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post Nov 27 2008, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(amirbashah @ Sep 25 2008, 01:54 PM)
No one mention anything about lemongrass (serai) in this thread. In my opinion, it's a good business. First of all, you can do it as a part time job. Moreover the return is quite high (Around RM8k-RM10k per acre) and it only takes 6-8 months to grow. There's a lot of blog/website discussing about the topic. I'm planning to do it myself and will integrate it with my gaharu trees smile.gif
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So now you have mention it, congratulations & thank you. Mind to share with us where to find the lemon grass? IINM, there is 2 types of lemongrass, one is for cosmetics or medication purpose and another one used in F&B. Which one is better in term of cultivation, RoI, etc etc.?

QUOTE(yehlai @ Oct 30 2008, 04:36 PM)
Hi guys, dont know where to post this. Im really sad now. Yesterday went for my 2nd interview for Palm Oil trader position in a EU company. I was one of the 2 finalist, but yesterday was nervous, i screw it  sad.gif  really sad, im doing good in the 1st interview, now i dint get the job  sad.gif really sad.
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Im sorry for you man, I can help nothing but one thing for sure, there will be better prospects in the future for a man with great patience like you. smile.gif
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can i noe any1 who has tank / ponds ?
to breed fish...

im jz wondering those fish shop where do they get their supply of fish..
those ornamental fish.. not makan punya fish...

those supplier breed them or wad ?
hv some interest in breeding them though.
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Hi guys, would like to enquiry,
for now, which is the better field to join in Malaysia,
Palm Oil or Animal Feed industry? In marketing positions.

For me, both are good and also have some cons too, IMHO
Oil palm price now is plunged and have to cut production massively to avoid further price drop.
Animal feed's market might be saturated? Or maybe im wrong ?

Kindly advice please. smile.gif

This post has been edited by yehlai: Dec 5 2008, 06:56 PM
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Is anyone into goat farming?
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I am!

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post Jan 3 2009, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(ROTiJOHN @ Sep, 01:13 PM)
Hi there, long time no reply here, I had started to rare tigerworm since last month. And i think the worm quite healthy there.Anyone interested can tell me, i will show you the pics..HEHE
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Hi Guys,

I'm new here! Can share with me more info for the worm farming?
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post Jan 4 2009, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 5 2008, 06:45 PM)
Hi guys, would like to enquiry,
for now, which is the better field to join in Malaysia,
Palm Oil or Animal Feed industry? In marketing positions. 

For me, both are good and also have some cons too, IMHO
Oil palm price now is plunged and have to cut production massively to avoid further price drop.
Animal feed's market might be saturated? Or maybe im wrong ?   

Kindly advice please.  smile.gif
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no one in oil palm/animal feed company?
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post Jan 18 2009, 12:34 PM

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commercial feed... small scale? unless u intend to compete with goldcoin, cargill etc....

my exp regarding commercial feed... 3 years ago a 50kg sack of layer feed for khaki campbell costs rm50.50... now it costs rm98. in other words its a lucrative business even as a broker or middlemen.

IF you have your own formulation of feed (it would be better if you specialize what sort of feed and for what husbandry)... it would be good to go small scale... for example if you have say 5,000 ducks... you brew up your own mixture and make pellets... the extra pellets can be sold to other rearers. that is of course assuming you have a steady supply of cheap raw material.

i'll share an example... say in terengganu... there is an almost endless supply of fishbone and head... by products of the keropok lekor industry. you can get them for a minimal amount and regularly. plus hampas kelapa from the local wet market, plus beras hancur and jagung hancur... you can make a pretty good layer feed for ducks (egg laying ducks). theoretically it could cut feed costs by 70%. the question is.... preparation method + ratio of raw material. not many people will share such formulas. large scale producers use bloody big mixers and an ISO and sirim certified process. quality assurance.

to tell the truth, i have no idea how farmers survive in the current situation. >.<

palm oil... i have no relevant background. but i do know one must be prepared mentally, physically and have enough knowledge and technical expertise before jumping into agriculture. clearing of land... conditioning of soil by planting legume type plants... etc... be well prepared. and the gains don't come until years after pouring the initial capital. all the best.




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Should encourage more organic farming, for valued added export.
Govt. Authorities should encourage and play a bigger role here for newcomers and ventures.
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how can i get land for agriculture ?
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QUOTE(makinglife @ Jan 20 2009, 05:17 PM)
how can i get land for agriculture ?
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apply with Felda? you're into plantation? what crop? laugh.gif

This post has been edited by yehlai: Jan 20 2009, 05:30 PM
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post Jan 21 2009, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan, 05:29 PM)
apply with Felda? you're into plantation? what crop?  laugh.gif
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hmm.gif you sure? How to apply?
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post Jan 22 2009, 09:48 AM

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i think lemon is a good business.... i am not bumi... can get land ?
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post Jan 22 2009, 11:54 AM

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Happy new year everybody, and welcome back for reviving this tread smile.gif

QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 5 2008, 06:45 PM)
Hi guys, would like to enquiry,
for now, which is the better field to join in Malaysia,
Palm Oil or Animal Feed industry? In marketing positions. 

For me, both are good and also have some cons too, IMHO
Oil palm price now is plunged and have to cut production massively to avoid further price drop.
Animal feed's market might be saturated? Or maybe im wrong ?   

Kindly advice please.  smile.gif
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Palm Oil vs Animal Feed, Imho, if you have good source of cheap raw material, as well as the recipe, Animal Feed is gonna beat Palm oil.

Animal feed, is mainly locally consumed, in fact, we need to import raw material to make animal feed, and the price of animal feed will directly affect all the meat industry in the country, it is something that on demand, why not? The palleting machine and large mixer would cost a considerable initial investment, not to mention the proper recipe of animal feed, technology, technique of how to process the grains and feed(it seem like a great deal of effort is made to prevent fungus).

Although palm oil is a little dim nowadays, please note that it is still a very important commodities, it is something that has a long term demand. Perhaps the price now is low, 18 months later, its gonna be a different story, people who gave up 18 months ago will be damn regrete.

However, our palm oil industry is pretty heavily taxed, first, the fruit are being taxed, then the mills being taxed, and then, the CPO being taxed as well, and finally you got taxed again by exporting them... it is considered pretty rare in agriculture industry as some countries like US actually subsidize their agriculture production.

QUOTE(svtwkf @ Jan 3 2009, 11:58 PM)
Hi Guys,

I'm new here! Can share with me more info for the worm farming?
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What worm farming you want? They are all over the internet!

Or carefully dig thru this thread.

QUOTE(niuchin @ Jan 18 2009, 01:06 PM)
Should encourage more organic farming, for valued added export.
Govt. Authorities should encourage and play a bigger role here for newcomers and ventures.
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True, there are some assistane provided for new venturers, but for anybody who know nearly nothing about agriculture, its pretty confusing about where should you start with.

QUOTE(makinglife @ Jan 20 2009, 05:17 PM)
how can i get land for agriculture ?
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Read newspaper or find realty, purchase one.

Easier way is find an isolated corner, or TNB pillar, fence the whole place and start turning soil.

QUOTE(yehlai @ Jan 20 2009, 05:29 PM)
apply with Felda? you're into plantation? what crop?  laugh.gif
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Felda only for bumiputera, furthermore, even if you are bumi, it is encouraged to be a little bit more independence, and it really means nothing to you even if you can get 10-20 acres of isolated land to "jaga" and know nothing about it.

They repeatedly touting "Pertanian adalah perniagaan", yeah rite, I give you a shop and a badge, and you think you are doing business. Business is something that involved actions, not just brain activity.

QUOTE(makinglife @ Jan 22 2009, 09:48 AM)
i think lemon is a good business.... i am not bumi... can get land ?
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There is high demand for limau(those mamak stall use to make limau ais), easy to plant, but they are highly prone to disease.

The local green lemon is highly priced and have a pretty good demand too.

Read above reply, there is no free lunch in this world, even if there is any land to apply, you have to know which department to go to, lots of time to spare, careful enough not to disturb their afternoon teabreak, etetetetc.

Up to this point MOST of the small scale farmers in this country is farming on illegal land, a sad fact indeed. And they blame we are not utilizing their service and facility, sigh.

This post has been edited by rexis: Jan 22 2009, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(rexis @ Jan 22 2009, 11:54 AM)
Happy new year everybody, and welcome back for reviving this tread smile.gif
Palm Oil vs Animal Feed, Imho, if you have good source of cheap raw material, as well as the recipe, Animal Feed is gonna beat Palm oil.

Animal feed, is mainly locally consumed, in fact, we need to import raw material to make animal feed, and the price of animal feed will directly affect all the meat industry in the country, it is something that on demand, why not? The palleting machine and large mixer would cost a considerable initial investment, not to mention the proper recipe of animal feed, technology, technique of how to process the grains and feed(it seem like a great deal of effort is made to prevent fungus).

Although palm oil is a little dim nowadays, please note that it is still a very important commodities, it is something that has a long term demand. Perhaps the price now is low, 18 months later, its gonna be a different story, people who gave up 18 months ago will be damn regrete.

However, our palm oil industry is pretty heavily taxed, first, the fruit are being taxed, then the mills being taxed, and then, the CPO being taxed as well, and finally you got taxed again by exporting them... it is considered pretty rare in agriculture industry as some countries like US actually subsidize their agriculture production.
What worm farming you want? They are all over the internet!

Or carefully dig thru this thread.
True, there are some assistane provided for new venturers, but for anybody who know nearly nothing about agriculture, its pretty confusing about where should you start with.
Read newspaper or find realty, purchase one.

Easier way is find an isolated corner, or TNB pillar, fence the whole place and start turning soil.
Felda only for bumiputera, furthermore, even if you are bumi, it is encouraged to be a little bit more independence, and it really means nothing to you even if you can get 10-20 acres of isolated land to "jaga" and know nothing about it.

They repeatedly touting "Pertanian adalah perniagaan", yeah rite, I give you a shop and a badge, and you think you are doing business. Business is something that involved actions, not just brain activity.
There is high demand for limau(those mamak stall use to make limau ais), easy to plant, but they are highly prone to disease.

The local green lemon is highly priced and have a pretty good demand too.

Read above reply, there is no free lunch in this world, even if there is any land to apply, you have to know which department to go to, lots of time to spare, careful enough not to disturb their afternoon teabreak, etetetetc.

Up to this point MOST of the small scale farmers in this country is farming on illegal land, a sad fact indeed. And they blame we are not utilizing their service and facility, sigh.
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rclxm9.gif Awaresome! One shot repplied so many question! Actually i look thru all thread and just wanna know how you guy start.
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post Feb 19 2009, 08:18 PM

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I want to apply land/loan from MARA. Is there anyone can borrow me their proposal aquaculture? Proposal land not big, somewhere 1-2 acres or maybe 2-3 acres. Small aquaculture first.

Capital around 200-300k. Im newbie but I love agriculture/aquaculture. Very profitable and have bright future better than working with people.

This post has been edited by uk9089: Feb 19 2009, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(NelsonBoy @ Nov 29 2008, 12:49 AM)
can i noe any1 who has tank / ponds ?
to breed fish...

im jz wondering those fish shop where do they get their supply of fish..
those ornamental fish.. not makan punya fish...

those supplier breed them or wad ?
hv some interest in breeding them though.
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Some small scales supplier do their own breeding and growing to marketable sizes. Usually easy to bred angel fish/discus/fantails etc.

Exoctic suppliers usually go for wild caught fishes, esp. the ones native to malaysia. For example, in borneo, Wild Betta from Merudi or from Brunei is categorised as exotic fish and a pair could cost outsiders USD300-500 for a pair. neogastromyzones aka borneo suckers from kapit and northern regions can cost up to USD200 a pair.

Most common exotic fish are arowarnas.

Bigger enterprises ussually have their own farm (Just google/yahoo tropical freshwater fish supplier in malaysia).
And most ornamental fish seller get their supplies from these people. Famous supplier are such as International Aquatics, aquariumfishexporter or Banli and etc.

Hope this helps.


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post Apr 29 2009, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(mamba @ Nov 27 2008, 03:24 PM)
So now you have mention it, congratulations & thank you. Mind to share with us where to find the lemon grass? IINM, there is 2 types of lemongrass, one is for cosmetics or medication purpose and another one used in F&B. Which one is better in term of cultivation, RoI, etc etc.?
Im sorry for you man, I can help nothing but one thing for sure, there will be better prospects in the future for a man with great patience like you. smile.gif
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Hi guys, I'm new here. Here pasted an interesting article on lemon grass... Hope you enjoy it.


Fresh Lemon Grass Drink Causes Apoptosis to Cancer Cells

(apoptosis) noun: a type of cell death in which the cell uses specialized cellular machinery to kill itself; a cell suicide mechanism that enables metazoans to control cell number and eliminate cells that threaten the animal's survival.


Fresh lemon grass fields in Israel become Mecca for cancer patients

By Allison Kaplan Sommer April 02, 2006


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A drink with as little as one gram of lemon grass contains enough citral to prompt cancer cells to commit suicide in the test tube.

Israeli researchers find way to make cancer cells self-destruct -Ben Gurion University

At first, Benny Zabidov, an Israeli agriculturalist who grows greenhouses full of lush spices on a pastoral farm in Kfar Yedidya in the Sharon region, couldn't understand why so many cancer patients from around the country were showing up on his doorstep asking for fresh lemon grass. It turned out that their doctors had sent them. 'They had been told to drink eight glasses of hot water with fresh lemon grass steeped in it on the days that they went for their radiation and chemotherapy treatments,' Zabidov told ISRAEL21c. 'And this is the place you go to in Israel for fresh lemon grass.'

It all began when researchers at Ben Gurion University of the Negev discovered last year that the lemon aroma in herbs like lemon grass kills cancer cells in vitro, while leaving healthy cells unharmed. The research team was led by Dr. Rivka Ofir and Prof. Yakov Weinstein, incumbent of the Albert Katz Chair in Cell-Differentiation and Malignant Diseases, from the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at BGU.



Citral is the key component that gives the lemony aroma and taste in several herbal plants such as lemon grass (Cymbopogon citratus), melissa (Melissa officinalis) and verbena (Verbena officinalis.)


According to Ofir, the study found that citral causes cancer cells to 'commit suicide: using apoptosis, a mechanism called programmed cell death.' A drink with as little as one gram of lemon grass contains enough citral to prompt the cancer cells to commit suicide in the test tube.


The BGU investigators checked the influence of the citral on cancerous cells by adding them to both cancerous cells and normal cells that were grown in a petri dish. The quantity added in the concentrate was equivalent to the amount contained in a cup of regular tea using one gram of lemon herbs in hot water. While the citral killed the cancerous cells, the normal cells remained unharmed.


The findings were published in the scientific journal Planta Medica, which highlights research on alternative and herbal remedies. Shortly afterwards, the discovery was featured in the popular Israeli press.



Why does it work? Nobody knows for certain, but the BGU scientists have a theory. 'In each cell in our body, there is a genetic program which causes programmed cell death. When something goes wrong, the cells divide with no control and become cancer cells. In normal cells, when the cell discovers that the control system is not operating correctly - for example, when it recognizes that a cell contains faulty genetic material following cell division - it triggers cell death,' explains Weinstein. 'This research may explain the medical benefit of these herbs.'



The success of their research led them to the conclusion that herbs containing citral may be consumed as a preventative measure against certain cancerous cells. As they learned of the BGU findings in the press, many physicians in Israel began to believe that while the research certainly needed to be explored further, in the meantime it would be advisable for their patients, who were looking for any possible tool to fight their condition, to try to harness the cancer-destroying properties of citral.



That's why Zabidov's farm - the only major grower of fresh lemon grass in Israel - has become a pilgrimage destination for these patients. Luckily, they found themselves in sympathetic hands. Zabidov greets visitors with a large kettle of aromatic lemon grass tea, a plate of cookies, and a supportive attitude. 'My father died of cancer, and my wife's sister died young because of cancer,' said Zabidov. 'So I understand what they are dealing with. And I may not know anything about medicine, but I'm a good listener. And so they tell me about their expensive painful treatments and what they've been through. I would never tell them to stop being treated, but it's great that they are exploring alternatives and drinking the lemon grass tea as well.'

Zabidov knew from a young age that agriculture was his calling. At age 14, he enrolled in the Kfar Hayarok Agricultural high school.. After his army service, he joined an idealistic group which headed south, in the Arava desert region, to found a new moshav (agricultural settlement) called Tsofar. 'We were very successful; we raised fruits and vegetables, and,' he notes with a smile, 'We raised some very nice children.'



On a trip to Europe in the mid-80s, he began to become interested in herbs. Israel, at the time, was nothing like the trend-conscious cuisine-oriented country it is today, and the only spices being grown commercially were basics like parsley, dill, and coriander. Wandering in the Paris market, looking at the variety of herbs and spices, Zabidov realized that there was a great export potential in this niche. He brought samples back home with him, 'which was technically illegal,' he says with a guilty smile, to see how they would grow in his desert greenhouses. Soon, he was growing basil, oregano, tarragon, chives, sage, marjoram and melissa, and mint just to name a few.


His business began to outgrow his desert facilities, and so he decided to move north, settling in the moshav of Kfar Yedidya, an hour and a half north of Tel Aviv. He is now selling 'several hundred kilos' of lemon grass per week, and has signed with a distributor to package and put it in health food stores. Zabidov has taken it upon himself to learn more about the properties of citral, and help his customers learn more, and has invited medical experts to his farm to give lectures about how the citral works and why.



He also felt a responsibility to know what to tell his customers about its use. 'When I realized what was happening, I picked up the phone and called Dr. Weinstein at Ben-Gurion University, because these people were asking me exactly the best way to consume the citral. He said to put the loose grass in hot water, and drink about eight glasses each day.'


Zabidov is pleased by the findings, not simply because it means business for his farm, but because it might influence his own health. Even before the news of its benefits were demonstrated, he and his family had been drinking lemon grass in hot water for years, 'just because it tastes good.'


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hi. I'm new here and i'm also a fresh grad. had a degree in agrotechnology. agriculture is definitely a gd business. however, i'm wondering what career opportunities i hv... cn anybody here give me some pointers and suggestions? thanks so much. all ur help will be very much appreciated.
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can i invest my energy ?

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