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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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puchongite
post Oct 28 2016, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 28 2016, 03:39 PM)
Clinton VS Trump – Does It Really Matter?
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...1-Oct-16--11993

Do U.S. elections affect global markets?
https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/artic...-markets--11994
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FSM (first article) seems to think the US market upside is little. Just concentrate on Asia and EM wor ....
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post Oct 28 2016, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Oct 28 2016, 03:57 PM)
Dunno how many times I have to repeat this...

When US sneezes, Asia will have fever
When US have fever, Asia will get a stroke

This is based on my observation and experience lar... tongue.gif
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Okay lar agree with you ! rclxms.gif
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post Oct 28 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Oct 28 2016, 04:51 PM)
Walao, everyone is making a move today. Then I also have to share my "trading" info from this morning.  biggrin.gif

1.  Switched the excess profits from Ponzi 2 into CIMB Global Titans (top up).
2.  Switched from TA Dana Afif into TA Global Technology and TA European Equity Funds (buying back these 2 new unit trusts as part of my portfolio)
3.  Bought Eastspring Bond Fund (to switch later into Eastspring Global Leaders Fund).
4.  Topped up RHB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust and RHB Asian Income Fund.
5.  Bought RHB Asian Total Return Fund (buying back this new fund as part of my portfolio).

That's it folks. My 'minor' transactions for today.    tongue.gif
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Looks like avoiding storm in Asian and go to US and Europe for holiday.
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post Oct 28 2016, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 28 2016, 05:43 PM)
KR4ZY meh? Ver 1 to 16?

I want the maggi mee ™ version! Cepat dimasak, sedan dimakan!

Xuzen
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Yeah maggi mee version is :-

Ask dumb questions here and get scolding by the Sifus here. devil.gif
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post Oct 29 2016, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(_azam13 @ Oct 29 2016, 01:15 AM)
Sure, total assets, but since that part of the asset is already diversified enough for me, so I dont worry about it. I should worry about the part I'm managing myself. Im not sure if this makes sense to anyone, but hopefully it does? Haha.

But it also makes sense if your other pockets are heavy in MYR assets. Then for sure I would encourage more overseas  UTF biggrin.gif

"sailang all Malaysia's the best/boleh coz EPF is 100% trustworthy forever and ever & having everything tied to MY boleh?"

I actually dont understand the above.
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You two are talking about two different things.

You are talking about the statement ( don't know who said it ) that "don't invest in Malaysia as Epf already investing in it"

Vs

"Lets go all out invest in Malaysia as EPF is 100% trustworthy".

Actually I tend to think that EPF invest in Malaysia one of the reason is because it has stabilizing effect on Malaysian stock market. Investing in foreign funds is like tell people you have higher faith in foreign funds than the local ones. And an institution as EPF must take that into consideration.


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post Oct 29 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 29 2016, 04:04 PM)
I am only 5 mins away.. why no invite me..  cry.gif
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They think you are sifu level already, so luncheon and talk not relevant. bangwall.gif
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post Oct 29 2016, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 29 2016, 04:45 PM)
Not sifu also... still alot of things to learn for you all  notworthy.gif
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Joke aside, this makan thing is sponsored by some people who will have vested interested in promoting their funds. You think it is still something useful ? Will they really stay neutral and objective ?
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post Oct 29 2016, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 29 2016, 04:28 PM)
See previous price before distribution? I am betting it will will go back to previous level few months down the road. Well that's just my own judgement.

Let's bet ok? In one year time it will go back to before distribution price. Ya ya, distribution, dividend all not important.  But let's see one year later.
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5 units gets one unit, and a few months later price grow back to original, that will be 20% growth, right ? If like that better sai lang liow !
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post Oct 29 2016, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 29 2016, 06:43 PM)
Nope. Both gain 20%. However I still think buying now could still be cheaper if say buy next month. Of course vice versa can happen.

However, let's not derail the thread and start a war about NAV. smile.gif
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It is just reading the crystal ball lar. You better quickly qualify it or else we will have suffer another round of maths lesson from sifu xuzen.
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post Oct 29 2016, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 29 2016, 05:40 PM)
The NAV for TAGTF on 10/10/2016 is MYR 0.7335 per unit. The unit split happened on 11/10/2016. The NAV for TAGTF on 11/10/2016 that is post unit split became MYR 0.6092

If one has 10,000 units originally his NAV would be 10,000 x 0.7335 = MYR 7,335.00 ====> (A)

Due to unit split of 1 units per 5, he will get 10,000/5 = 2,000 new units. The total units then became 10,000 + 2,000 = 12,000 units.

The new NAV becomes 12,000 x 0.6092 = MYR 7,310.40.====> (B)

Now take a look at the NAV (A) & (B). From this do you see that the actual value is lebih-kurang sama aje! Although you will say the NAV has dropped, but for someone who is actually holding the unit prior to the units split; it does not seem that way.

Hence, do not be deluded that it is cheap or otherwise. The NAV drop is engineered by the UTMC, it is not due to actual drop in its underlying asset price. In another word, the drop in NAV is a manipulation by the UTF management company.

Xuzen

p/s (IMPORTANT NOTE): Actual cheap or otherwise is not determine by the NAV face value per se. Look to its underlying asset to determine. In the absence of knowing the actual underlying asset, then look at the fund benchmark for guidance.
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Haha it is a day of maths.

I would like to show my calculation too.

Actually 5 units get 1 unit is equivalent to (1 + 1/5)= 1.2 times increase in units.

If original nav is .7335, then new nav is .7335/1.2 = .61125.

But the price became .6092, there was indeed a drop of nav on that day.
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post Oct 30 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 29 2016, 11:52 PM)
I think the program can only calculate max 10 funds before it goes haywire laugh.gif

Removing TA Europe, this is 5 years performance

Volatility 7.03%  rclxms.gif

positive returns 47/60 months, 78.33%
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Interesting. Did your combination allows you to balance out each other individual funds's higher volatility and achieve smaller overall volatility ?

Please reveal your portfolio and % allocation.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Oct 30 2016, 06:54 PM
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post Oct 31 2016, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Oct 31 2016, 12:59 AM)

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Most of the funds are there but negligible overall impact if look at it long term ( 5 year ).

I just did a port which consists of KGF, Ponzi 2.0 and CIMB global titan in equal split, the result comes out almost the same for 5 year.
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post Oct 31 2016, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 31 2016, 09:28 AM)
Good morning everyone! How's everyone doing this week? Looking forward to the next top up? I know I am
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If the market continues to slide, this will just prove sifu Ramjade's theory ( that "it is a good time top up when market goes down" ) isn't a really good one. LOL.

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post Oct 31 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 31 2016, 10:15 AM)
if one is "happy", contented with 5 yrs data and believes that history can repeat itself....
at portfolio volatility at 10, 78% of the times making positive returns, 5 yrs ROIs is 135%
just put 1k each now at each of this fund
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Haha many qualifying conditions there .....

Under normal circumstance history should repeat itself.

But not necessary if there is a lou sai situation. sweat.gif
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post Oct 31 2016, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 31 2016, 10:25 AM)
from the postings of forummers last few days using the Iportfolio to "play about with 5 yrs data....
it seems that "ALL" are making positives returns in the last 5 years...
is the last 5 years Goldilocks years??
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That's what I noticed too.

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post Oct 31 2016, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Oct 31 2016, 05:46 PM)
Before US election, to top up

Manulife US, Titan and TA Global.

U guys not top up these funds?
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There is a chart here :-

user posted image

Look at the pre and post. Anybody is able to see something please come forward and help me.

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post Nov 1 2016, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 1 2016, 12:51 PM)
LOL LOL LOL! My fanboi!  icon_rolleyes.gif

Lu ingat lu Moderator kah?

Xuzen
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Sifu Xuzen tell us what would you do to US presidential election.

We have listened too much from Ramjade already. I want to listen to your instant noodle version.
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post Nov 1 2016, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Nov 1 2016, 02:13 PM)
WOI! apa lagi lu mau tunggu...
EPF targets 10% minimum internal rate of return
http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...rate-of-return/
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That's just a fraction of what EPF invested into.

Furthermore those projects are easy money for the project owners. The fat profit they make are from the consumers of tolls and utilities.
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post Nov 1 2016, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 1 2016, 02:32 PM)
I'll go take a walk and switch on Fox and watch Walking Dead S1 to S7. What will you do?

Xuzen
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Sigh, I don't know when I can reach that level of Zen. blink.gif
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post Nov 1 2016, 03:47 PM

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Found this article, which says us presidential elections have positive impact on asian stock market :-

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-presiden...?IR=T&r=US&IR=T

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