I will not go for Proton. Not anymore. I always send my proton to SC.. never send to other place. Yet, still got lot of issue. I owned 2 Proton before. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Serena - looks like pakcik pakcik (Although I am actually a pakcik).

Mitsubishi Outlander - got no a/c at second and third row. Not suitable for family of 6 like mine.

Forturner - all good except the leather seat feel like waja only and the bumpy is obvious.

which leaves me kia sorento and hyundai santa fe.
since kia got after sales prob like mentioned in this thread... maybe i will go with santa fe. my budget is below 200k.
any advise?

can it fit 6 people?

yeah man..

fortuner is nice. better resale value. no head ache on after sales service. but seat like hilux, waja. bumpy a bit.

Santa fe is more comfortable. got paranomic view. hyundai after sales service - some say bad some say average. even during test drive pun i feel weird. radio suddenly turned on while reversing.