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phas3r
post Aug 31 2016, 03:37 PM

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Go top business school overseas
200-400k rm yo


I know a top performer in petronas who got sponsored for mba in oxford. Damn syiok

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post Aug 31 2016, 03:53 PM

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I know a just graduated guy from Wharton Business School (where Trump, Elon Musk and Warren Buffett study) get a starting pay of RM8000.

Apparently its actually low salary because its Malaysia
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post Aug 31 2016, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Wanie404 @ Aug 31 2016, 09:50 AM)
Bincangkan.
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Worlds best mba school just few hours away in Singapore. Malaysia MBA can masuk tong sampah
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post Aug 31 2016, 05:05 PM

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U need better qualification than degree if want move up to senior Mgr role. My boss advised me to take MBA majoring in finance for Snr manager position.
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post Aug 31 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(KimiLau @ Aug 31 2016, 10:23 AM)
Agree.....Hmm, getting a master degree is useless in the short run for junior executive/ fresh grad

But it is important when you are moving up the corporate ladder ....example 2 candidates for management/manager position, same work experience and performance,
THEN having a MBA will be an advantage as well as boot licking
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But first, compare yrself among jr.exec before dream further. That will easily cost u about 4 to 5 years, with condition:

1. Fed up and jump ship bcos covservative management/that fker dint retire/that fker dint left as promised/no opening for u

2. U did not perform against that diploma qualifier

3. Ur performance is not on par with yr MBA. Wait, what uni MBA again?

4. There is better candidate than u

5. Best deal from yr MBA qualification is DEAL WITH IT.

I ask for forgiveness if u find it insulting. Cheers and gd luck

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post Aug 31 2016, 05:38 PM

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when i got mine..company give me salary adjustment 1k a month after i got my mba...break even the cost after 25 month wroking lol....
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post Aug 31 2016, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(TheMasterDebater @ Aug 31 2016, 05:40 PM)
I shit you not... you go around ask those CEOs see if they know wtf is INSEAD... and they would rather praise some dude graduated from Uni of East London in UK than the guy who studied INSEAD from singapore
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sad but true lol

if u tell any managers about INSEAD, they would blink at u as if what unknown low ranking institution is that when it's one of the best business schools in the world.
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post Aug 31 2016, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(milky12388 @ Aug 31 2016, 03:13 PM)
if u working in government sector then yes
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how so elaborate
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Aug 31 2016, 05:11 PM)
But first, compare yrself among jr.exec before dream further. That will easily cost u about 4 to 5 years, with condition:

1. Fed up and jump ship bcos covservative management/that fker dint retire/that fker dint left as promised/no opening for u

2. U did not perform against that diploma qualifier

3. Ur performance is not on par with yr MBA. Wait, what uni MBA again?

4. There is better candidate than u

5. Best deal from yr MBA qualification is DEAL WITH IT.

I ask for forgiveness if u find it insulting. Cheers and gd luck
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HMM, TALK LIKE THAT YOU WIN LIAO LOR..... IF PERFORMANCE NOT GOOD PHD ALSO NO USE

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post Aug 31 2016, 08:21 PM

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I think only a small handful of local U's have 1 or 2 Crowns from one the top 3 business schools.
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(TheMasterDebater @ Aug 31 2016, 05:36 PM)
No one knows bro... try asking most bosses.... they don't care if you are hallam ke uni of sheffield ke...UWE vs Bristol.... all are the same to them.

If it aint oxford cambridge or harvard.... all are the same to people who are not from the education industry.

There are too many uni in this world to keep track.

As long as they are legit uni can liao
I beg to differ on your last statement.... If i'm the HR, I would rather pick any post 92 UK uni (non twinning) than those lapsap UM/USM/UKM/UPM ..... main reason is because of our local uni standard has gone down to the shit... bloody lecturers uses Malay to translate when teaching....
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Are you in HR? If you are,then you should know that we mainly look at your working experience, your paper as long as meet the minimum requirements for the post enogh d, we don't care what uni unless ivy league different story la but the rest doesn't matter, UK ke, Malaysia ke, Zimbabwe ke,as long as our govt recognize then enough d.
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:33 PM

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post Aug 31 2016, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(scorptim @ Aug 31 2016, 08:31 PM)
Are you in HR? If you are,then you should know that we mainly look at your working experience, your paper as long as meet the minimum requirements for the post enogh d, we don't care what uni unless ivy league different story la but the rest doesn't matter, UK ke, Malaysia ke, Zimbabwe ke,as long as our govt recognize then enough d.
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LOCAL COMPANY MAY NOT CARE BUT SOME MNC DO CHECK WHICH UNI

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post Aug 31 2016, 08:38 PM

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My American cousin graduated from Columbia University in NYC in MBA. He got a lot of job offers haha
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:39 PM

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Degree useful yes. At least it help to get a job.
MBA tarak guna. Get only few hundred more than ppl who applied using degree. But wasted 2 years plus minus to get it done.

That 2 years experience can easily get increment worth 4 digits
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:42 PM

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i think first of all is the mentality of people who want to take MBA. nowadays youngsters is like quantifying everything. Wah he got a MBA, automatic switch to bank. Wah he got MBA confirm +RM3000 jump. Sorts of silly reasons like this. Totally no purpose and sense to take.
Some has no value in the person itself to even take MBA. Go class and all these shit only focus to finish up assignment and get that paper.

After beating that, only start thinking bout prestigious or not the MBA school, but mostly all crap schools around. Crap schools = most likely crap mentor or classmates just like urself, which can kiss goodbye the important experience of networking and sharing insights blablabla throughout the course
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:49 PM

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As employer I do not really care about MBA or similar paper qualification.

MBA holders do not have any advantage over non holders, IMHO. I actually know an MBA holder who is also a bankrupt.

Rather, hiring and consideration for promotion depends on 3 things, performance, performance and performance. If my employee took a year off and comes back with MBA and demands RM xxx extra just for the MBA, I would just tell him to get out and stay out.

However if my employee took a year off to Europe or someplace and comes back with multi million dollar business contacts and deals, I'd hug him and triple his salary and throw him a free Porsche to boot!
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post Aug 31 2016, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(KimiLau @ Aug 31 2016, 08:36 PM)
LOCAL COMPANY MAY NOT CARE BUT SOME MNC DO CHECK WHICH UNI
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On the contrary, im from MNC and we seriously do not care as long as you have the minimum required paper qualifications. Work experience is most important, we look at the type of company you work before, the size of the company etc...of course for fresh grads we do pay attention on the uni la. But 70% still based on your communication skills during interview.

QUOTE(TheMasterDebater @ Aug 31 2016, 08:40 PM)
"ivy league" say it like an american.

How many Ivy league uni can u name without googling?
Work exp is most important, however, most would prefer someone who had studied overseas before over local grad. I shit you not, the probability of overseas grad having better communication skills and being more pro-active is very much higher than local grads.
I'm not saying those who studied overseas for at least 1 year are automatically more vocal because some did not take any inivative to mingle around or participate when they were studying in overseas. However, majority are more pro active and have better English skills than local grad.
I've worked for 3 different companies and so far, those who actually DARE to do presentation during meetings or training activities are overseas grad while those local grads all sok chun and try to push to others to present.
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If you cant judge a persons communication skills during the interview itself, it just means your interviewer/recruiter sucks or your interview process itself sucks. If the interview is done properly by a good interviewer, you can pretty much know these things at the start itself.

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post Aug 31 2016, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(KimiLau @ Aug 31 2016, 08:19 PM)
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HMM, TALK LIKE THAT YOU WIN LIAO LOR..... IF PERFORMANCE NOT GOOD PHD ALSO NO USE
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Welcome to reality. Btw how many PHD actually enrolled to a job, or just attach to certain uni running their papers? Do yr research.
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post Aug 31 2016, 09:45 PM

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Rule of thumb

If you're looking into doing your masters, your goals is to migrate and get off from this deplorable country.

Look at all the negative replies here.

My thoughts mate, do it, its better to be overly qualified, it'll put you on the upper edge against everyone else.

Ignore the negative sentiments from this morons.

Oh, for qualified answer, do open a thread under the education or job section of the forum.

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