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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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_azam13
post Oct 25 2016, 11:38 PM

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Aiyo got discount, suddenly my tangan gatal wanna lump sum but too sked of rate hike though. Maybe will use some of my bullets.

Ironic that right now my work has something to do with market timing.
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post Oct 27 2016, 11:24 PM

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WTB > Shariah compliant India fund

FSM staff cum LYN lurker pls take note

Thanks
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post Oct 27 2016, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 27 2016, 11:26 PM)
You do know FSM is a DIY platform. Nobody is going to offer you a UT.
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To reply to your response, yes and yes. I wasn't being serious.

QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 27 2016, 11:28 PM)
You can use the fund selector to filter based on your criteria smile.gif

EDIT : Or if you want to have a personal touch to ask, kindly use the live help service in the FSM website or ask FSM CIS, they can provide you better details smile.gif
Yes, I did exactly that. Multiple times before. Dont worry, I wasn't being serious when I posted that.


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Well fxxk me, maybe its my fault for failing to highlight the not-being-serious tone in my previous post. Oh well.

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post Oct 27 2016, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 27 2016, 11:49 PM)
Sry kinda misunderstand your post laugh.gif

Do you know any such fund, may be you can suggest them to FSM for them to bring over? smile.gif

AFAIK shariah compliance UT dont share as much geographical focus and diversity as the conventional counterpart  innocent.gif

Not sure is it sensitive to ask, but is shariah compliance a vital criteria for your investment consideration? smile.gif

With the recent shariah EPF category, hopefully there are more shariah compliance investment opportunities emerge for those who seek them smile.gif
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1. Yes, I was looking. Im gonna keep looking smile.gif

2. You're correct, hence I'm a little bit frustrated that we dont have much choice in terms of diversification. But now we have Shariah APAC, China, Developed Market and Precious Metal so I think thats a good start. Another category I would appreciate is Shariah High Yield (Bonds).

3. Nah its not at all a sensitive topic to me. And yes I make sure all my funds are shariah compliant. I also pay zakat (islamic version of tax) annually on my FSM profit and holdings. If the profit exceeds a certain amount I have to pay 2.5% of the profit.

4. Yes thanks EPF rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 27 2016, 11:55 PM)
lol...need to pardon us because you are no regular here. Be here long enough and you will level up to the point whatever you say will be considered with a pinch of salt.
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No worries. I understand.

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post Oct 28 2016, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 28 2016, 11:32 PM)
But is the percentage quoted in the link means the holding percentage (which doesnt make sense since they are quite large and easily over 200% in total)?

That is the part I dont really understand about Percentage Of Issued Shares, how does this make it relative to the percent of holding?

Or the percentage means the amount of shares EPF hold in that particular holding?
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Hi, it means if the company has issued 1,000,000 shares to date and EPF holds 50% of the issued shares, it means EPF has 500,000 shares and owns 50% of the company. Hope that is clear enough.

To add some colors to this: EPF might not hold these shares directly, but through external fund managers instead. EPF would have some of their money "outsourced" to external fund managers (think Aberdeen Asset, CIMB Principal Asset, Kenanga, RHB, Eastspring etc) for them to invest on behalf of EPF. For example, when those external fund managers buy Maybank stock in their portfolio managed for EPF, its also counted as EPF's shareholding.

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post Oct 29 2016, 12:11 AM

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I have to put this out here...

Actually I disagree with not investing in Malaysia just because EPF has already invested in it..

Actually EPF as savvy investors, have already done diversification on their part themselves. They invest in truckloads of different asset classes locally AND overseas to get their diversification right. They have a dedicated team just to model the asset allocation strategy.

So, to my mind, when you invest your own money, you can treat your EPF investment as "non-existent", that is you still can invest in Malaysia if you think that would give your UT portfolio optimal risk-return characteristics without paying any mind to what EPF is doing.

My 2 cents.

Disclaimer: I'm not EPF employee.

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post Oct 29 2016, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Oct 29 2016, 12:33 AM)
holistically.. er.. shouldn't one take into account of one's TOTAL assets (real la, not doodads)?
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even EPF can be channeled to foreign focused mutual funds again now + hopefully self-directed stock purchases inn future again too tongue.gif

if one' cash in bank/flexi already in MYR + EPF also bulk MYR assets, shouldn't one at least look @ developed markets? at the very least?
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sailang all Malaysia's the best/boleh coz EPF is 100% trustworthy forever and ever & having everything tied to MY boleh?

dunno - maybe i'm just a worry wart  notworthy.gif
0.1 cent's thought
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Sure, total assets, but since that part of the asset is already diversified enough for me, so I dont worry about it. I should worry about the part I'm managing myself. Im not sure if this makes sense to anyone, but hopefully it does? Haha.

But it also makes sense if your other pockets are heavy in MYR assets. Then for sure I would encourage more overseas UTF biggrin.gif

"sailang all Malaysia's the best/boleh coz EPF is 100% trustworthy forever and ever & having everything tied to MY boleh?"

I actually dont understand the above.
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post Oct 29 2016, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 29 2016, 11:31 PM)
These lo, is there any bug eh?  sweat.gif

Don't tell me it has the same limitation of 10 funds in a portfolio like morningstar, more than that it goes hairwayer  (how does it spell dy?) ?  sweat.gif
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post Nov 3 2016, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Nov 3 2016, 11:53 PM)
This is actually quite a good fund smile.gif

Unfortunately, similar to pubic mutual, you got to go to their fund house agent and pay 6% sales charge  cry.gif
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really difficult for me to resist from chuckling when "penny stock" and "pubic mutual" are mentioned in the same post... tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2016, 08:36 PM

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Will topup on the day of election next week. If go down some more after POTUS is decided, will topup again. yay
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post Nov 4 2016, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 4 2016, 09:34 PM)
Me too......was planning to switch some bond funds to cmf next week.......standby some additional bullets for China; india & global tech......but looking at the chart....it is still not at a good discount yet.
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thats why dont put all bullets in yet.. im also saving some bullets for rate hike later
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post Nov 4 2016, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 4 2016, 10:10 PM)
Confirm rate hike huh?
Suddenly no hike how? Or after election only hmm.gif
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if no hike in december then even better, i dont have to spend bullets to average down my cost/buy on weakness... (ofc thats based on d assumption that when US hikes rate, Asia markets will go down)
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post Nov 6 2016, 10:16 PM

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For bond funds, you have to form some sort of opinion on how the interest rates will move over the horizon of your investment. If you think the economy is not going to be good next year and Malaysia will have some easing (and even easing does not necessarily mean interest rate cut. It could be SRR cut or other forms of monetary policy tools which won't cause bonds to rally), then it should perform.
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post Nov 8 2016, 09:30 PM

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my prediction points to hillary.. but hoping that im wrong so i can topup when market have a selloff. lol
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post Nov 10 2016, 08:18 PM

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it seems like people learned from brexit.. they failed to join in at the bottom then missed out when market rallied shortly afterwards.. this time around they have been prepared.. if trump wins, stock market selloff then laju2 go in... they have been waiting for that opportunity. ample liquidity in the market.
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post Nov 11 2016, 11:00 PM

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already bought some funds in USD back then so i guess im partially hedged.. XD
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post Nov 11 2016, 11:11 PM

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rhb islamic bond dropped so much today.. sad cry.gif
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post Nov 11 2016, 11:40 PM

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i can only find anita for yesterday. dropped 0.08%. still a lot. but for today rhb islamic bond dropped 0.26%.

sos: bloomberg (ticker: aveasnb and rhbibnd)
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post Nov 12 2016, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 12 2016, 06:51 AM)
I was planning to lump sum my entire fds into Anita today. what do you both think? should I hold or just go for it?

also kl123. where did you vetted info Anita from 0.24

I know with equities you may wish it goes down a little based on the buy low sell cheap but does it apply on Bond funds?
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There's a trick I learnt from Adam Khoo, I think it can be applied to both equity and bond. If you don't know whether its going up or down, don't go in yet. Wait until the price reverse then go in. Because if you go in now, it might go down some more. The reverse might be a false signal and it will go down some more after that but at least if its a true reversal then you benefit. This is more effective for bonds rather than equities because bonds like RHB Islamic and Anita are one-way movement most of the time, so if it starts to move up, most likely that it will continue moving up (meaning chances for it to be a true reversal is high).


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post Nov 14 2016, 09:28 PM

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my libra is negative lol. just recently placed for parking. first time seeing my bond fund go negative. my personal mantra
"sooner or later they will realise EM still attractive and come back, sooner or later they will realise EM still attractive and come back.."

repeat 100x and move on XD

although kinda easy for me to say coz my USD fund straight away go from negative to positive overnight..literally. lol

despite that, i need more exposure in developed market. currently have none

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