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post Apr 14 2017, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(sinchan88 @ Apr 14 2017, 09:46 AM)
tks guys. Which do you think I should buy? The 3 day metro pass or the Yamanote pass? I will be going to places like Ueno, senso-ji, odaiba, Chidori Ga Fuchi, harajuku, meiji jinggu, tsukiji etc. Can I get it at Shinjuku Station?
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You need to plan your route to maximize your savings on the 3 days pass. Arrange your itinerary/ visits that uses mostly Metro line in that 3 days. And that, young man, is your homework for the trip laugh.gif you can use Google Map or Hyperdia to help plan your trip.

You can get the 3-days pass in these locations:
http://www.tokyometro.jp/en/ticket/value/travel/

Preferably get it at the airport (since you're already there), but also depending on your landing time. The counter is not open at night.
You'll need to show your passport when you purchase the passes, as its only for tourists/ foreigners.

Just to let you know, there is no Yamanote pass. Tokyo's train/ subway transportation system is managed by many different operators but the 2 main operators are the Tokyo Metro (thus the line managed by them are known as Metro line) and Japan Railway (manages the JR line). These 2 main operators' network would have covered most of the popular tourist attractions within the city.

So for you to travel around these stations, it is more convenient (than buying tickets) to get the PASMO or SUICA card. They are like our local Touch N Go where you purchase the card (with 500yen deposit in the card) and top up/ reload as you go. PASMO is issued by Metro and SUICA is by JR. However, you can get either card for it to be used across *all* stations in Tokyo. For example, you got the PASMO. You can use it when you ride the Yamanote Line or Metro line. There are no restrictions

If you're still unclear or needed to understand more, check these sites out:
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2359_003.html
https://www.thejapanguy.com/what-is-a-pasmo...s-a-suica-card/

Note: at the end of your trip, if you didn't want to take the card home (remember there's a deposit of 500yen in there) - you can return the card and get your refund at the airport.

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post Apr 14 2017, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 14 2017, 10:34 AM)
For me in Tokyo frankly I nv bother using pass cos you need to do quite a bit of planning, need to travel a lot and need to take detours, and even then don't save that much ¥. In fact I nv even bother buying pasmo/suica lol, just every trip buy new ticket only 😬
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Hahaha it is very subjective to individuals. From personal experience (and it wasn't very extensive planning, by the way), i saved at least 1,500yen by using my 3 days pass. If hadn't used the pass, my 3 days' trip may have cost me around 3,000yen or more (as i go around a lot in a day, and sometimes quite far) but thanks to the pass, i saved at least half. Friends and I were happy with that. Going back to Tokyo next year, I'll definitely get the pass again.

For PASMO/ SUICA, its more for convenience sake. Since it costs the same (getting the individual ticket or using IC card), definitely will go for the card. You'll be faster in entering as well, without the need to stop at the kiosk each time to purchase tickets. The only downside is the need to keep the card closely and not lose it.
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post Apr 14 2017, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(sinchan88 @ Apr 14 2017, 11:37 AM)
Thank you for the clear information. I have read alot online which you have explained clearly here. Yes, I have done my 4 days itinerary. Everyday itinerary are quite pack with various of places. Yes, I've done my home using google maps on transport. Most of the places have transits which I'm worried I'll get lost. lol.. When I read that place of interest are mostly on Yamanote line, Im confused since I'm planning to get Metro pass! Since Metro line can reach to those places Im at ease of getting it. Thank you so much @sweet_pez!
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Sounds good. And yes, some of the major attractions are along the Yamanote Line.However, it may also be possible to get there via Metro Line.

I'll just cite 1 example:

There are 2 stations in Akihabara.

Option 1: You can ride the JR's Yamanote Line and get off at Akihabara station.
Option 2: Ride the Metro line and get off at Suehirocho station to get to Akihabara.

Suehirocho station is also located within Akihabara, at the main street.

So what i'm saying is, there are different ways to get to your destination.

If you have your itinerary lined up, why not share with us here so that everyone can give some recommendation? biggrin.gif
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post Apr 14 2017, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(lucaswjk @ Apr 14 2017, 12:01 PM)
if u carefully planned it... u will save money
tokyo metro pass... my last trip totally worth of it

pasmo suica.... don't bother to get it....
afterall my HK and TW mrt card still with me...
everytime forget to return
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Actually most of us tourists - we're not very good with the IC Cards. Not just subway/ train and buses, you can actually shop with the the card, which we hardly ever do so in Tokyo cool2.gif

https://www.japanstation.com/japans-prepaid...cards-ic-cards/
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"Shopping at convenience stores

Rechargeable train cards can also be used to buy food, drinks and other goods at many convenience stores (konbini), such as 7-Eleven, Lawson and Ministop, as well as pay for courier services. For instance, if you wanted to send your luggage from one part of Japan to another, you could go to a participating konbini chain store and pay with a Pasmo or Suica card.

IC train cards can also be used to pay for coin lockers, goods at vending machines, parking lots and even Nintendo video games via the Wii platform. Just look for the IC card logo to see if you can use your card."



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post Apr 14 2017, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(huaweie5830 @ Apr 14 2017, 12:34 PM)
Don't need to refund the card deposit

My Icoca from last kansai used at Tokyo

Save all the troubles
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Not everyone's a Japan mania like us all here laugh.gif most of my friends are $ conscious and they all went to get their refund st the airport by returning the card.
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post Apr 14 2017, 12:55 PM

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10 years expiry. If you didn't use the card after 10 years, it will expire.
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post Apr 14 2017, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(sinchan88 @ Apr 14 2017, 02:09 PM)
yes there are 2 ways to get to the destinations. The easy way or the 'mafan' way..  Allright, I'll share my tight schedule here. Kindly advice..  tongue.gif
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Looks good. On Day 2 perhaps you'll want to swap Ginza and Odaiba, with Ginza in the afternoon and Odaiba at night. Odaiba's night view is breathtaking!

For Day 3, it seems really packed. May want to reconsider forgoing 2 of them so that its less hectic. Ah but too bad couldn't squeeze in others like Shibuya, Nakano, Tokyo Station etc. Now I'm starting to wonder how did I managed to do so much back in last year's 4 days trip hmm.gif

Basically I went:

Asakusa, Sensoji, Nakamise Street, Ginza, Hamarikyu, Tsukiji, Tokyo Station, Harajuku (Takeshita Dori), Meiji Jingu, Yoyogi, Tokyo Tower, One Piece Tower, Akihabara, Odaiba, Ueno Park, Nakano, Ameyokocho, Kabukicho, Shibuya - Hachiko and Shibuya Scramble.

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post Apr 14 2017, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(sinchan88 @ Apr 14 2017, 03:38 PM)
I was thinking Ginza and Odaiba are night viewing so I was considering it... Yes I'll take your advice of swapping them  thumbsup.gif If I don't go for Mt Fuji probably I could squeeze in some other place..

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No problem, just a suggestion on the Ginza and Odaiba. And since you're going, if possible, place Ginza on a weekend. The Chuo Dori (in front of Uniqlo) is closed off for pedestrians on weekend from 11am onward, and its one of the main photo-taking spot.

Eh omg you're bringing your folks. Make sure not to over pack your itinerary, it'll be very tiring for them. If you're to cut down, yes I agree that the Piss Alley can be skipped. In fact, I think Omoide Yokocho also can be skipped if no time. Kabukicho's "night life" only start from 9 or 10pm. A friend went there around 7pm and there was nothing much. Drop by Nichome in Kabukicho laugh.gif eye opener for your parents.

I think its a good decision to bring your folks to Mt Fuji. Its one of the highlight when it comes to Japan. Besides, Hakone/ Kawaguchiko is a pretty relaxing stroll and visit, although there'll be a crowd.

If you're on for Hakone, top up a little for the Romancecar. Totally worth the time (saved) and comfort. Hakone closes fairly early, at around 4-430pm or so (remember to check timetable for the last cruise ride, as well as last bus or train back), that's why its better to get there earlier. A Romance car departing around 8am from Shinjuku is decent, you'll arrive in Hakone around 9 or 9.30am. Then the rest of your time there will not be so rushed.

Note that the Ropeway is down (renovation) so if you plan to go to the Owakudani, you'll have to take a bus there. Apparently the queue is pretty horrendous sweat.gif friend sent the photo to me when he was there 2 weeks ago. Good news is that, again, its a fast moving queue.

For Hakone, most of the info can be found here:
http://www.hakonenavi.jp/english/basics/trip/
http://www.odakyu.jp/english/destination/hakone/

Can't comment on Kawaguchiko, as I haven't been there yet hahaha.

QUOTE(sinchan88 @ Apr 14 2017, 03:38 PM)
As you can see morning sessions are cherry blossom time because my old folks wants to see them. 'I hope there are still flowers on trees when we are thereof this month' *finger cross

I could see my day 3 are very packed and tiring.. probably i might forgo Piss alley..

4 days seems like ganjeong trip right? Need to save some leave for my Aug trip..
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Btw, when are you flying? Lets hope when you get there, the sakura will bloom again. Due to recent rain, a lot was washed down and the trees are pretty bare sad.gif ...hahaha you'll definitely get to see some, but perhaps not everywhere full bloom.

For your Day 3, consider letting go of Yasukuni Shrine if cannot make it. Since you're going Meiji Jingu, Zojoji and Sensoji - it should be fine? Although they are not the same haha. but due to time essence, consider covering 2-3 shrine or temple. If you're going Hakone, there's also the Hakone Shrine to visit.

Just additional sharing: Meiji Jingu (and other that usually has a Tori) - its a Japanese shrine. Zojoji and Sensoji are Buddhist temples (tera) and its mainly common in Japan because there are Japanese and Buddhist devotees.

Bahahaha its okay, make do with what you can in that 4 days. Not everyone has the luxury of taking a week or two off work biggrin.gif plus, this is always a good excuse for a 2nd trip in future to cover the other areas.

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post Apr 15 2017, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Apr 14 2017, 08:39 PM)
sweet_pez i guess my very first tokyo trip i might have been able to save money. cos wanted to pack everything in and do damn a lot of places at once. 2nd-4th trips more selamba, end up at most 4-5 trips only per day (2-3 of them on JR, not metro) so wouldn't have saved much if at all.
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I see, no wonder 😂 i think the more often you go, the objective of visit changes as well, including expenses.

QUOTE(sinchan88 @ Apr 14 2017, 11:03 PM)
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I'll be flying on 27 April and back on 1 May night flight. Can't even see sceneries.. Hmm.. AA~ BTW I hope the weather will be GOOD!

Don't worry my folks are tough ass..  bruce.gif  One with taichi and the other still carry some weight.. Haha.. Instead they are worry about my fat bro with leg problem..  doh.gif 

Yea, Hakone seems a very nice place with very relax onsen if Im not mistaken but schedule are tight. Can't make it.. Well, I have booked bus from Shinjuku station at 745am n coming down at 3.55pm. I planned to get the bus package including lakes kawaguchiko, lake saiko, lake shojiko, lake motosuko… But I've not priorities which to go first.. lol.. also planned for shibazakura. Unfortunately it's not in the bus package. I hope 6 hours is enough *finger cross*

This trip was not in the line actually..But Papa wants to see sakura for very long time.. and folks are getting old.. So we squeeze out time and $$$ for this trip.. Japan is big for sure will plan in future..  biggrin.gif
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Hahaha good to hear that your parents are tough. Onsen you can find it in both Hakone and Kawaguchiko. So meaning the bus package is inclusive of visit to both Kawaguchiko and the other lakes + Hakone?
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QUOTE(yahiko @ Apr 16 2017, 01:30 AM)
Hi guys,

question on the tokyo 3 day pass.
I can get at wherever there is tokyo metro info counter right, but must bring along passport. am i correct?

[Foreign Tourist Information]
1. Tokyo Metro Tourist Information (9:15 to 17:15)
Ueno Station Tourist Information, Ginza Station Tourist Information, Shinjuku Station Tourist Information, Omote-sando Station Tourist Information
any suggestion what to do in ikebukuro?
plan to head there in the morning (9-1pm) and to (1pm-3pm) nakano broadway afternoon and (4pm-10pm) shinjuku mid noon till night
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Yep you'll need to show your passport. It would be a good idea to go out with your passport though, don't leave it at home/ the hotel.


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post Apr 18 2017, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(wmx9969 @ Apr 17 2017, 09:27 PM)
I'm going on 9 may for 7 days at Tokyo wondering still got Sakura or not.
Exchange rate now is going crazy  bangwall.gif
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Yeah its a little late for Sakura, its starting to change season in May.
Look on the positive side, there'll be less crowd, less cold, less chances of rain and less queue for food!

Its likely that MYR will continue to depreciate in the coming weeks/ months. I suggest you change half of what you want to bring over. Change the other half towards the end of April.

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QUOTE(yvonnesoo @ Apr 18 2017, 11:00 AM)
at the moment don't have. depends on which month you go also. i have been scouting for weeks. all mostly over 1k  cry.gif
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Around RM1k or slightly above RM1k inclusive of baggage, I think its a decent price hahaha. Not cheap, but still below standard price - can consider it!

QUOTE(zemega @ Apr 18 2017, 11:09 AM)
What about JAL? A friend is going on 25th april, RM 600. Bought last week.
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RM600 return is dirt cheap, but I think you're referring to one way? I've not seen <RM1k offered by JAL for return.
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Apr 18 2017, 11:28 AM)
yea...if JAL return only rm600, i will buy immediately regardless of the dates
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Exactly, count me in too laugh.gif
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Ah but I tend to want to avoid summer, its way too hot. But most of the matsuri is in Summer.
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QUOTE(yvonnesoo @ Apr 18 2017, 11:33 AM)
need at least 1.5k inclusive all for tokyo while 1.3k for osaka. oh with aax so i don't think it's cheap. the only thing i like is direct flight.

if like this i rather consider other flight also cost around that price. downside is  longer layover  sweat.gif
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AAX for RM1.5k?? Nooooooooooooooo. I bought MAS-JAL for RM1.7k full board. Although abit pricey, it was a pleasant fly with JAL.

QUOTE(Belphegor @ Apr 18 2017, 11:40 AM)
Same. AA now cheapest, from May until September also got RM1089 price tag
I reckon is not the cheapest. There are chances that currently is the "peak season" of purchasing flight tickets. Let us wait until mid of May. I bought my Vietnam Airline ticket last year mid of May, RM1533 for two pax to Narita on Feb 2017. laugh.gif
Not to mention with the price might be slightly lower and inclusive of everything! hmm.gif

Checked almost all the available sources I can get yesterday, still no cheap flights to Tokyo, Osaka, Seoul, Sydney. All still quite above average prices. cry.gif
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Which flight are you checking? Please tell when you found cheap flight!
So last time you flew via Vietnam Air to Tokyo? Its a transit flight right?

I flew with them for my Nagoya trip. It was really nice (although no personal screen for in-flight ent) although had to transit.


QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Apr 18 2017, 11:44 AM)
rm1533 to narita is actually not bad price
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For 2 pax!!!! Its cheap!
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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Apr 18 2017, 11:57 AM)
Not AAX, but Vietnam Airlines. They have inclusive of luggage, meal and blanket earphone for the whole flight. Had to transit to Hanoi, then take a flight to Narita 3 hours later. Good also la, reach there ngam ngam morning 7am. laugh.gif

My flight to Hanoi got no entertainment, only meal. But to Narita got flight entertainment, some really updated movies and the food was really good!  thumbup.gif If you don't mind on spending some time to transit, Vietnam Airline is definitely a choice you must consider.
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Ah yes, same thing. It's similar flight if we're talking about Vietnam Air. Nagoya's one is the same as well, and I must say, their leg room is a lot more spacious than even MAS.

QUOTE(Belphegor @ Apr 18 2017, 11:57 AM)
If I found any will let you guys know. brows.gif Should have a whatsapp group to inform everyone when anyone found any cheap flight tickets. tongue.gif

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Yes please! Do create a group chat and PM HP number to be added to the group - to whoever is keen biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Belphegor @ Apr 18 2017, 11:57 AM)

Last minute deal definitely a nono for me. Need to plan ahead. I plan way too ahead, I bought my Taiwan trip on next year Jan 2-9. brows.gif
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I'm okay with last minute - as long as its 2-3 months ahead. I'm more worried about getting my leave approved than the planning part. Especially Tokyo, I'm comfortable with it, so even if its 1 month before, I don't mind hahahahaha.


QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Apr 18 2017, 11:59 AM)
the cheapest AA for kl-osaka return tix that i managed to find were rm900/pax during gawai holidays...
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Hmmm Osaka is usually cheaper than Tokyo. Perhaps the distance is shorter?


QUOTE(Belphegor @ Apr 18 2017, 12:03 PM)
Spend some time transit is not a bad idea afterall. I manage to buy something during the transit period. laugh.gif Depending on how long the transit is actually. Less than 3 hours still acceptable to me.
Cheapest was RM700+, to Tokyo land on Narita was RM853+- if I'm not mistaken. Both not available right now, so better don't press panic button now. I always buy at least 3 months before the trip. So if you are travelling on December, September still consider okay. tongue.gif
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Must bring USD or Vietnamese Dong. During our transit in Ho Chi Minh (KUL-HCM-NGY), there's about 2-3 hours and we saw a lounge to rest (chargeable). Can charge phone, get 2 free drinks, nap on the comfortable couch etc but we realized we didn't thought about bringing Dong or USD! Luckily one of our friend brought some USD as emergency cash HAHAHAHA and we forced him to use it.

QUOTE(yvonnesoo @ Apr 18 2017, 12:10 PM)
that is why i reluctant to purchase. hold the horse first.. i lazy to have transit but if transit time less than 2 hours is ok for me tongue.gif 3 hours too long for me unless long haul.

tokyo 700+ or 853+ is on which month?

3 months before trip you wont feel rush? manage to plan especially accommodation?
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3 months before is actually okay in my opinion. My airBnB host cancelled on me 2-3 weeks before I was due to arrive laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Apr 18 2017, 12:31 PM)
Actually 3 hours is still alright. Consider you need to move out from the flight, go through custom checks and all, that takes half an hour. Lepak their tax free shops like 30 - 45 minutes, rest one hour, makan 30 minutes.. laugh.gif not much time left also. tongue.gif
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Yes, their space quite okay IMO. Good enough compare to AA lol.. Not to mention their food, hot and delicious!  rclxms.gif
Just create a whatsapp group and create the join link. Then whoever wants to join can just click it. hmm.gif
If is cheap flight, heck I don't mind if is next month to Tokyo! But need to start to ikat perut la.. biggrin.gif
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HAHAHAHAHAHA yes, but worth the ikat perut! And can create link to click in and join?? Please create and share biggrin.gif

QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Apr 18 2017, 12:45 PM)
count me in for the "cheap flights to japan" whatsapp group... brows.gif
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QUOTE(yvonnesoo @ Apr 18 2017, 04:43 PM)
mega_shok.gif  so you gonna find last min accommodation? that is the worst part about airbnb that i dislike  sad.gif
cause usually i bought flight ticket is midnite. hahaha.. so i only wanna sleep instead of lepaking  tongue.gif
i'm afraid i ikat perut also not enough to cover. need makan grass hahaha cz i travel more than one in a year. plus sometimes my trip is unpaid leave
how to go in? can't manage to click in  hmm.gif
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Yeah, I panicked. It was autumn too, one of the peak season. Quickly looked for another place to stay and luckily since its Tokyo, there are more AirBnB options. Managed to book another one the very next day (had to get my friends to agree on the new place too).

Even so, it wasn't all bad experience. I received refund from the cancellation within a day or two.

Still didn't manage to join the group?

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QUOTE(yvonnesoo @ Apr 18 2017, 05:12 PM)
manage to log in already. thanks
at least yours is 2-3 weeks before your trip. my friend experience on that day itself. more worst lolz
manage to join already.
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Complain to airBnB and get them blacklisted, that's the only thing that can be done. There's always a risk hmm.gif
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QUOTE(lchee @ Apr 19 2017, 11:37 AM)
I was there with 2 other friends from SG.  One sg fella used the pocket wifi, the other sg fella used the pocket wifi provided by our airbnb host (for free), and I used the sim card.  There were times where the 3 of us split up to go diff place to see diff things.  Having the sim card which cost 2500 yen valid for 7 days is really good.  I will say best to have one pocket wifi and one sim card for any group above 2 ppl.  This will have the flexibility for ppl to split up and meet again later.
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Yes, I kind of agree. Depending on the group, don't have to stick with each other all the time. I traveled with 2 very different group of friends before. In my 2nd Tokyo trip, they are very dependent on me. Even when I said its alright for us to split up, with them taking the WIFI (and I'll screenshot/ save my route beforehand) for 1/2 or 3/4 of the day, they preferred to go with me. Its the Ghibli Museum. They're not into Hayao Miyazaki or Ghibli animation, so I didn't want them to be bored or wait up. But since they insisted, I bought their tickets as well.

Although overall it was pleasant, I didn't get the satisfaction of slowly going through the place and do things at my own pace because I was concerned they will be bored. End up, I cut short my visit there.

Nagoya group - everybody had been to Japan before - and this is a more independent group, so we split up 3 ways in one of the day. Its "shopping day" (*cough* fukubukuro *cough*) and since everybody have different preference, we didn't stick together. In the evening we met up and went home together. Don't even recall having dinner together laugh.gif but it felt really good to be able to break away from the group once in awhile and see whatever I wanted to see, and take my time to explore the area. After that we shared stories and our loots for the day.

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