applying for full time studies. i will get full exemption for both professional certificate once i finish my bachelor degree in the near future.

i will also secure full sponsorship for my studies for either one.

so, what do you suggest /k/ tard? ICAEW or ACCA?


i dont really like acca coz acca nowadays too many already leh.

i also read that, ACCA and ICAEW nowadays not much difference. they're pretty much the same. any truth in that?

oh yes, compulsory tag Blofeld SadSoul

Icaew need accredited employer right?

junky_man

Dont go acca.

Go cisco.

my knowledge about ICAEW is very, very shallow. i know almost everything about ACCA on its surface though.

Of course ICAEW higher standard. No brainer.

sorry. last time when i was in secondary school, /k/fags suggested me to take accountancy instead of IT, and here i am. going to the next level in the field.

good but prepare real job bored

Last time ACCA exam included in SPM la. So, you got both SPM and ACCA certificate. Dunno if you are an oldfag lol

Edit:
It was LCCI, not ACCA. My mistake

SAUCE

This post has been edited by AeroMiku: Sep 26 2016, 08:10 PM

you've mistaken ACCA with LCCI. sorry.

agewisdom
blinkxox
jimmyktp
pisces88
khusyairi

again, mistaken ACCA with LCCI. different stuff.

U gal?

Usually gals take finance

im a guy

ICAEW la. It's more prestigious and well recognized in the UK and MNC's.

Ultimately, a lot of things depends on your attitude and working experience but ICAEW will give you an edge over all the other fresh graduates, which is all you can really ask for. In the past, ICAEW articleship was only available in the UK, so you're lucky if you have a chance to do it here, now.

Of course, you better make sure you're good enough to pass all the exams, cos ICAEW is definitely more difficult and demanding than ACCA. Most of the people taking ICAEW are usually close to being the top of their class, be it from accounting, engineering or other fields. So you'll be competing with them...

This post has been edited by agewisdom: Sep 26 2016, 08:20 PM

Do u still get exemptions if u take ICAEW? If ACCA u get exemptions for the papers that u have already covered in your BA. Last time uni mate have to take ICAEW from stratch after getting 1st Hons BA in Accounting and Finance

Can't really advise on this bro. Cos I have limited knowledge about icaew.

But u're right, lots of people have acca nowadays. Some go straight acca after spm too (skip degree).

Maybe u can have a look at jobstreet, does employers prefer acca or icaew? Or if u plan to work overseas, does that country prefer acca or icaew?

Employers in malaysia value acca alot

ICAEW brah.

If you don't mind me asking, what bachelors degree enables you to claim full exemption for both ACCA and ICAEW?

i cant reveal my degree/university here. later people bash. lul

yes, last time ICAEW came to our uni and held a talk. confirmed full exemption.

You must be a uk graduate then?

Icaew requirement iinm, you'll need to work for the accredited employee to count towards your work experience.. In Malaysia, not so much option on the employer, big 4, petronas, few others.. Acca a bit more option there...

My brother doing his icaew... Now stucked at final paper.. Only one more to go, but the toughest..

Acca easy nowdays.. My time, have to pass all 3 final paper at one go.. Nowdays the requirement more relaxed on this..

Its the same shit la

Sos from my acca lecturer

Its just the same ole debate on who is better, harder to score bla bla. Both accrediation is still prestigious enough to land high skill jobs

It's the same.

Only students and fresh grads care about the difference. a.k.a ICAEW is more prestigious, this and that, etc.

Employers don't give a damn.

micpa oso ok geh

Both are the same. For fresh grads, Big 4s will take in both. Once you are in, it's your performance that counts. At the end of the day, it's your experience and your PR that counts.

Tu rafizi ramli aca punya member
Acca member very common
Aca baru rare
Tony fernades jugak aca member
Actually micpa also quite okay thought

Nak tambah lagi
Try consider this
Err nama micpa-caanz
Thanks me later
sos

This post has been edited by Mr. Najib Razak: Sep 26 2016, 11:21 PM

non-accounting grads can study for these exams or not??

salary how much after getting these certs?

Tony got ACCA

Can gua
Ayam x berapa sure
Dah lama x sentuh pasal acc
Skrang ayam kan PM
Anyway work with big 5 to gain enough exposure and experience
Those can't be bought by money
Later start your own bussiness or join umno😀😀

This post has been edited by Mr. Najib Razak: Sep 26 2016, 11:31 PM

Aiks how u know I'm in accounting? Must be someone I know..

Actually both is okay. Just personal preference. I'm CPA Australia btw

New intakes in EY UK, u have 2 options. Either ICAEW or ICAS..

What happens outside Malaysia, I don't know.

In Malaysia, employers don't give a damn whether u're ACCA, CPA Aust, ICAEW, etc.

In Australia, employers give preference to holders of CPA Australia/ICAA due to national pride and have low regards on ACCA holders.

This post has been edited by Blofeld: Sep 27 2016, 02:05 AM

COOLIE.

UTAR atau UITM lettew....kekekekeke

my gf is ICAEW accredited..according to her its supposedly tougher and more prestigious than ACCA..plus gives u more of a differentiation from others as not many ppl have it

shes working for Petronas btw

can ICAEW or ACCA be self-studied??

or must attend courses?

how long to get this qualification?

Actually he got both

Career

He worked very briefly with Virgin Atlantic as an auditor, subsequently becoming the financial controller for Richard Branson's Virgin Records in London from 1987 to 1989.[11]

Fernandes was admitted as Associate Member of the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants (ACCA) in 1991 and became Fellow Member in 1996. He is currently a member of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales (ICAEW).

Fernandes was formerly a Warner Music executive in Malaysia.[12] He was the South East Asian regional vice-president for Warner Music Group from 1992 to 2001.

When Time Warner Inc announced its merger with America Online Inc., Fernandes left to pursue his dream of starting a budget no-frills airline.

In September 2001, Fernandes purchased AirAsia and became its chief executive.[13][14]
sos

/k discuss lah about difference between cima and cma certification
Ayam nak tahu

Have a friend after completing ACCA he takes Masters then DBA, completed all before he was 30

either /k many chartered accountant. Or just kids blow hot air

This post has been edited by Vape [On]: Sep 27 2016, 09:03 AM

/k monthly income > 20k
/k all ca
Work as cfo
Tapi ayam dikecualikan
Ayam pm

Nothing to be ashamed wat...it will be interesting knowing a local U/colleges been given full accredition & ability to award their student after their degrees w/out having to sit the final papers.

Well, long time ago & probably now, Tar college & Uitm are the only given the exemptions till the last stage of acc. It will be wonderfull that they are getting full exemption now.

I'm proud to be ex- Tarcian...batch of late 80's

I got MIA, CAT, ACCA etc.

However, in real world of work; it just a cert. CIMA, CPA, ICAEW also same. What really important are experience & how u present yrself.

Ok
And songlap skill also important

any cheap accounting course around selangor area? Tot of expanding my horizon and stretch it all the way from PD to teluk chempedak.

Thanks.

I think many have misunderstood the meaning of full exemptions.

Full exemptions means u can straight go to the final papers.

There's no such thing as exemption from all papers.

There are many accounting graduates out there are given full exemptions from ACCA.

This post has been edited by Blofeld: Sep 27 2016, 02:08 PM

full exemption, yeah right you mean only need to topup professional papers lah?

disclaimer: ayam ACCA. IMHO, ICAEW itself is not any better than ACCA, however some people consider ICAEW grads > ACCA grads. This is not entirely wrong because ICAEW accepts higher standard students than ACCA (IIRC SPM minimum 5 As vs ACCA 5 Bs), however it doesn't mean ACCA grads automatically worse than ICAEW grads lah. p.s. recently ICAEW has dropped its intake standards a little bit, so it all depends on how well you can BS your future employer

also ACCA program of study is more rounded than either CIMA or ICAEW. so I ask TS, what field of work do you intend to do?

This post has been edited by KLboy92: Sep 27 2016, 02:11 PM

not true.

Firstly CFA is a specialisation eg doctor further study into cardio rather than general

ICAEW and ACCA are the same and have the same entry paths

ACCA Professional level is also accredited postgrad level

but he got ACCA first, in 1986. so we gasak him dulu after that, further ambik ICAEW is just for bragging rights

how old are you?

ni mesti budak Uniten...

Ok you win
Haha

63.
Ayam kan najib

This post has been edited by Mr. Najib Razak: Sep 27 2016, 03:26 PM

big 5....

either you are too old or work with BDO

Me masih belajar lagi
My age and sex secret
Me blush alr 😊

can consider taking CPA. especially if you are working full time. You wouldnt have much time to study, to attend classes.

my subordinate, 1 got acca 1 got icaew. Both talk a lot. The one that perform is another staff who only has diploma/stpm (donno which one).

experience does matter.

Must give fresh graduates chances mah

not really fresh. around 27-28. To be fair, the perform one is late thirty.

Like that ah
Sponser your staff to study professional accounting qualification part-time is the right choice
Further hone his/her skills
Bawak lagi banyak untung
At the same time loyal to u
Win-win
Owai
Thanks me later😁😁😁😂😂

This post has been edited by Mr. Najib Razak: Sep 27 2016, 04:01 PM

Like I said, if you compare the two qualifications directly, ICAEW is more well recognised in the UK, next is CIMA and then ACCA.

Legal wise, they're all the same.

Obviously, it's more likely an employer would call an ICAEW graduate up for an interview, since there's fewer of them and it's reasonably tougher than ACCA. Whether you get hired, depends on your work attitude, performance in interview etc.

So, if you get an opportunity to do ICAEW, why not?

ICAEW's ACA designation is the crème-de-la-crème of Accounting qualifications. Try it if you can but it's tough and you need a firm to work with (at least it the requirement before, not sure if there are changes to this).

ACCA is for peasants like me.

Source: I'm a Chartered Accountant with 15 years experience.

not all people willing to put more effort on personal improvement especially those who already in comfort zone. We do sponsor staff for their further study.

Wah
Ts boss ni

Sincr u getting full schlorship go icaew. Acca is more common now while icaew not as muCH since its restricted.

Tbh in the end it only really matters to get u thRu the front doors. AfterwaRDS its all about how u play the game.

.Toyota and Honda also same what? Both also car and take you to your end.

Whyla debate?

Simple rule - more member is more better! Who got more member?

Acca has more members in Malaysia
The number if members doesn't define the gooding of the course
Your rule topkek.

Lel, you still remember me giving you advice eh?

To answer your question: depends.

To me ICAEW is more harder but more glamourous than ACCA. But i believe in general ppl know more about ACCA rather than ICAEW.

But i think the enrollment for ACCA is more than ICAEW, so you have more peers to refer to or have group studies and compare notes for discussion. Probably a bit more limited for ICAEW.

So boils down to you. If you can challenge yourself and be independent, go for ICAEW. Accounting firms and shared service centre would recognise more for that cert.

But if you wanna play safe and be recognised as well, ACCA is the way to go.

Both are highly respected in Malaysia.

I think CPA is easier - all open book only!

Icaew also open book test

ICAEW all the way bro

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If you / your friends are planning to sell off the following books, pls let me know [WhatsApp 0166363513]. I am willing to buy the books from you at your asking price.

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This post has been edited by 38kiakinjio: Apr 8 2017, 10:33 AM

TS forgot still got CPA

can self study or not??

how long to complete?

Depends ur ability lor

Apply to bpp or kaplan for online training.

Both overrated but we live in an credentialised society. Do icaew only becos got exemption n more entry restrictions unlike ACCA let every road dog cat unker enter.

Then spend d nxt 3 yrs slavin at big4 n exit as an 5k kuli.

Wtv the case all those models u will study only useful if u in consulting line.