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husagi
post Feb 28 2007, 01:07 AM

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TheEdgeDaily: Green Packet, YTL, REDTone-linked firms front-runners for WiMAX 2.3GHz

Article dated 27 Feb 2007.
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post Feb 28 2007, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(husagi @ Feb 28 2007, 01:07 AM)
I doubt they have the resources for nationwide rollout.

What are our ministers thinking?
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post Feb 28 2007, 11:33 AM

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Got money, can lock 'n loll! Resources can be hired, as long as they have the mulah. But I'm doubtful about Redtone. They're having such a tough time right now.
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post Feb 28 2007, 03:33 PM

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food for thought:

3G operators with deep pockets can't even rollout HSPDA klang valley wide.

Well GP and Red have something the big mobile boys lack.

Ha Ha

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post Feb 28 2007, 11:17 PM

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Maybe existing ISP would just stick to 2.5 Ghz band..

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post Feb 28 2007, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(theedge @ Feb 28 2007, 03:33 PM)
food for thought:

  3G operators with deep pockets can't even rollout HSPDA klang valley wide.

Well GP and Red have something the big mobile boys lack. 

Ha Ha
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Haih.. Now that you've mentioned the clowns whom I was ready to forget... I guess, besides money, they need less ego and less dung slinging in the boardroom too. icon_rolleyes.gif (Pssst! I'm not talking about the existing 3G ops who have already rolled out some HSDPA infra. tongue.gif )
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From the look of it, it is kinda hard for those with 3G license to be awarded the WiMax license. Plus the guys that already rolled out 3G network already feeling the pinch - costly network but no killer apps that can generate the revenue.

Now come the WiMax - market perceives the technology offers better speed and coverage with super duper cheap price. Only the big guys with deep pockets can offer such things in the firtst phase of service roll-out with considerable coverage. Those 'small fishes' just trying their lucks - get license, build some network coverage, got difficulty (flame by LYN hahaha), buyout from big guys and the directors make their profits. Malaysia boleh! wink.gif
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anyone can enlighten

If GP's s..Metro is the killer solution for broadband.

Hmmmm

Y then do they need wimax.





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Metro-E is for wired solution which can hit 1Gbps speed. WiMax is for Wireless - which i dunno what's the Max means. smile.gif
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post Mar 3 2007, 08:15 PM

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theedge is referring to GreenPacket's SONMetro wireless solution. Not to be confused with Metro Ethernet.


Added on March 3, 2007, 8:23 pmhttp://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2007/3/3/technology/20070303140657&sec=technology

Bagging the WiMax licences

BY next week, the Energy, Water and Communications Minister Datuk Seri Dr Lim Keng Yaik is likely to announce the winners of the Worldwide Interoperability for Microwave Access (WiMax) licences, industry players say. ...


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may i ask why Government only release 4 license? cant 5 license or more? is malaysia too small, and government thinks we only need 4 license?

someone please tell me? wink.gif
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Because... there's only 100MHz of spectrum available for use. This 100MHz is divided into 5MHz slices. Why 5MHz, you ask? That's because a typical carrier bandwidth for a IEEE802.16e (WiMAX) system is 5MHz. So that makes 20 blocks of 5MHz spectrum available for bidding. If divided equally, then each of the 4 successful bidders will get 5 blocks. My take on this is that, each succcessful bidder will NOT get equal share, because 5 is quite an odd number for deploying a sensible radio network, especially if an operator were to use paired spectrum. Of course, whether or not a bidder chooses to use paired spectrum (FDD) is entirely up to the system they choose to deploy. Some may opt for TDD (i.e., not paired spectrum). But I think most would opt for FDD, unless they're not aware of the difference.....
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will it kicks out tm net?

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I personally take it as only 2 licenses available...

Another 2 has been booked for Maxis n Telekom.

Reasons:
1) "Protect the local players"
2) Sudah got share in those 2
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post Mar 5 2007, 11:53 AM

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total=4 license

2 license release first.other 2 lter

ytle and green packet will get both license......that y their share go up

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post Mar 5 2007, 04:19 PM

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check out this article
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Sun...04083122/Articl
e/index_html

Look like there is an alt network for broadband.

All the hype bout "why max" and there is already a broadband solution with reach.

btw, which service provider offer this?


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QUOTE(husagi @ Mar 5 2007, 10:54 AM)
Because... there's only 100MHz of spectrum available for use. This 100MHz is divided into 5MHz slices. Why 5MHz, you ask? That's because a typical carrier bandwidth for a IEEE802.16e (WiMAX) system is 5MHz. So that makes 20 blocks of 5MHz spectrum available for bidding. If divided equally, then each of the 4 successful bidders will get 5 blocks. My take on this is that, each succcessful bidder will NOT get equal share, because 5 is quite an odd number for deploying a sensible radio network, especially if an operator were to use paired spectrum. Of course, whether or not a bidder chooses to use paired spectrum (FDD) is entirely up to the system they choose to deploy. Some may opt for TDD (i.e., not paired spectrum). But I think most would opt for FDD, unless they're not aware of the difference.....
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Some spectrum would be wasted providing bigger guard band in FDD..

QUOTE(k8118k @ Mar 5 2007, 11:53 AM)
total=4 license

2 license release first.other 2 lter

ytle and green packet will get both license......that y their share go up
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GPacket just dropped to 4.68 just now... from almighty 6.7...
What did you just say?
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QUOTE(theedge @ Mar 5 2007, 04:19 PM)
check out this article
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Sun...icle/index_html

Look like there is an alt network for broadband.

All the hype bout "why max" and there is already a broadband solution with reach.

btw, which service provider offer this?
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Im Wirefree, apparently.

QUOTE(kons @ Mar 5 2007, 04:19 PM)
Some spectrum would be wasted providing bigger guard band in FDD..
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Really? IIRC, OFDM doesn't need inter-carrier guardband regardless of whether it's FDD or TDD. If it does, it's quite a small slice and the 5MHz bandwidth is inclusive of the guardband. Likewise, inter-operator guardband shouldn't be a concern, unless the adjacent operator(s) are not using OFDM-based technology.

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Im Wirefree, apparently.


Im Wirefree look promising, but no coverage map sad.gif

What the difference between Wimax and Im then?
both OFDM, so must be wimax then.

Did a bit of checking.
Other than Korea, no other country uses 2.3G for Wimax.
Singapore and Indonesia are going with 2.5G.

The 3G's telco must be on to something since all running 2.5G trial.



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QUOTE(theedge @ Mar 6 2007, 10:48 AM)
Did a bit of checking.
Other than Korea, no other country uses 2.3G for Wimax.
Singapore and Indonesia are going with 2.5G.

The 3G's telco must be on to something since all running 2.5G trial.
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Interesting point. Probably have something to do with quantity and price of CPE.

But using 2.5GHz is no better than 2.3GHz though, in terms of coverage footprint.

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