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TSepo
post Sep 19 2016, 01:09 PM, updated 10y ago

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Hi

Due to bajet, narrow down to these 2 models only. Of coz 2nd hand due to similar price.

Advantage on x100
- low noise on high iso
- sensor

Advantage on rx100
- weight
- 3x zoom

Anyone can help me to decide ?
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post Sep 19 2016, 01:14 PM

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if you are close range shooter X100 is dslr sensor size which is good, just prepare to run around for zoom using it 5 year top of the ranges for close ranges photo. you can digital crop. slower focus but superb colour. about 300 shot without flash with flash 150 or so.

3x is not much zoom but Rx100 is smaller sensor then dslr, so more noise , no need to run around.
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post Sep 19 2016, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 19 2016, 01:09 PM)
Hi

Due to bajet, narrow down to these 2 models only. Of coz 2nd hand due to similar price.

Advantage on x100
- low noise on high iso
- sensor

Advantage on rx100
- weight
- 3x zoom

Anyone can help me to decide ?
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Not a pro here, just some of my opinion.

Both are good camera, but for different purpose. X100 is more to natural and realistic record due to its 23mm lens. Rx100 is for pro photographer spare camera or ppl don't want to jump into a system.

If you want photo only, go for x100. If you will record video, go for rx100. In term of speed, rx100 1st gen is quite slow actually, and I dont think is memory card problem. X100 is not that slow too with its latest firmware, and inside the memory card cannot contain any files not from it's system. Lowlight performance, x100 will miss focus sometime and rx100 can be help by ois.

Overall I will say go for x100 if shoot photo and rx100 for video. Go to x100 if you like 23mm (35mm equv.) Or go to rx100 if you have no basic in photography.

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post Sep 19 2016, 11:24 PM

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Ask yourself if you need zoom and you get the answer, as simple as that.
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post Sep 20 2016, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 19 2016, 01:09 PM)
Hi

Due to bajet, narrow down to these 2 models only. Of coz 2nd hand due to similar price.

Advantage on x100
- low noise on high iso
- sensor

Advantage on rx100
- weight
- 3x zoom

Anyone can help me to decide ?
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Personally, I would recommend the RX100.

Versatile and compact. thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ Sep 19 2016, 11:24 PM)
Ask yourself if you need zoom and you get the answer, as simple as that.
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Frm previous exp, seldom use zoom

QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 20 2016, 12:41 AM)
Personally, I would recommend the RX100.

Versatile and compact.  :thumbsup:
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Yes the size win

But i wanna use this camera most in indoor scene. Like dinner with friends pic, food pic, in ofis pic, bday party pic, night view pic, etc
Feel x100 indoor pic is better than rx100 after google some sample.
Maybe due to its large sensor.
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(zaxkong @ Sep 19 2016, 07:41 PM)
Not a pro here, just some of my opinion.

Both are good camera, but for different purpose. X100 is more to natural and realistic record due to its 23mm lens. Rx100 is for pro photographer spare camera or ppl don't want to jump into a system.

If you want photo only, go for x100. If you will record video, go for rx100. In term of speed, rx100 1st gen is quite slow actually, and I dont think is memory card problem. X100 is not that slow too with its latest firmware, and inside the memory card cannot contain any files not from it's system. Lowlight performance, x100 will miss focus sometime and rx100 can be help by ois.

Overall I will say go for x100 if shoot photo and rx100 for video. Go to x100 if you like 23mm (35mm equv.) Or go to rx100 if you have no basic in photography.
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More shoot on photo n got exp in photography.
Read review said that latest firmware had fixed the miss focus isu in lowlight, hope it helps a lot when shoot indoor.

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 20 2016, 08:34 AM)
Frm previous exp, seldom use zoom
Yes the size win

But i wanna use this camera most in indoor scene. Like dinner with friends pic, food pic, in ofis pic, bday party pic, night view pic, etc
Feel x100 indoor pic is better than rx100 after google some sample.
Maybe due to its large sensor.
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The x100 is slow in low light situation, if you're talking about the first gen. smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:49 AM

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X100 to me more specialised. As in if you absolutely love fix focal and like to experiment zooming by foot. Frankly if you not going to pixel peep much, rx100 is enough unless you have specific requirement in mind.

Kind of pointless debate considering x100 and rx100 are meant for different consumer IMO.
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 20 2016, 08:38 AM)
More shoot on photo n got exp in photography.
Read review said that latest firmware had fixed the miss focus isu in lowlight, hope it helps a lot when shoot indoor.
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Go for x100. Hope you can accept all weakness of it as it is old machine.
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post Sep 20 2016, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 20 2016, 08:41 AM)
The x100 is slow in low light situation, if you're talking about the first gen. smile.gif
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Yes 1st gen but latest firmware aldy fixed it but dunno how good the improvement

QUOTE(DaddyO @ Sep 20 2016, 08:49 AM)
X100 to me more specialised. As in if you absolutely love fix focal and like to experiment zooming by foot. Frankly if you not going to pixel peep much, rx100 is enough unless you have specific requirement in mind.

Kind of pointless debate considering x100 and rx100 are meant for different consumer IMO.
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Which consumer targeted for x100 ?

QUOTE(zaxkong @ Sep 20 2016, 08:59 AM)
Go for x100. Hope you can accept all weakness of it as it is old machine.
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Even old mesin, review still prefer x100. Is it bcoz prime lens compare rx100 zoom lens ?
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post Sep 20 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 20 2016, 01:03 PM)
Which consumer targeted for x100 ?
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People who like retro styling camera with fixed focal, street shooters.

It is like asking which consumer for expensive Leica that only shoots B&W with no back LCD. It is absolutely not a travel camera, but there are people who bought it as travel camera nevertheless. Not saying x100 is not ideal for travel but the fixed focal may make you regret if you dont like the constraint.

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post Sep 20 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 20 2016, 01:03 PM)
Even old mesin, review still prefer x100. Is it bcoz prime lens compare rx100 zoom lens ?
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Nope. I am not comparing x100 with rx100. To me, i prefer x100 series too. I am comparing it to x100t model biggrin.gif
X100t is the consummation of x100 series. Fast focus, electronic shutter, wifi, classic chrome. So hope you can accept its weakness, else it will leave bad impression to x100 series.
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post Sep 20 2016, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Sep 20 2016, 01:11 PM)
People who like retro styling camera with fixed focal, street shooters.

It is like asking which consumer for expensive Leica that only shoots B&W with no back LCD. It is absolutely not a travel camera, but there are people who bought it as travel camera nevertheless. Not saying x100 is not ideal for travel but the fixed focal may make you regret if you dont like the constraint.
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Yes i've considered the fixed focal. Hope it will not fail me.

QUOTE(zaxkong @ Sep 20 2016, 01:18 PM)
Nope. I am not comparing x100 with rx100. To me, i prefer x100 series too. I am comparing it to x100t model biggrin.gif
X100t is the consummation of x100 series. Fast focus, electronic shutter, wifi, classic chrome. So hope you can accept its weakness, else it will leave bad impression to x100 series.
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X100t is wayyyyyy out of bajet aldy.

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post Sep 20 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 20 2016, 01:03 PM)
Yes 1st gen but latest firmware aldy fixed it but dunno how good the improvement
Which consumer targeted for x100 ?
Even old mesin, review still prefer x100. Is it bcoz prime lens compare rx100 zoom lens ?
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I have used the XE-1 and it shares the same hardware with X100, after the update, the whole AF improved a lot but still hunts during low light situation, which isn't really ideal for me.

On the other hand, I recommended my friend to get the RX100 and we brought the camera to test in a restaurant at night, the AF was better on the Sony, much more snappier. smile.gif


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post Sep 20 2016, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ Sep 20 2016, 02:22 PM)
I have used the XE-1 and it shares the same hardware with X100, after the update, the whole AF improved a lot but still hunts during low light situation, which isn't really ideal for me.

On the other hand, I recommended my friend to get the RX100 and we brought the camera to test in a restaurant at night, the AF was better on the Sony, much more snappier. smile.gif
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Arghhh... Make me feel so 50-50
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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 20 2016, 02:31 PM)
Arghhh... Make me feel so 50-50
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I am pretty sure you're favoring the bigger sensor. laugh.gif

I have the X100s with me and I really like it. smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(epo @ Sep 20 2016, 02:16 PM)
X100t is wayyyyyy out of bajet aldy.
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I know you just need ppl to push you a bit to x100. Just go!!
If not budget problem, sure x100t.
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post Sep 21 2016, 09:40 PM

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Left - x100
Middle - rx100 mk2
Right - a57 (my bro used it)

If low light hunting isu isn't there, 100% will pick x100.
Only solution that I'm thinking as of now, is that my friend need to flash their face with hp led for easy focus. tongue.gif


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post Sep 21 2016, 10:27 PM

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If you are really into photography, get the x100.

Pros:
+ Superb files, great color and tonality, almost film like
+ Fast F2 lens and Big sensor give you nice bokeh, dynamic range and ability to shoot in dark scene.
+ Viewfinder, it helps you to get into the mood of shooting ( Serious photog uses viewfinder)
+ Main setting (aperture, shutter, EV) can be set directly on the hardware
+ Better grip (the Sony rx100 feels like a bar of soap)

Regarding the fixed 35mm lens, I learned the most using a prime lens, it let you focus on the composition, message and feel

It does hunt badly on low light situation, most camera hunt in low light anyway. Just switch to manual focus and you will be fine. There is a distance indicator and magnifier (you have to enable it in setting) which aids focusing. It also help you to pre-focus, very useful when doing street photography. I shoot manual focus and prime all the time now. (legacy lens on Sony A7).

If you are reading this line, I hope you have made the decision. wink.gif

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