They made me sit down and listen to their crappy shit for 4 hours without stop. Even when their office is going to shut down for the night, they want to bring me to a mamak to talk more crap to me because i haven't and didn't want to sign on any single shit. Desperate beings, i'm scared of such people, tsk tsk.

join mine....
I dont give BS lecture...
Its either u in or u're out.....remember teh rule...40% commission for recruiting and thats all u need to do.

lot of dumbasses and I don't know where to start

1. If you're upline, you have tons of useless downline, you won't earn any shit
2. If you're upline, you have satay downline instead of multiple downline, you won't earn any shit
3. If you think selling product and earn BV to get bonus, that's not multi level marketing, that is one level marketing, hence, fail
4. You need to make your downline to be a real shit ass (successful in MLM term) in order for you to climb up
5. Direct selling, meaning selling the product to the end user, without a network (upline downline shit) you won't earn anything decent, don't be a fool

the concept of MLM is simple, you join, and you find more other useless people to follow as your downline, boost each other ego repeatly and show it to other people, cheat the other network for few times, put pressure the the MLM company about your network, making multiple useless functions, and finally move your network to the next company after awhile. repeat every 4 years.

good ...very good summary

ermm... u cant say Amway is overprice at all... for retailer products in Amway maybe yes but for Amway own products then No... Amway's supplements & household products involve in good qualities and R&D and tight QCQA process... They provide the finest quality products... how can u justify this for overprice? dont you agree so?

Advice to those interested people. If u interested in MLM, please look for well establish MLM company becos they have good legal & financial backups...

This post has been edited by takeshi99: Jan 29 2007, 06:11 PM

agree on every sentance
but looking on another side, this is what that drives them to evolve.

mlm is like most of the ppl says, the pioneer will always win; but who are the pioneers if everybody thinks alike?

Other thing to consider as untouched by this thread as yet.

There are plenty of ppl who are not interested in MLM, just 'cause they're just not interested in the thing at all. However, such disinterest can very quickly turn into paranoia indeed when approached by MLM ppl who just simply cannot take no for an answer despite having 'no' being told to them multiple times.

That as well as the failure to speak honestly on the failure rates of those who gets involved in MLM throws dirt on the reputation on the entire business model itself. One may argue that nobody will show the downsides of their business model, but this runs counter towards the entire model of MLM marketing itself, since its often shown as how different it is from other things and so forth. Basically the inconsistancy involved in the marketing tactics.

And finally: http://merchantsofdeception.com/

Shows that while the MLM model can have its good side, it also shows how easily abused it can get.

MLM is not a scam but they don't tell you the whole truth.They tell you one part and conveniently left out the other truths.
for eg:-


Half truth:- If you join us, you can earn 20-30K easily a month just by recruiting downlines and drive a BMW just like me. No need to work so hard.

The whole truth:- The chances of a person joining a MLM and making big bucks is less than 0.7%. Means that 993 ppl out of 1000 ppl will lose money. Also most MLM people have to work very hard to recruit and entertain thier potential downlines and face many rejections. Also the 20-30K income will not be consistent, if you downline stop growing your income stops as well.

" There are ppl who make things happen, there are ppl who see things happen, and there are ppl who asked "what happened?"

i find the quote funny, but this basically categorized the type of ppl..

This post has been edited by eddychstu: Jan 29 2007, 06:42 PM

for god sake why every MLM-ers is talking the same thing again and again without fail no matter which network you're from.
can't you guys gives us something different?

Well basically for me, real MLM company need product to sell. If no product, then its not MLM more like quick rich scheme.

To be a succesfull MLM company there need 2 things.

1. Exclusive product to sell
2. Good reward system

Now, it you look around, most MLM company sell what?

1. Beauty Product
2. Health Product
3. Household Product - Water filter etc2

To be a succesfull MLM pruduct is the main thing. Without good quality exclusive product, people wont buy and competitor easy to follow.

Example of very succesfull MLM company - Amway, Shakley, Cosway. These are a few company that sell good and exclusive product.They had survive for more than 3 years. Amway was way back (More than 15 years)

There are laws about MLM company/trade

Anyway there is a new product call ScoreA which also sell through MLM and currently one of the hottest MLM product. Its been around since 1999 and have been widely promote throughout Malaysia.

Why does MLM requires product anyway?
U want product i'll give u some cream or shampoo to sell then

Wtf is wrong with quick rich scheme?
All u WANT IS MONEY

Come on join my network, u get 40% of commission and I absolutely wont run away..

This thread is starting to attact the anti-mlm's...good good...show that we are againsts it

any more comment ?
Why dont I start a pool that see who will go for MLM and who will anti-MLM ....

i for sure will go against...hehehe

tell u my story, my gf's fren, approached my gf and asked her "what is your dream car", then he said join his bloody thing and she will get her dream car in three months.... until now... a few years liao, that guy still riding motorbike

another fren, still in college, doin all these shit... and later she said, i don wan to work after graduating, full time mlm, goyang kaki also can earn money... after graduating, she didnt work for 4 months, now masuk bank work again...

the biggest problem with i don care is drect sales or network marketing or mlm or o0o, they are all the same, desperate ppl being cheated to think that they can get rich doing all these shit? don be so naive la... so many ppl approached me, and NONE, i repeat, NONE that i know off can even afford a 80k car..... , don even talk bout bmws or fairladies....

if it is so freaking easy to get rich, then is there a meaning of rich left? everyone will be rich, then who are the poors? if there are no poor people, will there be rich ppl? if it is so easy to be rich, why are there so many ppl still doing a 9 - 5 job? cos they are stupid? cos they are not open minded? cos they are idiots who doesnt know how to grab the opportunity to buy a bmw 5 series in 3 months time??

no offense, but i think most mlms or direct sales or network marketing or o0o or watever u call them, are not selling any products? they are selling a dream to be rich, products are just to well... maybe to make them look legal.... and the thing i really hate is they like to cheat the weak... college students, damn... secondary school kids u also mau tipu?? where is your pride? i will be ashamed to do tat.... maybe they are naive as well, but deceiving them and taking advantage of them is really bad...

end of part 1.... if there is a part 2

And what good will that be? A more suitable poll will be on reasons on why ppl dun think much of MLMs. In fact, that is what most MLM ppl ought to look into so they can see why they've got such a bad name.

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Added on January 30, 2007, 1:16 amWell, the one similarity that MLMs and those direct sales places such as cobra and so forth has got is on how they make use of the mass recruitment tactics. Basically recruiting as many ppl as they can in the hopes of getting that one or 2 in every thousand or so that can be a good downline.

Recruitment tactics r very similar as well, the usual promises, without telling the full story, and the stubborn refusal of quite a lot of the recruiters to take a simple no for an answer despite having the same answer being repeated to them multiple times.


This post has been edited by fyire: Jan 30 2007, 01:16 AM

my fren who works in a bank told me about 3 LB guys sharing a loan for a BMW.. haha so successful also need 3 to share meh? they go around meetings n places each taking a turn to 'impress' the 'sky-trues'.

there was another time when a fren's fren parked his ferrari nearby a LB meeting area. as they were leavin after the meeting one LB guy pointed at the ferrari n claim it belongs to a very succesful LB top member and the audience .. wahhhh so good so good .. if u join LB u can even get better than this!

personally, majority of us are not comfortable approaching frens nor approached by frens selling these 'products' and its not cheap few hundred to thousands. it gets really pissed when a yum cha session is nothing more than highly acclaimed succesful mlm stories over n over again. even more pissed when they gang up together lets say ratio 10 to 1 to 'pressure' u a bit into becoming them.

for u newbies who thinks MLM is for u i wish u best of luck. for my frens who are doing it, plz return to yourself, wake up! plz stop dreaming n stop asking to borrow money from ppl to finance your business. how many more years you want to dream and owe ppl money!?!?

you wanna be rich? if you are given option 1, born a millionare papa's son, option 2 strike a lottery jackpot, option 3 brush up ur tackling skills n marry a rich man's daugther, option 4 work your ass up to the top. i dont care how good MLM is, how many millionares it produces yearly and whatever the goodshit bout it. i cant do it, i dont wanna try it and call me stupid/stuborn/etc .. my yumcha sessions i rather talk cock sing song play pingpong.

easy, coz MLM is scam. Only 5% people earn money. The rest got food to eat or lamp to display.

Well, that's the one bit that MLM ppl can never admit to. The total success ratio among all their recruits Most likely they'll just go on saying that the numbers r not relevant, as they can get very discouraging.

Thread reopen since the TS stated his intention to know more about MLM. Any advertisements will however cause the thread to be closed permanently. Please avoid from posting 1 liners as feedbacks to posts. Thank you.

This post has been edited by LaR_c: Jan 30 2007, 12:26 PM