you usually get a masters in order to APPLY for a new job which the employer has higher paper requirements. If you take masters and expect your current employer to promote you just cause you have upgraded your paper qualifications, then memang bodoh la like that, coz it will never happen.

Are you in HR? If you are,then you should know that we mainly look at your working experience, your paper as long as meet the minimum requirements for the post enogh d, we don't care what uni unless ivy league different story la but the rest doesn't matter, UK ke, Malaysia ke, Zimbabwe ke,as long as our govt recognize then enough d.

On the contrary, im from MNC and we seriously do not care as long as you have the minimum required paper qualifications. Work experience is most important, we look at the type of company you work before, the size of the company etc...of course for fresh grads we do pay attention on the uni la. But 70% still based on your communication skills during interview.

If you cant judge a persons communication skills during the interview itself, it just means your interviewer/recruiter sucks or your interview process itself sucks. If the interview is done properly by a good interviewer, you can pretty much know these things at the start itself.

Look, I say it doesn't matter because I judge your working experience (for those experienced one) and communication skills (for fresh grad). Like it or not im not doing this out of my own whim, its the employer's guidance, i'm supposed to hire a capable person for the job, im not supposed to hire the degree for the job. The employer would usually just specify what qualification is needed for a particular post, for example job a, need this and this degree, job b need MBA min for example, they did not mention it needs to be from which particular uni. Then they would mention the criteria/characteristic of the person they want to hire, this would be a more detailed and comprehensive list...so I just have to make sure you meet the paper requirements as per the guideline and the rest is to determine if you fit the criterias/characterictics required/

If your degree is from a really good university, but from your past experience, I see that you can't hold a job for long...I won't hire you, i'd rather hire someone with a degree from a shitty university but has a proven track record at Work.

Similarly, if you come from a top university, but during interview you only know how to give scripted answers for standard questions but can't answer questions that you are not prepared for on the fly, i'd rather hire someone from a third rate uni that can do that, because those are the skills the job requires, not the degree.

Assuming that both person from the good and shitty uni both have good previous employment record and for fresh grad both can communicate and present themselves equally well, then the next criteria is how much you are asking for, if the person from shitty uni is asking for rm500 lesser, i'd hire him instead. But lets say asking salary both are the same...only at this point i would look back at the degree and hire the one with the so called better degree. (reality hurts but we do have to keep our costs down and productivity up, when you start working you will realise this is the global trend right now)

your degree is not going to do the work...you are. Your university ranking is not gonna make money for the company, the quality and quantity of your work is what makes money for the company.

So don't assume just because you have a good degree people will hire you automatically, like I said the degree doesn't get the job done, the person does. So its good that you have a good degree, but if you think that guarantees you a job, without you putting the extra effort, commitment and hard work like everyone else, then you're daydreaming.

I answered that already right, if aptitude and experience constant, next goes to what salary ur asking, if both the same, then i'd look at the better degree...

neither, american MNC...obviously you're too oblivious to the fact that mnc accross the world are cost cutting now...if i can get a cheaper candidate that has equal experience and aptitute, why should i hire the more expensive one? Give me a reason pls...

again you are not reading my comments, if both same salary i'd take the one with the better degree, how many times do i have to repeat this? to be spcific if between zimbabwean and um, id take UM. Happy now?

i guess you're from one of those "Better" uni, but yet i had to repeat my point 3 times to get through to you...and im not sure if its getting through yet...

This post has been edited by scorptim: Sep 1 2016, 09:37 AM

again, i dont put anyone at the bottom of the pile, i judge the person, not where they studied. I put those who i find not qualified as a person at the bottom of the pile...not those who studied at xxx uni at bottom of the pile.

I've not seen people from ivy league talking rubish la, coz i've never had an ivy league candidate (sorry but UM is not an ivy league uni...thats a fact! if you think it is, then you don't know the definition of ivy league)