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asiatrader98
post Mar 14 2007, 04:40 PM

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so shall i wait for this WiMAX ? or get the maxis wireeless broadband? icon_question.gif rclxub.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 12:23 AM

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Never wait for the cows to come home. I remember a conversation I overheard about 2 years ago, when Telekom came to my Taman -- new residential area -- to sign up new users for phone line & Streamyx. This neighbor of mine said to his wife, "Don't bother with Streamyx. Let's wait for [name of some wireless broadband company]." Well... that particular wireless broadband service never reached my neighborhood. Ever. And now, Streamyx ports in my area is full. I wonder if this neighbor ever got his broadband fix. laugh.gif

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post Mar 15 2007, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(husagi @ Mar 15 2007, 12:23 AM)
Never wait for the cows to come home. I remember a conversation I overheard about 2 years ago, when Telekom came to my Taman -- new residential area -- to sign up new users for phone line & Streamyx. This neighbor of mine said to his wife, "Don't bother with Streamyx. Let's wait for [name of some wireless broadband company]." Well... that particular wireless broadband service never reached my neighborhood. Ever. And now, Streamyx ports in my area is full. I wonder if this neighbor ever got his broadband fix. laugh.gif
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Got, i am ur neighbour........dun talk behind ppl back....ok jokin... tongue.gif
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post Mar 15 2007, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(husagi @ Mar 15 2007, 12:23 AM)
Never wait for the cows to come home.


iBurst in coming to town.
Maybe shld wait otherwise stuck for 2 yrs of lousy broadband service.

doh.gif First Wirefree, Now iBurst
Wonder if Wimax will ever land on our shore.

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QUOTE(archonixm @ Mar 15 2007, 01:05 AM)
Got, i am ur neighbour........dun talk behind ppl back....ok jokin... tongue.gif
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You not my neighbor la. Absolutely positively sure. tongue.gif


Added on March 15, 2007, 11:52 am
QUOTE(theedge @ Mar 15 2007, 11:28 AM)
iBurst in coming to town.
Maybe shld wait otherwise stuck for 2 yrs of lousy broadband service.
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Wait? Who's willing to wait? 2 years of zero versus lousy broadband service? Which one is better?

Now, at least, you got other alternatives to WiMAX besides HSDPA or 3G. Good thing, no?

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since now ady afternoon..i think now goverment ppl only want to start work after minum pagi...but its near lunch ady....haha..makan dulu!!
so actuali its work time is after lunch rite?
fuh..til now also no news bout wimax..waste time waiting ma
after tat hv to wait they implement all the operation..damn slow.take few months.but i heard like jaring or sumthing had set up some antenna in KL but got stoped by gov..so i dunna la.
we c by tonight wat happen
meeting also so long....
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post Mar 15 2007, 01:33 PM

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It's good what..
WiMAX making somebody shares going up.
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post Mar 15 2007, 07:09 PM

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http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_bus...s.php?id=251377

"Govt To Announce WiMax Licence Recipients Tomorrow"
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post Mar 16 2007, 12:38 PM

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WIMAX WINNER ANNOUNCED ON MAIN PAGE

SO IN PENINSULAR MALAYSIA we have 3 service provider. How its going to effect us ?

STAY TUNED. rclxm9.gif
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Interesting, Can the wimax CPE interwork between different operator?
Of course assuming that all the 3 licencee rollout.

Will the user interest be protected. Since there is no standard body in Malaysia that check CPE interoperatability with different operator.

Wimax being an open system, may not so open at this stage.
Hope we wont be short change with prototype equipment.






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http://www.greenpacket.com/company/index.asp

GreenPacket partner with Maxis ....
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post Mar 16 2007, 03:52 PM

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Good luck to the winner!!! Who's going to bet which company will kaput first?
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http://www.cmc.gov.my/Admin/WhatIsNew/2074...60307_final.pdf

wimax winner


Added on March 16, 2007, 4:24 pm
QUOTE(asiatrader98 @ Mar 14 2007, 04:40 PM)
so shall i wait for this WiMAX ? or get the maxis wireeless broadband? icon_question.gif  rclxub.gif
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i thing you dont thing too expect too high lah , malaysia do thing is all 'bad'ter then other ppl de , korea wimax can reach 5mbps leh , did you thing malaysia can do it or not ? doh.gif

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QUOTE(oc_yee @ Mar 16 2007, 04:21 PM)
http://www.cmc.gov.my/Admin/WhatIsNew/2074...60307_final.pdf

wimax winner


Added on March 16, 2007, 4:24 pm
i thing you dont thing too expect too high lah , malaysia do thing is all 'bad'ter then other ppl de , korea wimax can reach 5mbps leh , did you thing malaysia can do it or not ?  doh.gif
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Can... 256kbps... rclxms.gif
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post Mar 16 2007, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(Joshua_0718 @ Mar 16 2007, 06:08 PM)
Can... 256kbps...  rclxms.gif
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digi did not get the WiMAX licences , so cheaper & good service for broadband is unlikely

souce: The Edge

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.js...8ff900-883830f9
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post Mar 16 2007, 10:45 PM

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who the hell is asiaspace dotcom ??? never heard of 'em ???? huh fishy sweat.gif

most likely all the wimax provider will trottle the pakets since they want to improve their QoS ..... juz pray that it will be cheaper & better then ehem2 icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 16 2007, 11:45 PM

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Only YTL-E has deep pockets compared to the rest. Wish them luck. muahaha. Redtone currently in not-so good financial situation and they are the sole provider in Sabah and Sarawak. Bet those ppl in Bario, Kinabalu can enjoy better internet access in the future thanks to Redtone. Malaysia Boleh!
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QUOTE(theedge @ Mar 16 2007, 12:57 PM)
Interesting, Can the wimax CPE  interwork between different operator?
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Interoperability? Last I heard, Green Packet's SONMetro is not even WiMAX... Wonder if that's what they're using to roll out their "WiMAX" network.

QUOTE(cruzzmz @ Mar 16 2007, 10:45 PM)
who the hell is asiaspace dotcom ??? never heard of 'em ???? huh fishy sweat.gif

most likely all the wimax provider will trottle the pakets since they want to improve their QoS ..... juz pray that it will be cheaper & better then ehem2  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Asiaspace has been around in the telco biz for quite a while already. They've been renting out towers and telco infra to the telcos, I believe. In terms of the number of sites that they already own, they probably won't have much problem with their roll outs. Compare that to the other 3 players who will have to spend several months acquiring sites for their transmitters!

BTW, guys... read the second last paragraph in MCMC's press release.

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We expect winners to quickly roll out the service to 25% of the population in the area given to them by the end of this year, with a service provision of at least 1MBps at affordable rates. At the end of third year, it is expected that they will be able to roll services to at least 40% of the population in the areas given to them.

So I'm thinking..... how much will it cost the end user to subscribe to a 1Mbps WiMAX service? I did some calculations. My assumption is that the bulk rate of leasing a 1Mbps Internet line per month is RM500 (dunno if it can be that cheap cuz basic 1Mbps leased line is already RM2k at least!). Then, I also assume that the Internet bandwidth oversubscription rate is 1:10. I.e., each user will share a 1Mbps line with 10 other users. In ISP terms, that's actually very oversubscribed. To get decent service, the ratio is usually 1:5 or 1:8 at most. So I came up with a basic cost of RM50 per user per month. At this point, I haven't even calculated the cost of operating the WiMAX network. Manpower can be costly. And don't forget CAPEX too!

So, if the operators can offer RM80 for a 1Mbps package, they're probably breaking even!

My next question: even if WiMAX can offer 5Mbps or 10Mbps or whatever... are we willing to pay thru the nose? It will definitely be more than RM100 for monthly access fees.

Triple/Quad play, anyone? rclxub.gif
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post Mar 17 2007, 05:07 AM

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Ah forget wimax...coz as usual the price will be expensive and the service is below average..maybe 256kbps hahaha....and coverage is <1km from tower
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QUOTE(husagi @ Mar 16 2007, 11:48 PM)
BTW, guys... read the second last paragraph in MCMC's press release.
So I'm thinking..... how much will it cost the end user to subscribe to a 1Mbps WiMAX service? I did some calculations. My assumption is that the bulk rate of leasing a 1Mbps Internet line per month is RM500 (dunno if it can be that cheap cuz basic 1Mbps leased line is already RM2k at least!). Then, I also assume that the Internet bandwidth oversubscription rate is 1:10. I.e., each user will share a 1Mbps line with 10 other users. In ISP terms, that's actually very oversubscribed. To get decent service, the ratio is usually 1:5 or 1:8 at most. So I came up with a basic cost of RM50 per user per month. At this point, I haven't even calculated the cost of operating the WiMAX network. Manpower can be costly. And don't forget CAPEX too!

if these services are rolled out in rural areas where internet culture is not as prevalent as the urbanites then initially it'll be more than 1:10. the ISPs wll have leverage but as the exposure catches up, the bandwidth will no longer be sufficient and the opex/capex will increase. even at 1:15 i'd believe the ISPs will have a hard time sustaining their core business.


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