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axtray
post Aug 28 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(dennooze @ Aug 27 2016, 11:00 PM)
1st & 2nd point - noted

3rd point - the rest I can do but not dips & pull ups (these 2 workouts are insanely tough for me and tried couple of times and cant even lift my own bodyweight at all), so how do I fix this ? keep training same thing ? or use other methods ?

So the above 3 points, how do I monitor myself I'm doing well and what kind of results should I be expecting from myself ? any benchmarks or measurements ?

4th point - yes, my PT sometimes will train me and halfway my forms sometimes go little off (when my body can't handle the weight), especially doing the biceps (my left hand - weaker hand tend to twist the dumbbell when I move it up and down), but I still try my best to do it on my own without PT monitoring (but sometimes I feel pissed off as I'm paying to get attention and knowing the correct forms but instead I'm left alone sometimes, this is a similar issues with many commercial gyms I guessed)

For the food, I'll try my best to slowly fix it and incorporate more clean food, fried, oily food I can cut off easily, only thing is the protein intake may not be sufficient

Comes to supplement, any recommendations of tweaking I need to do ? Currently I'm relying quite heavily on isolate protein & multi-vitamin.
Should I try put in BCAA ? pre or post workout ? any other etc ?

Need some advices on the above.

Thanks & Regards.
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Well it is a strength routine so your first and foremost goal should be getting stronger. I'd target being able to bench press and squat your body weight and deadlift at least 1.2 times your bodyweight for starters.

The standard benchmark that's used in 4chan fit message board and even Reddit (lol troll message board) is 1/2/3/4 plate (Google this). You can achieve this, I dare say you're already alot stronger than 90% of ppl in the gym.

Supplements, from my own experience, getting your protein intake up was a good start. And you're on multi vitamins too. Unless you're doing fasted training, don't bother with bcaa. Post workout, just eat a banana or white bread or any other fast acting carbs. Preworkout might be a good if you're having trouble getting into workout mood. But if you wanna save money, just drink coffee (no sugar).

Again, if you want to see solid result, tracking your calories and macros will be your best bet. You go to any bodybuilding, powerlifting forum, the first thing they'll ask you will be "what are your macros" then only they'll ask your routine.



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post Aug 28 2016, 11:52 AM

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U should slam yr pt for not bothering with the foundation work ie yr nutrition. Simple rule of thumb, calculate yr tdee (google it), then work out yr macros portion. 1g per pound protein, 0.2-0.3g fats n rest carbs. Adjust where needed. Track yr weight daily first thing in the morning. Record and take average in weeks. Move from there. Either to maintain or bulk or cut. Check out compound movement for now. Isolation movement comes in later. Bench press, rows, squats, deadlifts, overhead press, dips, chin up, pull ups should be yr staple bb workout. Dun worry abt not being able to do dips or pullups for now but aim for tat.

Ps: come find me whenever yr in mainland. Glad to help out a bro.
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post Aug 28 2016, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(bafukie @ Aug 28 2016, 11:52 AM)
U should slam yr pt for not bothering with the foundation work ie yr nutrition. Simple rule of thumb, calculate yr tdee (google it), then work out yr macros portion. 1g per pound protein, 0.2-0.3g fats n rest carbs. Adjust where needed. Track yr weight daily first thing in the morning. Record and take average in weeks. Move from there. Either to maintain or bulk or cut. Check out compound movement for now. Isolation movement comes in later. Bench press, rows, squats, deadlifts, overhead press, dips, chin up, pull ups should be yr staple bb workout. Dun worry abt not being able to do dips or pullups for now but aim for tat.

Ps: come find me whenever yr in mainland. Glad to help out a bro.
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Thanks for the advice.

Will try do the compound movement. My worries of compound movement is the motion I frequently get it wrong.

I prolly need to take care of my macro nutrients which I'm not good at keeping track of them.

Will put my best to try.
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post Aug 30 2016, 05:14 PM

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Look for a programme packed with compound exercise (squats, DL, OHP, bench, rows, pull ups, dips) that suits you. At the beginning stage, every workout will work to a certain extend. Stick to it till you cant do it anymore or see no further progress. You will get stronger.

Track macros and eat properly. 400kcal of chips is not equal to 400kcal of chicken rice with vege. Eat your fats. No fats no hormone regulations.

Sleeeeeeep deeeeeep.

Repeat.

Ditch your PT.
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post Aug 30 2016, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Aug 27 2016, 02:15 PM)
Dont be like me, train 1.5 years also zero gains. Hope u find a proper programme.
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Nope. You have no gains because you complained too much.
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post Aug 30 2016, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 30 2016, 05:15 PM)
Nope. You have no gains because you complained too much.
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And the big gigantic ego with the know it all attitude. Even of the greatest coach once said:
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post Aug 30 2016, 06:39 PM

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ok back to topic.

 

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