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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) Se7en, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Oct 15 2016, 08:16 AM

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One of the first to sign in ! whistling.gif

Huat ah ..................... rclxm9.gif

Not sure if I will still be a regular here ? rclxs0.gif

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post Oct 15 2016, 08:52 AM

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After using CIMB and MBB portal to purchase the FP, CIMB set-up is better with more info. MBB can only buy AS1M. Only way to see if the purchase is successful or not is to see if dough is returned or not in MBB. CIMB have a "Pending" status that we can see. Can change to "reject" if not successful. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 15 2016, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 15 2016, 01:24 PM)
I will miss u if u r not here  tongue.gif
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Other people can provide more excitement on their top up's !! brows.gif

QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 15 2016, 01:48 PM)
For me, very glad that I came across this forum some 2 years ago. I got some in AS1M and ASM, basically just the opening day deposit amounts. Heard about the difficulty in adding to the accounts, no more funds for non bumi, etc. Stopped there.  bangwall.gif

Learning from experiences here, including Guy288 alerting me when he managed to buy big amounts, I managed to sikit sikit lama jadi bukit kecil. Ha. Compared to FD, now my workers (my money) are working twice as hard. Glad to see the extra $$$ on dividends days. Ha.  rclxm9.gif

Disappointment and tough at times, but worth the initial sacrifices in time, petrol, patience.  rclxms.gif

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Ya, did learn from here to get the FP. But will stop once it reach certain targets. Unless like Auntie keeps on changing targets. devil.gif
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post Oct 15 2016, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 15 2016, 03:57 PM)
Target kept changing as Fd matured at that time and unattractive rates being offered by banks.
If I don't move to ASX FP, too much will sit in the FD with lower %. 2% different is a LOT to me esp with more rate cuts in upcoming Nov.
As long as ASX FP dividend >FD, I'll be happy to let it hibernate here forever.
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Auntie has so much faith in the FP ! thumbsup.gif

I in one still would diversify in FD, UT, retail bond (trying to get in), stocks etc. Even UT has various managed by different entity. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 15 2016, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 15 2016, 05:49 PM)
Be at  icon_rolleyes.gif  with your own decisions.
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post Oct 18 2016, 06:36 PM

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Today top up 5 figures of ASW and 1k of AS1M. I think could have got more of AS1M as I asked to get 1k only. Reason is to get the book updated as well.

The online MBB purchase of AS1M last Friday was successful. One ticket for the LOL Campaign ! rclxms.gif
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post Oct 19 2016, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Oct 18 2016, 06:43 PM)
you top up using new form?

assume u did at Maybank?

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Yes, it is so called new form. Did not look at it and compared with the old form. Just fill in those required info like name, ic, asnb id etc. Did get a blank copy but one forummer already uploaded it here. biggrin.gif

U can send the old stacks for recycle ! devil.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 08:57 AM

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Yesterday in Affin. They have 2 promo tied in with UT.

One is the FD 6 mth 3.88% with buying of 2k minimum of UT. Can buy ASNB FP and counted in.

The other one is buying 100k, 200k etc UT with gifts. BUT FP not included. Yes, FP NOT counted. Only VP allowed. This was shown clearly in the brochure that I have seen. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 19 2016, 09:24 AM)
If one tries his/ her BEST, it's better to place 6mths in ASX FP instead of FD. I did it for my 3-6mths placement and fortunately able to continue to let it hibernate inside.
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I, for one, still "diversify" into FD and others. I still treat FP as UT. We all hope everything is OK and no issues. I would not put all my eggs in one basket.

I still intend to keep more in FD, much more, than in the FP. biggrin.gif

Other, don't throw stones at me ! devil.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Oct 19 2016, 11:30 AM)
Mind sharing why if it is not too personal? PM me?

ASX VP is different from ASX FP. Maybe from your disappointing experience with ASX VP?

Just want to learn from others. Maybe I do not see things the same way and some people see things at different angle.

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The ASG issue does not made me to have that opinion. It is a UT with price up and down. I still treat FP as a UT though with a unique twist.

How about u ? FD and FP, in what proportions ? FP more than FD ? hmm.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(kpfun @ Oct 19 2016, 11:18 AM)
Why would they do that? Indeed, the one who always sapu the limited available units, will get the stones.
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post Oct 19 2016, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 19 2016, 12:28 PM)
Majority will  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  as they will have more opportunities to top up.
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Well, until the time when I learn from u to change my target ! devil.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 19 2016, 12:32 PM)
You're one of the luckiest person here who has been able to get units every time you drop by banks.
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Not true. As the saying goes, people only see the success but never see the sweat behinds it. devil.gif

Actually out of the limited number of times I tried, twice cannot get a single units. That is why I learned from auntie that perseverance pays ! thumbup.gif

But those days that I got unit, I only take one try in the banks. Never get 2 queue numbers at any one time in the same bank. biggrin.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 19 2016, 01:16 PM)
Can see you value the 2% extra return from  ASX over FDs, much more than bgoat.
Likely you would have more in ASX compared to FD, ratio 70:30?
?ASX still has the connotation of  "UT risk" to bgoat, that's why rather go for FD get 2% lesser, methinks.
bgoat's FD:ASX ratio 80:20?

Personally i  believe this ASX is just as save as FDs. i would very much like that 2% extra,
as every 1M is extra RM20k over FDs, trouble is my FDs will go till 2018,2019.
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My ratio is even higher than u quoted.

How about u ? ASX:FD 80:20 ?

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post Oct 19 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Oct 19 2016, 01:23 PM)
Wow!! even higher? every 1M rugi 20k woh........

at the moment 40:60, i dont mind push in more later, if i dont get 4.7% again.
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I don't look at it as 1M lose 20k. It is the risk that each portfolio carries that is important. Just like some UT has gain >10%, we cannot say if I have all in that one, I will have gained 10-6=4% more than in FP ?

I am now trying to see if can get retail bonds of at least 5.5% or >6% yield.
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QUOTE(twinkle5129 @ Oct 19 2016, 01:53 PM)
At Affin, no need Q number. Just 'park' yourself there for 1 hour and the kind staff will try whenever he's free. I can  sit there, read newspaper and wait for him to signal me. It's better than going home and re try 2-3x/day. He'll try to 'sapu' whatever was available until I run out of $$.
At this moment that TOTAL of extra 2% from 3 passbooks are enough to support my whole year expanses without touching my other savings and investment.  blush.gif Luckily, there is no need to withdraw any of them for many years to come.
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Ya, yesterday in Affin, initially first try, cannot get anything. Then the counter staff asked me to take a seat. About 20 minutes later, he called me and got the units.

Other times, the staff would keep trying, when there is no customer around. He himself said, no customer, so can keep trying for u. biggrin.gif
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By the way, I have not exhausted the dough yet. So learned from sifu here to put the dough in MBB GIA-i, terminate on the day it is needed, and go to the bank. So still have small amt left and will be trying on some days of the week.

Then early next mth, will allocate small portion from matured FD to top up to my target size in FP. After that brows.gif , if I do change my target size, then will top up, if not, let it hibernate as the saying goes !! cool2.gif

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Oct 19 2016, 02:58 PM)
True also la, stocks can be quite time consuming especially for day traders. I was more thinking of rebalancing strategy and hence I ask like that. Maybe can replenish the spent ASx when you take profit from UT

I find your allocation quite different from how people here seems to think. From what I gather from the limited time I spent on this thread the others seem to think ASx FP is of no/low risk compared to UT which is of higher risk.

Upon retirement one usually want more stable returns and limited downside risk so that they don't end up with insufficient retirement funds. So generally the personal finance advice is for retirees to move their UT or stocks portfolio into fixed income to avoid excessive downside risk

Of course different story if you have lots of dough and the UT is meant as inheritance to the kids and therefore can take a long term view.

Hope you don't find this unsolicited advice too offensive. Just sharing my observation.
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Quote from above:

From what I gather from the limited time I spent on this thread the others seem to think ASx FP is of no/low risk compared to UT which is of higher risk.


That is what I differs from majority of the thinking here. I do think there is some risk here. But it is up to the individual to look at the risk that suits him/her. No one's thinking is alike. That is why we have a FD thread and FSM one. tongue.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Oct 19 2016, 03:58 PM)
I hold your view too... But obviously we are the minorities
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Haha, at least I am not the extremist. Either for or against FD/FP. I do have the FP (not small amt). biggrin.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Oct 19 2016, 04:10 PM)
Isn`t that the risk should be lower than stock market,forex,  variable unit trust?

The safer one is FD ..am i right?
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