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 Considering on Toyota Innova, 120k budget for MPV Car advise.

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post Oct 31 2017, 11:52 AM

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post Oct 31 2017, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Oct 31 2017, 11:12 AM)
How come Biante and Serena S-HYBRID only come with 2 airbags lol?
Its a MPV, safety should be highest priority.. Sienta also have 3 airbag, but JDM version do come with 6 airbag..
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I saw new biante going launch and more airbags, others have forget,. Anyway is more expensive and high maintenance
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post Oct 31 2017, 04:07 PM

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I as family guy would prefer Innova for comfortable as my brother in law is currently driving at the moment and i found it comfortable. ( First gen ).

When it comes with Family MPV car, comfortably is really important as every family member will experience it. Would you want a car that can drive like sports car but with uncomfortable seat? Setting objective/purpose for getting a car is really important.

Nobody (especially family member) will care whether is truck or van chasis. As long family members feel it is comfortable. Nobody will complain that your car slow in pick up or overtaking car cause this is not meant for that. Its meant for family, for comfortable and safety.

We do not have so much of option in MPV, especially for low till mid budget MPV. Whether 2.0cc is weak for MPV or not. If you only have that budget, you have to face reality. Not everyone can get engine like Turbo or Ferrari. That's why we have these options.
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post Oct 31 2017, 06:28 PM

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Serena is much more comfortable than Innova and it's much faster too.

Innova acceleration is like a bus hence it's very slow.

There's highway risk for family members especially when overtaking cars.

That's why I guess very few buyer bought the Innova versus the Serena or Biante for instance.

Hardly see the new Innova otr. It's as rare as the Hyundai Elantra



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post Nov 1 2017, 01:43 AM

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Innova is a car specially made for developing (read poor) countries....
See, no Innova in Japan!

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post Nov 1 2017, 09:22 AM

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Innova more safe than the Serena box due to the ladder frame. Rear ward collision Innova rear passengers higher chance to survive than Serena. Same with all other non ladder frame 7-seater.

Speaking of new Innova, it is getting more and more.
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post Nov 1 2017, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Nov 1 2017, 01:43 AM)
Innova is a car specially made for developing (read poor) countries....
See, no Innova in Japan!

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No Hilux, Fortuner, Altis, Camry, GT86 as well. So?


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post Nov 1 2017, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Nov 1 2017, 01:43 AM)
Innova is a car specially made for developing (read poor) countries....
See, no Innova in Japan!

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Different country do have different needs bro.. nearest is u can see in Sabah, most of them using 4WD.. different terrains play a role too for vehicle choices..
like japan they like to use small car even midget size, because they have small tiny place for carpark..

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 1 2017, 09:22 AM)
Innova more safe than the Serena box due to the ladder frame. Rear ward collision Innova rear passengers higher chance to survive than Serena. Same with all other non ladder frame 7-seater.

Speaking of new Innova, it is getting more and more.
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I did remember side impact for Serena S-HYBRID where the car roll over under that test..

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post Nov 1 2017, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(jacobngen87 @ Oct 31 2017, 06:28 PM)
Serena is much more comfortable than Innova and it's much faster too.

Innova acceleration is like a bus hence it's very slow.

There's highway risk for family members especially when overtaking cars.

That's why I guess very few buyer bought the Innova versus the Serena or Biante for instance.

Hardly see the new Innova otr.  It's as rare as the Hyundai Elantra
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Hermm..
Quite weird, i saw more Innova on the road compare Bieante and Serena S-HYBRID combine..
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post Nov 1 2017, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 1 2017, 09:22 AM)
Innova more safe than the Serena box due to the ladder frame. Rear ward collision Innova rear passengers higher chance to survive than Serena. Same with all other non ladder frame 7-seater.

Speaking of new Innova, it is getting more and more.
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The main factor making the current Innova a safer option than a Serena hybrid is the air bag count. If you take a look at the crash test done by ASEAN NCAP (for 2016 Innova) and JNCAP (2010 Suzuki Landy aka Nissan Serena which coincidentally also only has 2 front air bags), the structural damage on both looks almost identical after taking on full and offset frontal impact.

In general I think its rather unfair to compare safety features when both vehicles were designed at least 6 years apart.
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post Nov 1 2017, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Oct 31 2017, 11:12 AM)
How come Biante and Serena S-HYBRID only come with 2 airbags lol?
Its a MPV, safety should be highest priority.. Sienta also have 3 airbag, but JDM version do come with 6 airbag..
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Sienta had less airbag because our climate require the big 2nd/3rd row aircond. Due to this design limitation, they had to remove the airbag unit on Sienta and make do with the 3.

JDM unit only had aircond at the front. You can look at JDM Sienta pics for confirmation.
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post Nov 1 2017, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Deja Vu @ Nov 1 2017, 10:47 AM)
The main factor making the current Innova a safer option than a Serena hybrid is the air bag count. If you take a look at the crash test done by ASEAN NCAP (for 2016 Innova) and JNCAP (2010 Suzuki Landy aka Nissan Serena which coincidentally also only has 2 front air bags), the structural damage on both looks almost identical after taking on full and offset frontal impact.

In general I think its rather unfair to compare safety features when both vehicles were designed at least 6 years apart.
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No only that. Rear collision is still untested in XXNCAP. Those without ladder frame would fair very poor in rear ward collision.
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post Nov 1 2017, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 1 2017, 09:24 AM)
No Hilux, Fortuner, Altis, Camry, GT86 as well. So?
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Those are top 10 best selling cars in Japan.....iirc Fortuner is not available in Japan. It's just not goid enough for them....
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post Nov 1 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(amad108 @ Nov 1 2017, 10:22 AM)
Hermm..
Quite weird, i saw more Innova on the road compare Bieante and Serena S-HYBRID combine..
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I saw more newly registered Vellfire & Alphard than Innova. Why spend 130k for 3rd world Toyota when you can get mint used JDM Toyotas?
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post Nov 1 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Nov 1 2017, 02:32 PM)
I saw more newly registered Vellfire & Alphard than Innova. Why spend 130k for 3rd world Toyota when you can get mint used JDM Toyotas?
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No backstory of the used JDM Toyota. Last time saw Caldina GT4 owner got cheated because the 'JDM' unit appear to have non-minor accidents - the body has massive putty fillings around the body.


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post Nov 1 2017, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 1 2017, 03:31 PM)
No backstory of the used JDM Toyota. Last time saw Caldina GT4 owner got cheated because the 'JDM' unit appear to have non-minor accidents - the body has massive putty fillings around the body.
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Well, Toyotas are so reliable that a 5-6 years old cars still drive like a brand new car
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post Nov 2 2017, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Nov 1 2017, 03:33 PM)
Well, Toyotas are so reliable that a 5-6 years old cars still drive like a brand new car
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Reliable on the engine part. However the body might be refurbished just to look good while already way out of its structural strength integrity.


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post Nov 2 2017, 08:50 AM

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honestly speaking recon vellfire and alphard are way more than any other new mpv in the market. Innova recently pickup abit... but this model already launch for a year, and it is much slower to gain traction compare to the previous models where it was hot selling back then.
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post Nov 2 2017, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(dstl1128 @ Nov 2 2017, 08:16 AM)
Reliable on the engine part. However the body might be refurbished just to look good while already way out of its structural strength integrity.
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Just a bring a mechanic along to inspect the car

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