Heng Dai,
Thank you for letting me know that Cheria has VP and sub sale units will be available for sale soon.
My opinion differs from yours when it comes to Cheria vs Dalia.

Both the Cheria Type B and Dalia have the same open plan layout with some small differences.
My architect wife prefers the Cheria Type B better e.g. (a) Cheria kitchen wall n window facing the house perimeter wall vs Dalia wet kitchen facing the inner house wall;(b) Cheria master bedroom has full frontal window view vs none in Dalia. Etc No doubt Dalia is bigger. Cheria Type B is slightly smaller. Although Dalia is bigger, the 3200sqft Cheria Type B is just nice and fine for a family of 4 like mine. However, due to Dalia bigger size, it will cost more for the monthly maintenance fees compared to Cheria Type B.

House size although is important , it is not everything. We have to look at the house features and functions also.

In my opinion, the main advantage of Cheria is that it comes with the Panasonic Puretech air filtration system build into the whole house. The Puretech integrated indoor air quality management system is important when we have to deal with the hazy season in Malaysia. This air filtration feature itself wins it all compared to other homes in Canal City/Klang Valley. More homes in Malaysia should be built with this feature as I don’t see the hazy season going away in Malaysia any time soon.
Cheria homes also come with the eco friendly and energy efficient ceiling heat insulation built in. Malaysia has a very hot weather especially during the day time. A good ceiling heat insulation is very important to keep the internal of the house cool. This feature itself can save the homeowner $$ in the long term for electricity usage to cool the house.

Heng Dai,
It dont think it is as easy as you described.
https://homes.panasonic.com/english/technologies/puretech/
First, we need to have an air tight home to start with.
Second, we to have those air ventilation duct connected to the main air filtration pump etc.
For the ceiling insulation, I dont think folks is going rip off their existing ceiling just to add another layer of insulation.

Cheria Type B or Dalia existing layout is already ideal for most people to start with. There is very little need to hack the internal wall or outer wall. Better spend the money on a better kitchen island, better kitchen cabinet etc instead.

Thanks. My wife and I are taking our time doing home shopping.(Not in a hurry)
In the meantime, we are enjoying the peace and calmness of the TA/ES lake and canals.

By having the kitchen wall facing the house perimeter wall, my architect wife thinks that it will make the duct for kitchen hood easier and shorter (no unsightly long duct in the kitchen)
e.g. It is easier to ventilate the heat, steam, odors, and smoke from cooking from inside to outside the house.
She likes to cooks e.g. oily Malaysian and Chinese food.
She also likes her kitchen bright. So by having extra a sidewall windows help with natural lighting.

I know it seems like a no big deal to u. No problem.

I still think that an integrated air filtering system is very important to deal with Malaysia hazy weather and more Malaysian homes should be built with one.
Some of your housing developer company CEOs and the housing minister have visited Panahome site in Japan recently to learn from Panasonic's experience in handling indoor air quality issue.
Article attached below.



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Heng Dai,
We have not made up our mind and we are still discussing and shopping (ES vs TA vs G257) while we wait for our rental lease at ES to expire.
To be honest, my wife really prefers TA Dalia and TA Cheria Type B better over ES semi-D.
My wife agrees with your points you mentioned earlier this year in this post about the advantages of Open Floor plan layout(living room, dining room, dry kitchen - all combined into one space).

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry90976123

Open floor plans allow for individual activities and social togetherness to coexist: family members can do their own activities, yet still communicate with one another. And for entertaining, the kitchen, dining room, and living room blend together into one large party space.

Advantages of Open Floor Plans
Better traffic flow. Without doors to open and close and no walls to hinder traffic, people can move through space unhindered.
Improved sociability and communication. Without walls, it's possible to talk to one another across rooms.
Shared light. Interior spaces that were once without windows now get natural light from windows in exterior walls.
Improved real estate value. In almost every instance, an open floor plan is highly desirable and increases your home's value to prospective buyers.
Easier to watch kids. Parents cooking in the kitchen or setting the dining room table can easily supervise children in the living room.
Layout flexibility. Without partition walls, it is easy to reconfigure furnishings and accessories to different room layouts.
Spaces can be multifunction. With open floor plans, a space can serve as a family room, a recreation room, a home office, or an entertainment space depending on your needs of the moment.

Regarding ES semi-D, we live in one right now. (renting)
Yes, it looks nice from the outside.
Living inside a ES semi-D is another story. e.g.no separate wet kitchen that my Malaysian wife prefers, roof leaks from the flat roof (high maintenance). wastage of space for double volume ceiling, balcony that we hardly use.
We also think that ES Semi D layout is not as open as TA Dalia or TA Cheria Type B. e.g. too many walls/separations on the ground floor etc.
These are just my personal opinion.

Happy New Year.
Not sure what's the difference between MBSA and MDKL.
I was there at the Bandar Rimbayu's The Brew House. It is quite a happening place. A good place to hang out with friends.
This is a new area (which is fine with me)but I see more and more shops are opening each day.
I also like dining at ES's Down to Bone - https://goo.gl/maps/vQJ2TZqU4BHbUjXE8.
Lot's of pork dish choices to choose from.
I also like some of the local food at some of the shops nearby e.g. https://www.malaymail.com/news/eat-drink/20...na-aman/1810569

For local mamak shop, I also like https://goo.gl/maps/GCBmdFdxQeGnFDQUA
Many more Chinese restaurants and other dining choices opening at this area.
Looking forward to it.

Yes. That is a good place to hang out and drink beer with friends too.
https://www.facebook.com/CornerRestaurantBar/

Thank you for sharing the news.
That's good.
Looking forward to it.
I prefer to live in new township and watch it grow slow and steady over time.

Thank you for the explanation.
I, being a ' Happy hour' type of person would definitely welcome more 'Happy hour' places to hang out in :-)

By the way, I was at the Astro Chinese New Year party bash at Bandar Rimbayu yesterday. I notice this area and the surrounding areas have a lot of local Chinese. .
I guess we have the 'right demographics' for the real estates market here as Chinese in general like to invest in real estate. :-)

Heng Dai,
Whether bad news or not it does not matter to me as I am still renting at ES.
You may be right about 70% came from Kota kemuning + puchong.

I was saying what I said earlier due to some conversations I have while I was at the Astro CNY Rimbayu party.
The small and medium business owner sitting next to me told me that he is waiting for his ES Grandezza house to be ready to move in.
He is upgrading to a nicer, bigger house from his current one somewhere in Puchong south.

While the another family's housewife told my wife that they are eagerly waiting for their semiD at TA Dalia to be ready to move in.
They are from nearby Jenjarom or Banting. Not sure if it is true or not, she says there are a lot of Chinese at Jenjarom/Banting.
She told my wife that there are quite a few are families are planning to move here(Canal city) since they want a fully gated and guarded neigbourhood.(safer environment) vs what they have at Jenjarom/Banting. They are also looking for a newer and bigger house.

So I guess, the developers here should do their market research e.g. to built bigger house to target these homeowners that want to upgrade.

Mr Wong,
Got 'Happy hour' at the Corner Bar's New Year Party or not?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=759148647938029

An alternative route to KLIA for my frequent flights back to Hong Kong is good.
The Elite highway can very congested sometimes.

Heng Dai,
Thank you for the feedback.
That's what the housewife told my wife too. Some/many wealthy local Chinese SMB businessmen from Jenjaram/Banting looking to purchase homes at Canal City. ES do the marketing but the housewife end up buying TA because of better value Hahaha

I will check out the Chinese temple. It's about 15-20km drive from Canal city. It looks like a big temple and very festive (from all the photos posted on Google)

For the one at Bukit Rimau, are you referring to this temple?
https://goo.gl/maps/Yz6kMiDgqcAgXMYg8

If yes, it is only 8km away from ES (not 20km).
It is close to the Chinese Taipei International school and I have been there before once.
I believe the temple has a sizable local Chinese and expatriate Taiwanese Chinese patrons.

No problem Heng Dai.
Btw, looks like there are CNY events at G257 this weekend and next weekend.
I may drop by to look see look see and 8. :-)
https://klfoodie.com/gamuda-land-cny-bazaar-2020/

Heng Dai,
Thanks for sharing the video.
I am not surprised that more and more Hong Kies are coming now that the National security law has passed by CCP.
Many people plan to leave HK.
Canal city(CC) is a 'hidden gem'. Sooner and later more of us will find out how 'affordable' this place is.
I agree with the guy in the video, for the same amount of money or add a bit more....one can buy a nice modern semi D or bungalow at CC vs a standard double-storey terrace house at the over speculated places like Desa Park city.

CC and KK also have a good sizable local Chinese and Taiwanese community, with many good international schools nearby and many 'pork/chu yok' restaurant choices available nearby at KK, Klang and within CC itself. A local chinese school is also under construction at TA on top of the existing one at KK.

After Covid 19 pandemic, more of my HK friends have dropped their plan to buy a luxury KLCC condo.
Now many of them will opt for a low density landed property instead. My friends are looking to buy into ES Grandezza and TA projects now.

Your comment regarding being the first owners in CanalCity vs late comers in Desapark make sense.
I prefer to start new and reaping future potential vs being 'second hand' in a mature Desapark.

I forward the video to my friends in Hong Kong.
A lot of them, and I mean a LOT of them are drooling saliva/ (cantonese - lau how suey).
They ask "How can such a nice, big, well landscaped, modern landed semi D and bungalow in a 'local Chinese area' with 4 reputable developers plus nearby International schools and a short drive away from KLIA selling at such an 'affordable' price."
For the same price of the TA or ES landed property, they can only buy an apartment with less than 500sqft in certain parts of HK.

Some will fly into to 'shop' once the travel restriction is lifted.
Foreigners can only buy house above 2 million ringgit in Selangor state. That means a certain type of TA and ES property only.
Hopefully, TA can launch more bungalows in the future in this area.
Now is a good time to buy. Interest rate being cut, HK currency peg being attacked by US, HK people leaving in droves due to the new National security law by CCP. Malaysia real estate sentiment very low and lots of attractive incentives. Buy low now and sell high in the future.

How about u? Still shopping around?
Trust me. Just close your eye and buy if you like the house before the HK migration waves/speculators arrive.
The HK guy youtube video already have 22k view in less than 10 days. I am sure some of his viewers in HK will be drooling like my friends Haha

This post has been edited by googmsftyhoo: Jul 8 2020, 10:25 PM