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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) Se7en, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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Ramjade
post Dec 6 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 6 2016, 03:50 PM)
Wat I meant was wat makes u want to invest in S'pore, is it a push or pull factor
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With SG, you are able to have access to US market/international at cheaper price. They are the financial hub of South East Asia. Even if RM don't depreciate, it's already in my book to remove as much money as possible from Malaysia.
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post Dec 6 2016, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Dec 6 2016, 06:44 PM)
I wish to, but very difficult for me to walk to bank during office hours.. so far only manage to try few days since past month but still no luck to top up any.. n I only have ASM n ASW2020..
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You can now look into affin hwang select bond fund via FSM. Returns are comparable with ASX FP.
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post Dec 6 2016, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(mamamia @ Dec 6 2016, 11:17 PM)
Can u advise more details on this? Any minimum A investment? Can withdraw anytime without charges? Is it same as PRS? I've PRS with affin Hwang
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See here
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...d-MYR-MYHWSBOND

To buy min RM1k.
To topup min RM100.

Is not as liquid as ASX FP as you need to wait a few days.
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post Dec 9 2016, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(ericongq @ Dec 8 2016, 07:56 PM)
just a quick question. im new to this asbn thing sory >.<.

Is it worth to get a personal loan for 5 years and invest in SKIM AMANAH SAHAM BUMIPUTERA? cause the loan rate for gov servant is quite low smile.gif
if yes, whats the maximum can put in biggrin.gif
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Keep in mind, it might cause you to have a hard time to take a house/car loan in the future with this extra loan. If you are not buying new house/car, then go ahead.
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post Dec 10 2016, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 10 2016, 01:16 AM)
Went to BSN for some facts finding.. and this is what i gathered..

suppose they can really give 6%/year div, the management fee -5% will set you back for only 1% first year and 6% second year (if u are lucky), hence average only 3.5%/year for 2 years time frame, why bothered ASN when u can get PIDM coverage with FD?

was told one ASN3 product was issued years back is selling currently for only RM1.01 which is like negative performance after minus inflation. Any savvy investor could perform better than their fund managers.

Also, their portfolios only focus on solely Msia stocks with high composition of financial markets, if investors really want stock exposure in RM, they can just buy maybank and pbb stocks, again why bother to go for ASN? If you were to risk your capital, why dont u just go buy some reits stocks instead.

Based on these facts, if you want diversification, this is definitely not an instrument to go for, it doesn't invest in bond, it doesnt invest in foreign exchange. It's just like buying the KLSE index.

but seeing the on going popularity of this thread, i suspect i might missed out something on the reasons why so many happily going for it.
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Bro, who asked you to look at ASN/ASG/ASN3. doh.gif
Look at ASW2020, ASM, AS1M la. All fixed priced (RM1/unit). No service charge of 5.5%. Eg, you pay RM10k, you get 10k units.
The above 3 will give you clean/nett income of 6.x% p.a cool2.gif

Risk to capital? Mana ada? Buy and sell at RM1/unit. Tell me how you are going to lose money when you buy and sell at RM1/unit without those pesky upfront service charge? biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Dec 10 2016, 07:47 AM
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post Dec 11 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Dec 11 2016, 10:19 AM)
the lady at counter said all those not available, probably judging from my skin color.
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Don't go BSN/Aliance etc. Go for Cimb/Maybank/RHB/Affin/Post Office (recommend either Affin or Maybank). Cimb always "system down".

That's the standard reply any where. Need to tell them one can open if got people withdraw.

Look at first page for best place to open. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 12 2016, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Dec 12 2016, 11:09 AM)
Gud opportunities for Selangor folks to top up on Tue, 13/12
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Why is that so? Tuesday still public holiday la. Banks open meh?
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post Dec 12 2016, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Dec 12 2016, 03:12 PM)
Who said Tuesday public holiday..
Only Selangor & Kelantan
Others places needs to work..
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Yeah. Only selangor and kelantan. He said got chance for selangor people. If public holiday in selangor, I am sure banks will still be close.
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post Dec 13 2016, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Dec 13 2016, 05:03 PM)
top up up to max RM5000 at bank and RM500 at POS no need to get supervisor override
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No such thing. I topped up more than that before at banks.

QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Dec 13 2016, 02:27 PM)
I mean just to purposely go there take number wait few hrs and ask got units available. Who got time to do that 6 times lol unless retire uncle nothing to do.

How to plan? Got money but the FP funds always full. End up buy ASG
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Avoid ASG at all cost. If you buy ASG already, once KLSE goes up, faster sell and buy the fixed price funds. ASG incur a 5.5% service charge while ASX FP have 0% SC.
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post Dec 13 2016, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Dec 13 2016, 08:29 PM)
I have some ASG bought few years ago. not sure what to do with them.
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You can hold on to them. When KLSE appreciate, sell quickly.
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post Dec 16 2016, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(ivzh @ Dec 16 2016, 01:32 PM)
guys can we withdraw ansb without the passbook?
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No. Topup csn be done without book but not withdrawal.
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post Dec 17 2016, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Kamina51 @ Dec 17 2016, 02:00 AM)
Yo guys Im quite new to this whole thing. What does top up mean? Interesting in opening my own account but I wanna know a few lingo and terms first haha. tongue.gif
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Topup = add more units into your ASX FP.
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post Dec 18 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(kingdomdemon @ Dec 18 2016, 12:11 PM)
with the current inflation rate, is ASB still the best choice for investment or it is yet to compare with the current inflation rate?
I saw some people moving into stocks and other high risk investment recently
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For now I think inflation>ASB return thanks to you know who... vmad.gif ranting.gif Don't trust official inflation rate. Use nasi lemak index to gauge.
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post Dec 19 2016, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(filage @ Dec 19 2016, 09:35 AM)
Anybody try Ambank already? Their system ready?
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The only new agent I recommend is Affin. Stay away from Alliance, BSN and most likely Ambank. They will all tell you we deal with ASG/ASN3 only.
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post Dec 20 2016, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Dec 20 2016, 12:58 PM)
Hi sifu. Let say if I got 20k in maybank from now and next yr when unit open I want put 20k to asn I can do in maybank branch right and direct transfer from my account?

If go amanah branch is it also able direct or I need take out money ? Hold 20k is not safe. But I heard go amanah do got free gift hehe
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WHy not try small amount overtime. No need to one shot RM20k. Say try RM5k every month.

QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Dec 20 2016, 01:17 PM)
What is relevant form? I also found out can do m2u no need go counter at all! Do u know that?
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M2U only for AS1M and charge you RM1.06 regardless successful or not.
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post Dec 20 2016, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(ic no 851025071234 @ Dec 20 2016, 03:39 PM)
U mean m2u is not guarantee have? Idiot. I thought got only they sell. Cos can sometimes see they put what fund is full.
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Nothing is guaranteed. Even counter also not guaranteed. Only ASNB counter can see real time.
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post Dec 22 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Dec 22 2016, 01:50 PM)
No two financial crises are the same. Back in 1997/1998, the economy quickly recover due to the still strong US economy. In 2008/2009, the global economy rode on the massive fiscal stimulus injected by China. Now? China is moderating, and Europe is still in doldrums. Higher interest rate in the US would precipitate outflows of capital in the emerging market, Malaysia included.

There's no strong basis to suggest there's a political interference in the governance of PNB. Low crude oil price is a global phenomenon. Ringgit is depreciating. KLCI has dropped for three consecutive years. And PNB has to generate RM9/10 billion a year just to pay dividend for ASB. That's close to RM1 billion a month.

The income comes from only two source: 1. Trading income. 2. Dividend income. Dividends from companies are lower because their profits are lower, due to slowing economic growth. And trading income. When the stock market is stagnating or going down. Tell me, is it easy to generate money?
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Looks like good times are over. sad.gif
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post Dec 22 2016, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(opticc @ Dec 22 2016, 02:24 PM)
DEAD!!!!!!!!!! run fast, true or not?
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Not true yet. Let's await ASW2020, ASM, AS1M result.

Maybe my calculations regarding ASX FP can pay 6.x% for 3 years is coming true...

QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Dec 22 2016, 02:36 PM)
You must always remember, what goes up must come down, and vice versa. If you want to run away, where to? FD? with measly 3% interest rate? Crisis won't last forever. Sooner or later, the financial market would be on an uptrend again. But when? Well, that's anybody's guess. At the very least, this time around, our economy is still growing, albeit around 4% rate. It's not contracting, fortunately.

Should Trump's pro growth policies manage to lift US growth higher than expected, Malaysia would benefit as well, since we are a trade dependent nation.
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Asia Pacific bonds funds. To be precise Affin Hwang Select Bond fund. They are able to able to give more or less the same results as ASX FP. over 10 years. In fact they give better results when you compare it over 10 years.

If this continue (ASW2020, ASM, AS1M), expect people to cash out.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Dec 22 2016, 02:41 PM
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post Dec 22 2016, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Dec 22 2016, 09:07 PM)
hmm sunny days seem over.. times of 5 or 4 % awaits for ASX..
so this is the 1st time ASB fall below 7% since inception?
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I believed so.
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post Dec 23 2016, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 23 2016, 09:08 AM)
You will see OPR and BLR increase too. FD rate decrease
Inflation rate will increase. Not only asx rate decrease.

This is Malaysia. When the nation lead by a pack of
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Bro apa you cakap? OPR increase FD increase.

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