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wkc5657
post Nov 4 2016, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 4 2016, 10:26 AM)
For example, they could have implemented some form of active cooling for the DSG gearbox to improve reliability but they didn't. A simple design say heatsink and fan that cost say usd150 to implement might have reduced the failure rate by half.

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DSG rarely have issues related to heat, this issue hits the Ford Powershift DCTs. The DSG was designed in mind to have the efficiency of a manual with the advantage of quicker gear shifts compared to the normal torque converter automatics. In my opinion, what plagued the DSG was because of the focus on high speed efficiency and acceleration, which in the german home market, their autobahns' slow lane is at least 140km/h.

Their market don't really need to deal much with traffic jams, so they left that out in the equation of the initial DQ200 unit (i presume) and designed it to be maintenance free without the need to change transmission fluids. Generally fine in home market, but when introduced to outside market starting in China, all hell breaks loose after just a handful of years of ownership. The frequent 1 2 3 gear shifts in a heavy traffic situation wares out the mechatronic module and coupled with the fact that consumers don't really understand that the dry clutch DSG actually houses a pair of clutch which wears of like what a manual gearbox does, a lot of complains were raised from the cost of maintenance.

Hopefully, the DSG's starting from the new Jetta and upcoming passat can last longer as they incorporated improvements to reliability and also shifting behaviour to be less harsh on slow crawl situations. I can't confirm it, but it could be the newly improved 7 speed wet clutch unit.

QUOTE(Drian @ Nov 4 2016, 10:26 AM)
The only Japanese that drives like a European car is Mazda. Mazda drives more European like but the NVH is below Japanese. I think if Mazda had a turbo option, improve their NVH, we might have a Japanese that exceed European in all aspects.
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All your stated points shall be fulfilled in the upcoming CX9. There are already a number of video reviews for this model. thumbup.gif

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wkc5657
post Nov 4 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Nov 4 2016, 03:29 PM)
The feel when sit inside same?
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Dash design, material, fitment and user interface aside, sat in a Q50 before, the seats are a revelation...never knew that seats can be designed to be THAT good to sit on. I have sat in C Class, 5 series, E Class, Camry, Mazda 6 & CX5, but none is more memorable than the short moment i sat on the Q50.

Volvo is also famous for comfy seats, but no change to try it before....so maybe Volvo can match or beat it....

QUOTE(djtong @ Nov 4 2016, 04:23 PM)
Also, as mentioned, people take much better care of their Merc than their Japanese runabout, yet the Japanese one is equally reliable, what does that tell you?
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My observation is that Japanese cars may not boast the best performance, but the key to reliability is easy serviceability. It is much easier to reach a part in the engine bay of a Japanese compared to a German.

Germans engineering are no doubt good, really good performance, very intricate and complex, so when brake down, really need expert to handle it....also, their fancy of using so MANY sensors!!!! Sometimes, it is the sensor module or wiring that rosak instead of the part that is being measured itself hmm.gif

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