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 Considering on Toyota Innova, 120k budget for MPV Car advise.

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post Aug 19 2016, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 19 2016, 10:36 AM)
How does Innova 3rd row compares with Exora?
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exora bigger due to longer n higher roof
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post Aug 19 2016, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(fishmango @ Aug 19 2016, 11:07 AM)
there is a new innova coming soon. Major facelift fr the current one

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Still based on truck platform right? Rear wheel drive with live axle rear suspension
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post Aug 19 2016, 11:22 AM

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u need consider the weight of the innova and engine performance leh..
i look the spec..seem like innova is underpower wor
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post Aug 19 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Aug 19 2016, 11:20 AM)
Still based on truck platform right? Rear wheel drive with live axle rear suspension
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yes, truck base, using hilux platform. Toyoda MPV for third world country mean good for off-tar rural ways, not for good for highway.
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post Aug 19 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Aug 19 2016, 11:20 AM)
Still based on truck platform right? Rear wheel drive with live axle rear suspension
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But toyota claim improve comfort, not sure how big is the improvement
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post Aug 19 2016, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 19 2016, 11:22 AM)
u need consider the weight of the innova and engine performance leh..
i look the spec..seem like innova is underpower wor
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at least is faster than crz. 1st gear side by side to fn2 type r.
becos rear weel drive, i did other stunts too, but that defeat the purpose of mpv so im not mentioning here.

btw, i cannot overtake exora. did passed japan imported estima after he speed cut.

my comment from 2008 until now.
e throttle, need to learn its lag response
weak brake after going several round of high speed >160kph
funny abs that too sensitive
small fuel tank. able pg--kl then low fuel light on. mixed usage slow drive 400km per tank (fully aggresive city drive can make 280km. hiway 330km)
good front grip as the double wishbone. turning circle not good.
interior stuffs. nothing break yet. pass.
exterior stuff. broken fuel door cable. toyota give dumb solution so i just leave it unlock.
other modify, service and misc. nope just a stock mpv for carry ppl and big item.

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post Aug 19 2016, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Aug 18 2016, 08:31 PM)
Innova is showing its age already....even the exhaust sound bad. Sound more like lorry than an mpv. And the spare wheel mounted like a truck.....with chain and all
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if u open the enjin bay. u will know the sound produce from the jumbo apollo shape air filter. ori exzos flow is quite restricted
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post Aug 19 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 19 2016, 12:50 PM)
at least is faster than crz. 1st gear side by side to fn2 type r.
becos rear weel drive, i did other stunts too, but that defeat the purpose of mpv so im not mentioning here.

btw, i cannot overtake exora. did passed japan imported estima after he speed cut.

my comment from 2008 until now.
e throttle, need to learn its lag response
weak brake after going several round of high speed >160kph
funny abs that too sensitive
small fuel tank. able pg--kl then low fuel light on. mixed usage slow drive 400km per tank (fully aggresive city drive can make 280km. hiway 330km)
good front grip as the double wishbone. turning circle not good.
interior stuffs. nothing break yet. pass.
exterior stuff. broken fuel door cable. toyota give dumb solution so i just leave it unlock.
other modify, service and misc. nope just a stock mpv for carry ppl and big item.
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Thanks for sharing
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post Aug 19 2016, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 19 2016, 12:50 PM)
at least is faster than crz. 1st gear side by side to fn2 type r.
becos rear weel drive, i did other stunts too, but that defeat the purpose of mpv so im not mentioning here.

btw, i cannot overtake exora. did passed japan imported estima after he speed cut.

my comment from 2008 until now.
e throttle, need to learn its lag response
weak brake after going several round of high speed >160kph
funny abs that too sensitive
small fuel tank. able pg--kl then low fuel light on. mixed usage slow drive 400km per tank (fully aggresive city drive can make 280km. hiway 330km)
good front grip as the double wishbone. turning circle not good.
interior stuffs. nothing break yet. pass.
exterior stuff. broken fuel door cable. toyota give dumb solution so i just leave it unlock.
other modify, service and misc. nope just a stock mpv for carry ppl and big item.
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Fuel consumption looks similar to Exora CFE's. But CFE more powerful.

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post Aug 19 2016, 05:05 PM

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do check out the used Mazda 8
fits your budget too
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post Aug 19 2016, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(electron @ Aug 19 2016, 05:05 PM)
do check out the used Mazda 8
fits your budget too
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post Aug 19 2016, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 18 2016, 07:43 PM)
Innova has such so low torque? if so, that means the Exora CFE is a lot more powerful at 205 NM at 2000 rpm onward
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Oh yes...
its stated here.

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The 1TR-FE is a 1,998 cc I4 gasoline engine. It features DOHC, 16 valves and VVT-i . Its power is 101 kW (136 hp) at 5,600 rpm, and 182 N·m (18.6 kg·m) of torque at 4,000 rpm with redline of 6000 rpm.
Only in Indonesia, they get both the 2.0L and the 2.5L D4D turbo diesel engine (turbo without intercooler).

On the other hand, the Exora gets a perfect match - Turbo and CVT. Which manufacture does that kind of combination except for Subaru.
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post Aug 19 2016, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(HealerC @ Aug 18 2016, 11:38 AM)
Hi everyone, 

We need a car that fit 2 adults and 4 kids.... Hence,  we are considering Toyota Innova since our budget is 120K.
I always hear lots of complaints about the fuel consumption issue.

I looking for full honesty from people who had experience with current Toyota innova about the comfort of ride ,practicality and performance for the price...... 

Or any suggestions for the budget of 120k ?

Tried grand living,  alza and avanza before....  3rd row seating is torturing if ride for long distance.......  Therefore these 3  is out.
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I've sat on the 3rd row of a borrowed innova before from kedah to KL and I must say for a 170cm tall guy it was hell. I hardly feel my feet after that trip. It also somewhat bumpy.
Both my family and my inlaws have exora and I say it is much more comfortable for the driver and passenger. No doubt once my own family grows I would definitely buy an exora
so spacious there still ample space after the third row.

Some time ago I did go to a Nissan showroom asking for serena for a friend and from the info that I got they said serena use hybrid engine like prius. furthermore it looked slab sided like a
van so thats why not many of them on the road.
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post Aug 20 2016, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(HealerC @ Aug 19 2016, 09:46 AM)
The price is estimated to be slightly higher then the current one because of the changes and upgrade make.....
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New car, so better specced.
No vsc, no buy.
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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Aug 19 2016, 11:28 PM)
I've sat on the 3rd row of a borrowed innova before from kedah to KL and I must say for a 170cm tall guy it was hell. I hardly feel my feet after that trip. It also somewhat bumpy.
Both my family and my inlaws have exora and I say it is much more comfortable for the driver and passenger. No doubt once my own family grows I would definitely buy an exora
so spacious there still ample space after the third row.

Some time ago I did go to a Nissan showroom asking for serena for a friend and from the info that I got they said serena use hybrid engine like prius. furthermore it looked slab sided like a
van so thats why not many of them on the road.
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Serena hybrid is not the same like prius'
http://www.livelifedrive.com/news/how-niss...id-models/28213
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post Aug 20 2016, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Aug 19 2016, 10:56 PM)
Oh yes...
its stated here.
Only in Indonesia, they get both the 2.0L and the 2.5L D4D turbo diesel engine (turbo without intercooler).

On the other hand, the Exora gets a perfect match - Turbo and CVT. Which manufacture does that kind of combination except for Subaru.
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post Aug 20 2016, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Aug 19 2016, 11:28 PM)
I've sat on the 3rd row of a borrowed innova before from kedah to KL and I must say for a 170cm tall guy it was hell. I hardly feel my feet after that trip. It also somewhat bumpy.
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did u adjust the middle row seat forward? me 170 ok wor.
new serena is somewhat bigger kenari shape the original mpv. i wont say the look like a van (liteace, c22, rusa that kind i call van)
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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 20 2016, 11:45 AM)
did u adjust the middle row seat forward? me 170 ok wor.
new serena is somewhat bigger kenari shape the original mpv. i wont say the look like a van (liteace, c22, rusa that kind i call van)
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I want to but can't. The rest of the family are all bigger/ taller than me so had to give up the legroom to them.
to me the slab sidedness remind me of those toyota hiace. Not to say its a bad thing but it does not appeal to buyers IMO.
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post Aug 20 2016, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Aug 19 2016, 11:28 PM)
I've sat on the 3rd row of a borrowed innova before from kedah to KL and I must say for a 170cm tall guy it was hell. I hardly feel my feet after that trip. It also somewhat bumpy.
Both my family and my inlaws have exora and I say it is much more comfortable for the driver and passenger. No doubt once my own family grows I would definitely buy an exora
so spacious there still ample space after the third row.

Some time ago I did go to a Nissan showroom asking for serena for a friend and from the info that I got they said serena use hybrid engine like prius. furthermore it looked slab sided like a
van so thats why not many of them on the road.
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Eventho i know Exora is bigger then Sienta.. I'm not taking it due to reliability and after sales service issue..

Had a wonderful 4 years experience service at Toyota, compare 10 years at proton which give me a lot of headache..

Serena S-Hybrid is only minor hybrid.. Fully developed hybrid is Prius n Camry Hybrid which totally different with Serena S-Hybrid (S for small)
Even second hand around rm90k for 2 years old Serena
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post Aug 20 2016, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Aug 20 2016, 07:02 PM)
Eventho i know Exora is bigger then Sienta.. I'm not taking it due to reliability and after sales service issue..

Had a wonderful 4 years experience service at Toyota, compare 10 years at proton which give me a lot of headache..

Serena S-Hybrid is only minor hybrid.. Fully developed hybrid is Prius n Camry Hybrid which totally different with Serena S-Hybrid (S for small)
Even second hand around rm90k for 2 years old Serena
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Mine 4 yrs+. These are the things that went wrong.

1. Two ABS sensor replaced. RM100+ each.
2. Steering rack sound replaced under warranty. Incidentally a friend have a Toyota and having same problem.
3. Dashboard sound that was fixed.
4. After refilling, sometimes got petrol smell.

Is that good or bad?

This post has been edited by Optiplex330: Aug 20 2016, 07:36 PM

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