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TSlaucy.my
post Sep 7 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 7 2016, 11:21 AM)
same thing, not all digital scales are 100% accurate.
i have one of those omron ones, specs clearly state +/- 600gms accuracy.
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I thought if I based the measurements at the same time on the same machine then it would be alright. Like if it is out by 600g then it'll be consistently out by 600g, no?

Also regarding the calories, it's about 650 calories for 30 mins on cardio wave machine and 200 calories on cross trainer. Sometimes I get bored of cross trainer so I mix it up with bike or full incline speed walking but I always start with cardio wave machine because it burns the most calories per minute for me. Trainer wants me to burn at least 1000 calories every cardio session so he already isn't satisfied with what I am doing.
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post Sep 7 2016, 11:46 AM

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I may suggest trying intermittent fasting too. I had great result losing 3kg in 8 weeks. Mind you, im cutting from <15% body fat to roughly 11-12% where 4 packs is visible.
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post Sep 7 2016, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Miracles @ Sep 7 2016, 11:23 AM)
1. Like the one you only eat 1 meal per day or FRUITS-only diet? Starve-like diets?

2. There is no best workout to lose fat. Hence, no one touches on it.

3. I don't know why you drink so much Lolol. I barely drink 2L per day. IIRC, recommended water intake is about  2L/daily.

4. Yes, I understand but you must eat according to your TDEE, not below BMR. You are spoiling your metabolic rate.
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1. Yes I had ones like that before but the 23kg weightloss was based on low carb diet. Well I started with mindful eating and always had one glass of water before I eat so I ate whatever I wanted but only until I am full. I still ate ice cream. Eventually ice cream portion becomes smaller and smaller to the point where it disappeared and only ate healthy, whole food. I made sure to have at least 30g protein per meal but I never calculated calories.

2. I used to drink 5L a day so this is a reduction already.

3. Thank you, I will now do it for a week see how it goes.
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QUOTE(laucy.my @ Sep 7 2016, 11:43 AM)
I thought if I based the measurements at the same time on the same machine then it would be alright. Like if it is out by 600g then it'll be consistently out by 600g, no?

Also regarding the calories, it's about 650 calories for 30 mins on cardio wave machine and 200 calories on cross trainer. Sometimes I get bored of cross trainer so I mix it up with bike or full incline speed walking but I always start with cardio wave machine because it burns the most calories per minute for me. Trainer wants me to burn at least 1000 calories every cardio session so he already isn't satisfied with what I am doing.
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possibly, but 600gms is too minute and not worth the time to really measure.
one can lose 2kg just in water from body...or 300gms just from going to toilet tongue.gif

as for calories...i think that machine is grossly over-estimating.
u should get / borrow a HRM from someone, preferably from garmin or mio, then see what it says in terms of calories burnt.
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post Sep 7 2016, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Sep 7 2016, 11:41 AM)
I believe u need to shift yr focus on monthly week lost instead of weekly or daily. Fluctuations occurs every single day. Be consistent in yr nutrition n training. I will somehow say long term (say a month or two) on 1200 calories wrecked yr body metabolic rate. A sudden shift from say 2000 calorie n no exercise to 1200 calorie n 5 days gym will for sure help initially then plauteau. It may seem like a counter movement, but i suggest yo up yr calories, reduce gym days. Reset for a week or two then slowly add up again. Fat loss is a very dynamic process. Make sure in yr arsenal an array of tools. When one work, keep going till plateau or slows down, then add another strategy.

Example: reduce calorie 200 n cardio once a week. Plateau, reduce to 300 n up cardio twice a week. Plateau, calorie stays the same, one liss n one hiit. Variation of arsenal available is necessary to acheive yr goals. Going too fast too furious n u will run out of arsenal very soon. Take it from a guy (me) who had lost 25kg this past 6 months n keeping it off till now.

Ps: workout u mentioned are normal, i say select any that you can adhere to.
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Thank you so much. At the moment I am really scared to gain weight so I am not willing to let go of gym days but will try upping my food intake. If that doesn't work then I will reset and follow your advice. I appreciate it though, so thank you again.
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post Sep 7 2016, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 7 2016, 11:48 AM)
possibly, but 600gms is too minute and not worth the time to really measure.
one can lose 2kg just in water from body...or 300gms just from going to toilet tongue.gif

as for calories...i think that machine is grossly over-estimating.
u should get / borrow a HRM from someone, preferably from garmin or mio, then see what it says in terms of calories burnt.
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Hmm....maybe that's it. I'll get one and report back when I do. Thank you.
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post Sep 7 2016, 11:59 AM

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Recently saw this video.

Hope it's helpful.




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post Sep 8 2016, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Sep 7 2016, 11:59 AM)
Recently saw this video.

Hope it's helpful.



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Reads the title and it's scooby, lol no thanks.

Cardio is just a tool nothing else.

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post Sep 8 2016, 08:17 AM

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well depends on what you do in the gym and what your goal(s) is/are.

and dont be too rigid with what the scale reads.
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post Sep 8 2016, 08:21 AM

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Can anyone tell me the normal daily calorie intake for 25 yr old man to keep the weight?
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post Sep 8 2016, 08:23 AM

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Sometimes when u weight daily, the difference you see might be just water loss from body so it's no accurate. It's better to weight yourself like once every 2 weeks or once a month.

Example, on the same day I weight at morning is xx KG but when I weight at night it's XX+2 KG. I was thinking how the hell I can gain 2KG in just 1 day @@
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QUOTE(TreyLey @ Sep 8 2016, 08:21 AM)
Can anyone tell me the normal daily calorie intake for 25 yr old man to keep the weight?
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You are a fking grown man. Still need spoon feeding. Everyone has a different maintenance TDEE.

Go Google TDEE calculator.
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post Sep 8 2016, 09:45 AM

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weight is not accurate measure of fitness.

the more muscle u build, the heavier u will weigh.

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post Sep 8 2016, 01:30 PM

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Huh? Since when 1 pound of muscle is heavier than 1 pound of fat?
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post Sep 8 2016, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(laucy.my @ Sep 7 2016, 11:05 AM)
1. I don't know how much it is on weights days but on cardio days about 800-900 calories which I see on the screen.
2. Weights too.
3. I drink about 1.5L of green tea (2 tea bags in  massive tin cup) and 1.5L plain water daily. That should be enough, no?
4. Eat above and gain weight. I'm scared now. Maybe the weight gain is temporary and I need to do it for longer. Will try for a week see how it goes.
5. After a month ish? Is it possible?

Thank you everyone for replying. Can someone also please have a look at the workout on the link and let me know what you think? Thank you! smile.gif
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Eat above BMR will not make you gain weight, eat above TDEE will.
BMR = energy that keep you alive
TDEE = BMR + energy used for exercise, walk, run, move

QUOTE(laucy.my @ Sep 7 2016, 11:43 AM)
I thought if I based the measurements at the same time on the same machine then it would be alright. Like if it is out by 600g then it'll be consistently out by 600g, no?

Also regarding the calories, it's about 650 calories for 30 mins on cardio wave machine and 200 calories on cross trainer. Sometimes I get bored of cross trainer so I mix it up with bike or full incline speed walking but I always start with cardio wave machine because it burns the most calories per minute for me. Trainer wants me to burn at least 1000 calories every cardio session so he already isn't satisfied with what I am doing.
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WTF?!! ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
Your TDEE is 2209 and BMR is 1607 and you eat only 1200
1200 - 1000(cardio) = 200, 200 is the energy you have to keep yourself alive and you need at least 1607 daily.
Wonder how you're still alive hmm.gif
Do you actually get your number correct?

QUOTE(bafukie @ Sep 8 2016, 01:30 PM)
Huh? Since when 1 pound of muscle is heavier than 1 pound of fat?
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Since never, who told you that?

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post Sep 11 2016, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Sep 6 2016, 01:55 PM)
That's very low even for a woman.

I'd die of hunger. LOL.

Even my BMR rate is like 1800-1900 and I'm a girl.
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Thats exaggerating

Human can survive 2 weeks with no food just water

No body will die on 1200 calories.
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post Sep 11 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(laucy.my @ Sep 6 2016, 11:46 PM)
I am hoping to lose 1kg a week. Now i am at a rate of about 200g if at all, a week. I just don't understand why it isn't working. The moment I go about 1700 calories I start gaining weight. It doesn't make any sense at all because I've read many threads basically pointing to weight loss as calories in < calories burned. I am going under AND I don't up my calories on training days either.
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Understand the law of diminishing point, you wont lose weight steadily 1kg every single week. It will get harder as you lose more weight even if you done everything right which is impossible because everything, EVERY calculation regarding calories are just closest estimation at best, from the amount of calories you burn, to the amount of calories you eat, are all close estimation and no 100% accurate, and also many factors to count in like your metabolism, body type, current muscle mass, fat mass etc etc etc.


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post Sep 11 2016, 01:13 PM

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Cardio?

Jogging for 1 hour, 2-3 times a week helps.



Be patient.

Take it slow.

There's no shortcut.

2kg in a month is a lot but as long as it does not harm your health, it's ok.

0.500 grams - 1kg a month is good enough.


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post Sep 11 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Sep 11 2016, 12:48 PM)
Thats exaggerating

Human can survive 2 weeks with no food just water

No body will die on 1200 calories.
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Dude. Just a Figure of speech alright. Seriously. Face palm.
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post Sep 15 2016, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(Duckies @ Sep 8 2016, 08:23 AM)
Sometimes when u weight daily, the difference you see might be just water loss from body so it's no accurate. It's better to weight yourself like once every 2 weeks or once a month.

Example, on the same day I weight at morning is xx KG but when I weight at night it's XX+2 KG. I was thinking how the hell I can gain 2KG in just 1 day @@
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That is true but I weigh myself every day at the same time under as close a condition as I can make it. I also stop my food intake at the same time each day. Once you weigh yourself consistently for a few months you start to have a feeling for what your body is like. I am not saying it's good though. It is definitely something I am trying to make myself do less. Almost like an addiction really.

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