You guys totally missed my question...


Can i get a shirt too?

What did we missed?

FREEEEEE T-shirt to those who come for LAN gathering more than 5 times ONLY, bwahahahahahahhahahaha~

To those who wish to buy it out, pay RM 50 !!


Sanity Level : LOW

Legends:

Sanity: Trust him
OK: Trust him
LOW: Trust him, if you think what he said is logic
Insanity: Trust him, if you think it's OK to do so.

This post has been edited by TheNameX: Feb 23 2007, 11:07 AM

Com'on he is a patron of DOW too, btw didn he come more that 5 times?

i want the tshirts too
well both designs are good..but i prefer the black one..well thats just personal preference

well if we can only have one of the design with this logo on the back would also be cool



well just a suggestion.. anyway good job on the tshirt



and i still think sm dreadnoughts are better

This post has been edited by DarkFyre: Feb 23 2007, 11:06 AM

[quote=Waba,Feb 22 2007, 11:18 AM]
Are you fighting a fren on lan or opponents via net?
Anyway here is my take: If everything goes according to plan IG actually owns Tau in tier 1, that is, if you got everything running right.

Ordo Xenos Classified
Waba's guide to Anti Tau build for IG in Tier 1


Blasted grey skins pinned you down?
Time for boot camp!

I) Know the odds
Standardly speaking if both players are about the same level IG vs Tau is one of the worst match up for a new IG player, for your guardsman will melt in the face of fire warriors, some "advance skill" is required to even up the odds, lets see:

Here is how, for a standard IG BO in T1 you will have:

1 CS
3 GMs
1 or 2 Commissars
2 techpriest

Where as Tau might have

1 vespid (optional)
2~3 FW
1 TC (gonna be late if he goes vespid)
1 to 2 SS <--- zero threat except for ecomical in T1, ignored
2 Earthcaste <--- 0 threat, ignored

if Tau go kroots you wont have to worry about TC for some time.

Your insight into Imperial Guard tactics is very informative. My thanks on behalf of the mud sloggers among us who have but flashlights and T-shirts to deal with the horrors of the Warp and fell xenos.

Some questions though ...

The build in question seems very T1 heavy. The use of a turret (30 power), a fully kitted out Command Squad (100 power with 1 General and 2 Psykers), and 2 Commisars (80 power), require 210 units of power...almost doubling the delay to reach T2. This may require 2 or more generators and a more defensive build. Are you banking on an all out earlier offensive to sledgehammer the Tau to death? What of holding on and then cranking out HWTs and Chimera spam?

I've seen your earlier replay on Quest's Triumph. The defensive turret within two strategic points was an interesting tactic though wouldn't it be more expedient to put it closer to his base entrance? I've seen several other replays where they went for a double turret strategy and locked down both relics. Which would be a more tactically sound approach?

In a straight up fight - what are the odds with a fresh Vespid team and an IG squad with a Commisar ? Is it worth it to detach the commisar and give them 2 targets?

Indeed. The key is to defend yourself well so that the vespid do minimum dmg to your econ. So, delay in teching is undeniable, fortunately, if the tau go for vespid route, he will be delayed in teching as well, so not much worry on that. HWT is bugged, I wouldnt use it though. I prefer to get chimera or hh as tau AV is generally weak.

Depends on map, barricading tau with early turret is always not preferable due to the WTFOMGLOL range of fw. By having vespid in the frontline, two or three squad fw had no trouble taking care of your entire barricade. Plus you might worry the tau go fast tech to get the WTFOMGLOL TC's ML and fusion blaster which could just wipe out any vec and buildings in a minute. Tau econ hardly suffer in this scenario when in the hand of good micro-er due to SS.

That's proved that im a noob....... is this where u stop at 1400?? should try to make it higher..

btw.. can u put in something like "Dawn Of War Community".. so that ppl will know we are DOW players...

i vote for da 2nd one

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Added on February 23, 2007, 12:02 pmi suggest u put the anthology box picture .. wait a munite.. do we need to get permission 1st?? have to put something like © gameworkshop

This post has been edited by johnnycp: Feb 23 2007, 12:02 PM

Welcome, young Seer of Biel-Tan. I am Farseer Malla. For I will guide you to understand our race better so that you could be independence on your own. I apologize for raising you to the rank in such a sudden manner, but we have not much time left as the Great Enemy's minions drew near to our Craftworld at every moment we speak. Let's us go through our standard battlefield option quickly.

As a child to the God of War Khaine, we practice a standard battle option which we inherit from Khaine. This battle option ensures us highest chance of winning among the others battle option. Listen carefully and make sure you protect this secret like you protect your soul within your soulstone.


At the start:



1. Build a Aspect Portal with the 1st Bonesinger, shift build power gen.
2. Queue a BS, 2 Guardians squad, Fleet of Foot research
3. Had the 2nd BS to assists the 1st BS.
4. Start capping with the 2 GUs squad. Build LP when SP is capped.
5. Once the AP is ready, build ranger. Queue Infiltration research.
6. Once ranger is ready, overwatch them to full squad so that they could reach full effectiveness. Send them to start harass the enemy. Depends on map size, FoF research should be ready when your ranger is on the way to enemy base.
7. IMPORTANT: Once FoF is ready, make sure all your GUs squad had the FoF on so that they could travel faster from SP to SP.
8. Draw the GU squad to assists the ranger once they have finished capping.
9. Build a second gen when req is allowed. From this point on, you can consider upgrade your LP to LP1 when the req allow it. But do remember, if you plan to get all LP to LP1 first, you need more generator. Ideally to be at least 4.
10. As long as you micro well and protect your squad well, you should have excessive req right now. Stockpile req to build Soulshrine.
11. Build more BS to build another 2 more gen. DO NOT had more than 2 BS to build the SS as more than 2 BS on one building serve little purpose.




12. Once SS is ready, research Improved Optic and Reinforced Armor.
13. Build Support Portal.
14. Once SP is ready, build 2x Falcon. At the same time, build a webway.
15. When falcon is out, upgrade their weapon and fly them to frontline to enhance the harassing.
16. Build Warpspider stone in AP. Max out your gen and consider take the global req and power research. Build more webway.
17. Once WS stone is ready, build 3x WS. Always build the exarch first when the WS is ready. Send WS to start the killing.
18. From this point on, you are on your own. You could go for Wraithlord or advance to tier3.


We shall take a break and come back for other battle options that we had followed by specific foe battle options.

This post has been edited by TheNameX: Feb 23 2007, 12:12 PM

Nothing is comfirm at the moment, until Kong comes back with the production issues/pricing may be then the shirts can be ordered with the bulk

The idea is to have the rights to call the shot in the match, if you run this drill Tau will be forced to react, if he goes hard tech he would probably lose. If he managed to survived you would have probably captured two or more SPs than him. Lay down a few more turrets and tech up with your superior econ.

Trying to put a turret near to the tau base might sound nice but if the vespid sees it when it is coming will spell doom for all your plans


The guardsman will break if the vespid comes ccing you, it is better to let the officer deal with them while GM shoot for free. At tier 2 it is feasable to attached commissar to Gm as you can execute to make them fight harder, at tier 1 they are better off unattached in my experience.


When are you coming back WarBoss? And what do the rest of you say? Where is Bigga Warboss? Deep striked?

This post has been edited by Waba: Feb 23 2007, 12:28 PM

Thanks.Im on my training to be the true rojak king.I want to take random in automatch.My orks and eldar still have some BO problem.

Gonna try it out on the ai 1st before try it on real players.

The one in bold is the one i have problem.Too long din play adi.A bit rusty.

Any beginner ork guide?

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Feb 23 2007, 01:06 PM

anybody can help? i cannot install the patch. it's keep on saying im downloaded the wrong version. but i do use automatic online download but it still keep pop up the same thing.

im install the game in other directories, not in c:. is this the problem?

thank you

If you has trouble micro your capper in other race except Eldar, then my advice is, dont play eldar. Micro is too important for eldar. That's why in low level play (auto<1400) you dont see much eldar as any noob abuser can just simply pawn an eldar without too much ease.

Erm, which version of DOW are you running now? WA or DC?

For manual download and patch up try here
http://dawnofwar.filefront.com/file/Dark_C..._Patch_11;73707

Micro can train one wat.I should be able to get it back.

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This post has been edited by chinsc: Feb 23 2007, 03:33 PM

Some how I always fail on that /A\.
No skill cant be trained.

I used to be able to do that when i was in DoWPro EGSL tournament.Microing IG GM like mad but still lose because i was fighting against one of the lead beta tester in the first match.

I never deny that fact, but it's better to train your micro with other race before you really dip your hand into Eldar. When you are in a losing streak with Eldar, I doubt you will have the courage to keep on playing anymore.

Dont expect any here... Since the gaming club doesnt even play Warhammer 40K TT...

Nice shirts I love the Tau Commander. It would be nice if You can paint it red..

Btw King Kong anyword about the cheque???

I came for the Gathering since july last year.. So i should be overly qualify for the shirts for free!!

I have this feeling Hunts shirt will be Orkishly Brutal..

So pll This is the 2nd week of me not comming for warghh sessions... sigh I really miss those session to bad there no way on earth i will be able to fly all the way back to msia to play then go back..

Anyway i look foward for those shirts.. If i can get it here I might lure some pll to join just with the shirt due to its uberness.

UNSW need more Warhammer 40K awareness and the gamers club is aint helping.

This post has been edited by redeye84: Feb 23 2007, 05:41 PM