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 low spec new mazda 3 vs new civic?, safety, value worth, nvh comfy, handling

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post Sep 21 2016, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(demetry @ Sep 21 2016, 11:32 AM)
civic interior quality mmg crappy dong dong. if new civic has interior quality like m3, i would buy civic with my eyes closed. laugh.gif

and yes, the coming m3 is really looking good.
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agree civic is the best in this category , other cant keep up unless new ones comes up..
get your civic quick, long waiting list biggrin.gif, but if ready stock M3 should be plenty avail
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post Sep 21 2016, 09:42 PM

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I know M3 is direct injection engine. What about current Civic 1.5 Turbo Engine? Still normal fuel injection?
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post Sep 21 2016, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(limsc07 @ Sep 21 2016, 09:42 PM)
I know M3 is direct injection engine. What about current Civic 1.5 Turbo Engine? Still normal fuel injection?
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Civic 1.5 turbo uses direct injection now IINM..

EDIT: Electronic fuel injection..

This post has been edited by Nick Zelos: Sep 21 2016, 10:00 PM
freedom11
post Sep 22 2016, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(irmo @ Sep 21 2016, 11:48 AM)
strongly agreed..
imo the back not just that too radical..it's now looks boring and uglier then prev model.
FD is still the best looking civic. don't flame me..it just my 20 cents.
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thumbup.gif Now u mentioned it, it is indeed Uglier than previous model FB. Not to mention some even add on a tiny little Spoiler on top....Fugly.
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post Sep 22 2016, 09:40 AM

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I was considering Mazda3 new car last year but right when I open and saw the leg room at the back I'll not pick this car.
It's because I have a kid and I feel pity to the back passengers to sit in such cramp space.
So really if a family car, Civic is the better choice.

For fun drive Mazda3.

You can't have best of both.

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post Sep 22 2016, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Sep 22 2016, 09:40 AM)
I was considering Mazda3 new car last year but right when I open and saw the leg room at the back I'll not pick this car.
It's because I have a kid and I feel pity to the back passengers to sit in such cramp space.
So really if a family car, Civic is the better choice.

For fun drive Mazda3.

You can't have best of both.
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you can. buy mazda 6 biggrin.gif
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post Sep 22 2016, 11:29 AM

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just read that new hyundai elantra turbo is coming soon. on paper, it beats m3 and civic
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post Sep 22 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Sep 22 2016, 11:29 AM)
just read that new hyundai elantra turbo is coming soon. on paper, it beats m3 and civic
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Malaysia will never bring in that model. Even the veloster turbo in malaysia uses the lousier spec engine rather than the 200PS. No one buys it and now have 30k rebate... hilarious

Current Mazda 3 in malaysia is a old model. So it is pointless to compare it with the new civic

The new mazda 3 however have THe new G-Vectoring Control system

It is not much to be honest. The price will definitely hike if they bring in that system

I would still go for civic though but it is personal reference. Each of them have their goodies ... so basically in the end.. go for test drive.



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QUOTE(Eternalgl0ry @ Sep 22 2016, 12:00 PM)
Malaysia will never bring in that model. Even the veloster turbo in malaysia uses the lousier spec engine rather than the 200PS. No one buys it and now have 30k rebate... hilarious
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what i heard is they will detune the spec to around 180ps and this will replace the current 1.8


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post Sep 22 2016, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(freedom11 @ Sep 22 2016, 09:27 AM)
thumbup.gif Now u mentioned it, it is indeed Uglier than previous model FB. Not to mention some even add on a tiny little Spoiler on top....Fugly.
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Same goes for m3..very outdated look now tbh
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post Sep 22 2016, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Nick Zelos @ Sep 21 2016, 09:57 PM)
Civic 1.5 turbo uses direct injection now IINM..

EDIT: Electronic fuel injection..
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Sorry but the honda wrote a mistake in their spec list. The 1.5 turbo is Direct injection and a global engine used in other countries. Only the ECU is different .. that is why a lot people go for racechip tuning
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post Sep 22 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(demetry @ Sep 22 2016, 11:22 AM)
you can. buy mazda 6 biggrin.gif
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If budget not a concern I'd go for BMW 7 series lo.
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post Nov 16 2016, 08:21 PM

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I was in this predicament. Essentially, was considering the mid-spec Civic and the Mazda3 high spec(?) as they're roughly the same price. Test drove both back to back in Glenmarie where there's a Honda & Maazda showroon side by side. Here's my dua sen:

Looks: Civic looks good from the front, but fugly dead on from the rear. Overall, I think the Mazda looks better.
Build quality: Fit and finish on the Mazda is also class leading, clearly ahead of the Civic, even though the Civic is much better than the previous generation. Look at the panel gaps and the plastics in the lower parts of the cabin. That's what gives it away. I also prefer the way the Mazda's Interior looks.
Drive: This is where it comes down to preference. Handling around corners, Mazda wins hands down. It also has a much sharper throttle response. Car feels very darty, very agile, beats the Civic even when the latter is is 'S' mode. Then again, the Civic has it trumped when it comes to mid-speed acceleration. The Civic also rides better. Suspension is not as harsh and a lot more compliant on most of our Malaysian roads. In other words, the Mazda will be the more fun car to drive up Genting. But KL -> Penang on cruise control at highway speeds, Civic for the win.
NVH: Civic wins, although I should say its more a situation of Mazda losing than Honda winning. Tire roar from the higher spec Mazda3 is terrible although this may be mitigated if you get the lower spec-ed one with 16 inch shoes. Owner forums also found improvements after the swapped out the stock 18 inch tires.
Equipment levels: I'd say they're about the same. Mazda comes with all the safety stuff (ie. Lane watch etc.) and Honda has Carplay/Android auto to play with, which is nice.
Space: This one, Honda takes the cake la obviously. The rear leg room is significantly better. Downside is the Civic's rear seats don't fold down. So you might want to consider that.
FC: Shouldn't be much between them I think.

TL;DR... Mazda 3 is sportier, more fun drive. Civic is more comfy, progressive.

I settled on the Civic though. Main reason is it would be a better car for my purposes (ie. more city/highway driving vs Genting sprints). So, I would urge you to drive both and decide which you prefer in the long run. smile.gif




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post Nov 17 2016, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Sep 22 2016, 09:40 AM)
I was considering Mazda3 new car last year but right when I open and saw the leg room at the back I'll not pick this car.
It's because I have a kid and I feel pity to the back passengers to sit in such cramp space.
So really if a family car, Civic is the better choice.

For fun drive Mazda3.

You can't have best of both.
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Wow, your kid must be huge size! I have yet to hear a complaint from any of my passengers sitting at the back of my Mazda 3, even from my 5'-10" teenage son but then again we are just normal people.
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post Nov 18 2016, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(ckseong80 @ Sep 22 2016, 09:40 AM)
I was considering Mazda3 new car last year but right when I open and saw the leg room at the back I'll not pick this car.
It's because I have a kid and I feel pity to the back passengers to sit in such cramp space.
So really if a family car, Civic is the better choice.

For fun drive Mazda3.

You can't have best of both.
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Front passenger seats in Mazda can be push back very far to the rear (at least in Mazda 2 vs. Honda City), hence creating an illusion that rear leg space is almost non-existence. I tried Honda City and the front seat push back is much shorter compared to Mazda 2. I always push back further while driving alone or with front passengers (very laid back style driving), but readjust when there are rear passengers.
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post Nov 19 2016, 12:55 AM

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My way to test leg room is setting my optimal driver seat position, then check out the rear seat leg room. I can't get into mazda3 rear seat... focus too.

A wheelbase of 2.7m will usually give good leg room..
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post Nov 19 2016, 09:10 AM

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Family men with growing kids will usually choose Civic. Those with kids who are still pre-school or grown up are more likely to choose Mazda 3. You may say it's leg room but I think it's more to do with psychology - a safe choice vs. a more adventurous choice.
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post Nov 19 2016, 10:16 AM

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Does the Mazda3 now has the color option of soul red
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post Nov 20 2016, 12:15 PM

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if u wan second hand value then go for honda and toyota ..other brand no need think

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