hi gid,

relax, not all gsd have hip problem. which is why you need to go to reputable breeders. breeder that take the effort to have their breeding stock xray on hip and some even xray before coming to malaysia. i seen a lots of cripple gsd and it really sadden me. now in germany all gsd that are to be used to breeding must have xray on hip and also some endurance test. not only in gsd that the hip have problem in almost all big breeds have this hip problem including golden, lab and etc.

Hello,

Let me clear up a few misunderstanding about the breed. First of all one do not need to test the dna to check on the hip and elbow. You just need the pedigree papers and xray results. PEdigree paper is to check on the parentage on the offspring that might have hip problem or not. Xray result is to prove that the parent are not the one bringing the problem. In Malaysia, one could get the hip and elbow xray by the local vet. And I have one thing to ask your breeder, which big breed he can guarantee 100% confirm  will not have hip problem?? Unless he is god then i have no issues with that. hahaha. Even in dob and rott, they WILL have hip issues. The problem started in Malaysia when breeder are importing breeding stock with hip problem and nerve problem so this is the offspring you see now. So my suggestion is go for your dream and get a gsd. Before getting one, please do some research online or books or you can even PM me. I will be glad to help.
Hope this clear up some misunderstanding. Some people that do not know about the breed just simply give comment based on hearsay. This is what killing the breed. It is time for us to do our part.

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Added on June 10, 2009, 1:05 pm
Hi Reanne,

Glad to have someone that agree with me on dog panting. lol. I agree that working line do not have so much hip problem than showline. But not mainly because of the angulation and hind. Because working line are relatively new to Malaysia, their breeding stock are xray certified and the breeder are aware of the problem now. For showline past people, they are not equip with the experience or knowledge at that time. Now it is a totally different ball game. You will see many Germany SG or V rated in Malaysia showring today. Lots of commited gsd hobbyist trying to improve the breed. We can talk all day about gsd, I am obsessed. ahahahah. By the way, i just got my FOTO URMA book from Germany, i am going to read all day.

sonora_nr@yahoo.com
u can contact him on sable colour showline. he has a litter coming soon in July.

haha isaac, r i gonna get another GSD?
i'm gonna get 1 soon
will go n collect it at Penang. jz can't wait to c he running in my compound
here r some pics of him send by the seller. he's a real dog lover. n he has some female GSD from the same litter with mine for sale as well.
any1 interested can email me. i will let u knw further more. the quality should b great as the parent' dam n sire r imported from germany and australia. note* oni true dog lover the seller will sell his puppies to true dog lover. so don't waste ur time if u r not.

hey, y our thread no avatar?
anbody know how to upload avatar?

who is TS? u mean TS or TY_AA (the founder of this thread) ?

by the way, hv u choose the breed that u wan?
rottie or GSD?

great!! sure no 1 dare to step in your compound! haha...
but u will hv to headache by spaying one of them if get both diff breed of diff gender.
however if u get 2 male... scared domination problem will occur. let jz hope one of them will bow down.
if not....

Hi bil,

Thanks for explaining. Now that I know where you are coming from. Allow me to give you a few of my suggestions. Firstly, unless you are puppy mills, only you can make profit from breeding. for any responsible breeder, we all know we dont make money or even break even. We might as well find a part time job. let me break it down for you- the vet checks, extra food, vits, supplements, milkodog, vaccination, MKA registration and of course your time. This is not as easy as just mate the female and let her give birth and sell puppy. lots of thing need to be taken into consideration. Rule of thumb for breeding is to improve the gsd here in malaysia. we need to go forward and not backward. For example- is your female hip certified or is the parents hip certified? Does she show any nerve or temperement problem? What can she produce that will improve the gsd here? You cannot just find a neighbor or relatives gsd male and breed them. If the pups have hip problem or temperement problem, are you prepared to take back the pup and nurture for the rest of pups life? My advise is if you love gsd breed, then dont breed unless you have done your research. There is too much abandoned dogs in spca. Do you want your dogs to end up there? my puppies are like my kids so I really want to keep in contact with the future owners. There are lots of gsd in malaysia that have hip problem, please do not add to it.
Sorry guys, i had to pour out my thought. think twice.

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Added on July 16, 2009, 11:30 pmAnnouncement

There will be a GSD speciality show in Miri, Sarawak on 25th July. Over 60 entries and a famous judge will be there. Mr Heinz Sheerer from Von Huhnegrab Kennel will be here to judge. I will be there and was wondering if anyone else from here that will be there. Please PM me. We could meet up over there. Lots of germany rated dogs will be there.

Speedy timo,

I agree with you.

For my understand, if you have enought speace for you GSD to run (not on smooth surface) than they will become stronger.

Well the reasen i wan to ask for male GSD for my girl is,

1. maybe i want to try to have more puppy. and sale some of them.
2. even my girl is nor nice but i can say that her temperment is good. 80%

thats why i wanna try to ask ,  ofcause i am willing to share puppy but not to pay.

By the way i live in chares near tmn. segar

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Added on July 16, 2009, 3:54 pmgidlcin

are you still thinking to have GSD or Rott.

For my personal opinion, if this is your first dog.  You better choose  GDS

I use to have Rott quick some time.

On my hand i have 5 - 6 Rot before and all of them past away well two still here but not with me any more.......

The reaseon why recommand GDS for new own is ,

For rott you need to handle them real good well at least you won't be scare of them if they grown big.
Rott will try to scare the owner (maybe rough play)and if you seem scare they will try to lead you.

For GSD normally they won't play that rough and by theire size is not that strong so you won't have a bad feeling when they try to play rough with you.

One more thing is, GSD will bark more than Rott.

At the moment i own GSD and Goldlen .

Please forgive me if i have any thing wrong here.
This is only my personal feeling.

ah chuan,
take your time to find a pretty or handsome face puppy, but for my case i have seen like 20+ dogs and never like either. also take it as a blessing in disguise, somehow u still get a tour & gd food in penang, i've tried going like six places in a day just to see shit end up we import it from holland & indonesia. so wat do u think??? just go slow take your time it pays.

SG 30 2007 SCH2 KKL in Malaysia now.

You got good taste. lol. just got back from training with the dogs. they are superb. got to prepare for the show in sarawak. As for puppies, i dont think it will be any time soon to get pups from him. he just got into msia 2 months ago. he is 3+ now. I will try to see if I can find more pics of the dogs today.

Hi,

I dare not call myself a breeder la. Only did a few breeding before and that is it. have been interested and rear gsd for 11 years now. I dont breed unless it is to improve the breed. I got 1 male and 2 females now. Waiting to see what my own male (quell) can produce soon. as for the 3+ year old male (orlando), he just arrived so dont want to stress him out now. change of situation can be very stressful.  will update if got puppies. There is another top male in malaysia SG28 2008 Kiano but he is around 22 months now. pics below not taken today. cannot find a pics of him in handphone. lol.

ok, found a pics of my female ( holly) 3 + now. Pics taken when she was 2. The color is brighter and she is bigger now.

Hi,

yes, all my gsd are imported from germany itself. pricing is very subjective la. depending on quality. but shipping alone will set you back 4-6k RM. ok, as for the folklore of hip problem and people importing hip problem are all nonsense. this is just funny. i have heard this a thousand times and everytimes i ask them to show me a breeder using hip problem dogs to breed- these people cannot name any. the few breeder i know have their dogs hip scored and some even elbow scored. accident will have and a few might carry the problem but this is the same as all big breed. rott, danes, lab, golden and etc all face the same problem. if you love gsd then go right ahead and keep them. i dare say- no other breed come close.

gsd is not as fast as malinois
gsd is not as cute as pom
gsd is not as fierce as rott
gsd is not as defensive as central asian shepherd

but overall they are second in all classes. they are the complete and total package in dog.

you are welcome to visit me. but i am in JB. let me know in advance.

good news for the sarawak show. kiano was awarded SG 1 and the 3+ male was v2. Wonderful news for us. will update more pics once i get back to JB. i am in kl now doing some training.

for me i would prefer take from puppy cuz not oni the relationship, its the bond when v train them since small. n u will get more satisfaction if u r the one who successfully train your own dog. of cuz i mean by obedient training lah, not guarding training like biting sleeve all that. if i knw the way i oso prefer to gv my own dog the biting training lesson. hehe...
if obedience training, i can learn most of the trick and advice from youtube. for example, Eric Letendre from youtube or watch dog whisperer. lots of tips u can get.