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Investment CITIZEN 2 @ OLD KLANG ROAD [OWNERS' THREAD], Tune Into A Lifestyle Of Your Own
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aaron1717
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May 30 2017, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ May 30 2017, 02:43 PM) How much are the agents making by selling a unit? Heard that the agents selling project gets different commission rates compared to selling subsales. new projects usually lower selling comm rates... depends on the agency one la... some get 3% but the agency take 20% leader take 20% then left half of the 3% for u... some the agency directly give 1.5% to the agent... the extra already filtered out by them without knowing how much the developer actually pay to the agency... haha
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aaron1717
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Jun 1 2017, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(PabloTH @ Jun 1 2017, 12:25 PM) How many % sold? All units under rm600k, shud sold out fast? too many AK projects can easily parang this project in term of pricing and sizes... only advantage this project have over them is freehold and slightly lower density.... i am not talking solely on OKR only... other locations as well....
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aaron1717
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Jun 1 2017, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(alextyw85 @ Jun 1 2017, 02:08 PM) My SA told me maintenance fee is expensive but after one year, we form the JMB, we can reduce to 0.20 if we like... I just diam diam there. I think citizen developer is his father one.... Don't know why, i have a strong feeling that the maintenance fee will be higher after JMB form up because tooooo much facilities and 2 big swimming pools, the water bill will be very high, that will reflect in our maintenance fee... By the way, my SA think buying house is like go pasar buy vege, keep asking me to place booking and said booking fee very cheap, RM 5 k only.... anyway.... from developer point of view.. the semi furnished items also have yet to be confirm... can be chg anytime during the pre launching period... they can chg even din inform the SA about it.... if you are worry and concern about this.... u can wait for official launching i.e adpl obtained and they are going to sign the SPA... that time u will have more concrete info on the semi furnished items.... look at the density level... its possible that u can re-negotiate on the maintenance fees upon JMB formed... its possible to reduce based on the 800++ units over three blocks.... its not impossible to make it lower... or the current maintenance could be consider quite high for density of 800 units....
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aaron1717
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Jun 2 2017, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(rainney @ Jun 1 2017, 10:53 PM) If you talk about price. Seldome developer can hantam AK. If you talk about location. With this price per sqft in old klang road. It's a good deal. haha... those who are here know OKR its a good deal... but vicinity to Mid Valley all those consist of kuchai lama, sri petalling, taman desa, OKR and bangsar etc..... so thats why i din focus solely on OKR... for 2-3 rooms freehold... the pricing is indeed very attractive no doubt... but what i meant is there are choices... hence why i din see this project hotly selling like other projects at the same range....
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aaron1717
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Jun 2 2017, 09:22 AM
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QUOTE(Kumamon @ Jun 2 2017, 09:12 AM) Yup, front door grille. I never expect the foyer comes with a door grille too at first, but then the SA told me so. the SA sold pinnacle sri petalling til sot jor i guess.... hahahahah
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aaron1717
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Jun 2 2017, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Win Win Inspiration @ Jun 2 2017, 09:59 AM) Wow. Meaning the 10% is fully rebated? this is very common in klang valley projects... especially those closing towards completion ones....
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aaron1717
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Jun 2 2017, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(whatwoot @ Jun 2 2017, 10:49 AM) may i know why are you guys concern so much about the price per sqf? didnt you guys know for a smaller unit has a higher price psf? and a larger unit has a lower price psf sometime when some projects offer ridiculously low price psf, but the smallest unit is over a thousand sqf, and also even when you manage to own the unit, you are just going to pay a much higher maintenance fees right? some of them still come from the time where price psf is the same for small or big units.... but the time has chg so much that nowadays smaller units have higher price psf.... and and larger units has always lower price psf but the total price is not everyone able to afford it anyway....
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aaron1717
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Jun 6 2017, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(PabloTH @ Jun 6 2017, 09:00 AM) the space between tower is so cramp. the length is just one basketball court size? my god it is so near that the opposite tower can hear wat u r doing in ur living room. i was initially attracted by d price point. after seeing d project, i m very put off. tis project is not suitable for own stay. small layout n minimal landscape makes it feel like a high class hostel. for 500k-600k, u r better off buying similar projects some other place. can help me list down which condo around this area...? new project? 500k-600k condo... with lower density? 3 rooms? freehold?
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aaron1717
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Jun 6 2017, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(wkkor @ Jun 6 2017, 12:10 PM) "some other place" may not means around the area...  then its not comparing apple to apple already... ppl who like OKR may not like 'some other place'....
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aaron1717
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Jun 7 2017, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(liew08 @ Jun 7 2017, 12:28 PM) Since its commercial tittle, but SA claimed developer will change the utilities rate to residential rate. So i need the advice from all daigor, is the statement trustable or not? i think gt alot of commercial title condos under HDA also manage to convert the rate to residential rate... in fact i saw one of the Sofo under commercial title also successfully converted to residential rate after VP for some time as they proven the whole building sofo using for residential....
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aaron1717
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Jun 7 2017, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(rainney @ Jun 7 2017, 03:21 PM) But they are alot buyer not trust that, billing rate can be convert to residence rate.... well.... as usual ma... when SA or developer mention something... mostly will only give them 50% of confidence it will happen... this was due to the bad records from the older generations and developers... what to do.... if its really important to u... u can choose to looks elsewhere... but then again... residential title... no one can sell so cheap already... because theres a limit to how many units they can build on a residential title land.... u can ask the owners of the grand kelana jaya... they successfully converted it...
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aaron1717
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Jun 7 2017, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE(noname2188 @ Jun 7 2017, 04:51 PM) D'Sands for low density? but psf will be higher than Citizen2  no perfect property one... when one developer at the same area... sell u cheaper... the density must go... compare to oug parklane... none of the projects here can fight them on density anyway haha....
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aaron1717
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Jun 8 2017, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(Galaxy_Nexus @ Jun 8 2017, 10:09 AM) location wise, kuchai east or citizen 2 better? kuchai east= future mrt around 500m walk citizen 2= petaling ktm nearby, around 500m walk as well. psqft almost the same around rm594+- both also not bad... kuchai east is freehold? kuchai east quite decent location in kuchai lama... not that inside those taman-taman... but the accessibility inside there very narrow.... and 500m to future mrt... at least its something that the mass will use than ktm.... but OKR have better accessbility to pj, puchong, sri petalling as their direct linkage to highway is more straightforward... jam... no need say... both also same jam... different is jam on wider road or jam on a narrower road... lol
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aaron1717
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Jun 8 2017, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 8 2017, 10:17 AM) kuchai east lishold and VERY near HTC. at least this Citizen got Bukit Gasing Hillview? or botak already? oh forgotten about the HTC.... location wise quite decent in kuchai lama ma... haha.... bukit gasing belum fully botak.... erm Mediterranean botak only....
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aaron1717
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Jun 8 2017, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Galaxy_Nexus @ Jun 8 2017, 10:20 AM) ya is freehold... both item almost identical. hmm.. have to survey around.. this will be my first invesment property so cannot kaput.. lol first property for own stay or investment? get those rumawip la... dont waste your chance to get a 300k and below 3 rooms condo....
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aaron1717
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Jun 8 2017, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Galaxy_Nexus @ Jun 8 2017, 10:36 AM) first property, for investment rumawip i dont think i entitle to get because me neither kl guy nor working in kl. lol haha good luck bro.... both not too bad project... just that depends on how u feel personally which project a tenant will prefer to stay....
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aaron1717
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Jun 8 2017, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(roadrunner0 @ Jun 8 2017, 10:58 AM) As far as i know, only TNB is allow, water bill cannot(which is wtf ) Normal cooking , can cost up to monthly bill of RM70-100. Dont say no warn you lor. haha yeah... depends on your family size also... but then ask yourself also... nowadays in kl city center radius of 10km... how many residential title projects are launching... and TNB utilities can be way expensive than water bill... give or take ba....
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aaron1717
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Jun 16 2017, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Kumamon @ Jun 16 2017, 10:22 AM) I did not hear of it too.. just bare unit rebate 3%, and 1% for sign SPA within a month. BTW, my bank told me Citizen 2 got the APDL already, can proceed the loan application  huh? gt adpl already? alot of buyers already proceed to loan application liao.... some banks even let them sign on Offer letter liao.... usually developer say july get ADPL, they might gt delay one....
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aaron1717
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Jun 20 2017, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(David_77 @ Jun 20 2017, 02:47 PM) If this is really from developer, damn low class act lor. Who is Cindy or Steven? And why their words are more trustworthy? Just because they are developer's staff? haha why developer staffs come in forum will be damn low class act? in fact i like them to be more active in forum.... last time Lowyat did the same for their BTP project.... too bad tak ada liao... now the riyang thread is very informative because of the developer staffs responses... hahaa
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aaron1717
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Jun 21 2017, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Property Focus @ Jun 20 2017, 09:05 PM) By what stretch of imagination do you say we accuse you and other prospects to be agents? It's written in plain English. We encourage genuine buyers (either current or prospective) to contact the developer as the right source to ask questions about our projects and to clarify any doubts or concerns, if any. Any baseless speculations or false remarks made with the intention of damaging the developer's or anyone else's reputation, for that matter, is uncalled for and shall not be tolerated by the developer here nor anywhere else. We hope this answers your questions. i think u guys take it too seriously here with the all lawsuits and counter measures etc.... haha... those who mentioned the misled stuffs is more to they are being misled with wrong information from sales gallery than feeding wrong info to public.... if everything is done correctly through the agents in the first place... those questions or statements wont appear here... and you right in the midst of stirring things further with lawsuit or any counter measures against meager keyboard warriors here....
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