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TSdavidmu
post Jan 23 2007, 03:11 AM, updated 19y ago

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smile.gif Here is discussion of the name of car you like or understand.

You can ask some term of vehicle
we are discuss here(for those junior understand)


eg: FC =Fuel consumption
Coolant = the water for ....(don't know how to explain)
185/75/14H.....

(Please don't)

Strictly no offense the manufacture
Strictly no politic issue here
Strictly no laugh the name of car
Strictly no off topic
Please use better english term(don't let them laugh on you)



please correct me, if i'm wrong(I accept your opinion)

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post Jan 23 2007, 03:13 AM

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icon_question.gif anyone know the saga [color=red]LMST full name
Proton saga LMST N-Line?

and WRM, SRM, TRM.....

Part 1 (Title of short form)

WRM = Wira Replacement Model
SRM = Satria Replacement Model
TRM = Tiara Replacement Model

GTR = Nissan Skyline
AE86= Initial D toyota trueno
EK9 = Civic 9th gen Sedan

Part 2 (Heart of Automobile)
V-engine(conclusion)
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A question here, does V type engine save petrol efficiency??

And, Honda has announced it's next generation VTEC engine, the Advanced VTEC engine (AVTEC) which will make it's debut in a production car within the next three years.

Common title see on street:
1)DVVT, Dynamic Variable Valve Timing
2)VVT-i, Variable Valve Timing with fuel injection(or intelligent)
3)iDSI, Dual Sequential Ignition with fuel injection(or intelligent)
4)VTEC, Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control
5)iVTEC, intelligent-VTEC
6)CVVT, Continuous variable valve timing
Now I know is,

Honda made VTEC
Toyota made VVT, then Perodua make DVVT
Nissan made VTC(Valve Timing Control)
Mitsubishi made MIVEC
BMW made VANOS
Hyundai use CVVT
Proud of Proton is CAMPRO


Part 3 BrakingSystem

ABS = Anti-locking Braking System
ASR = Anti-Skid Regulation
EBD = Electronic Brake Distribution
EBA = Emergency Brake Assist


Part 4 Tyre "figure" recognition

Tyre "figure" recognition

eg. 185/75/14H


185 - Width of your tyre (mm)
75 - Aspect ratio is the percentage of the tyre's width. 75 is a thick one. Sports car uses low profile tyres such as 45, 40. (height of tyre)
14 - Size of the rim that this tyre fits in inches(inch.)
H - Maximum speed that the tyre manufacture recommends.

S - Up to 113 mph.
H - Up to 130 mph.
V - Up to 149 mph.
Z - Over 149 mph.

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Part 5 Car Maintenance

This is an important for all people look over, especially woman , lazy guy...you know la

Those part is the 1st attention warmed by some experienced driver
1. Engine oil
2. Engine oil level gauge
3. Battery Electrolyte
4. Engine coolant
5. Windscreen fluid
..... and so many parts you think is more important
...........Which part you should check before you start your engine!!

VERY IMPORTANT. --> Enough fuel move to petrol station!!!


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post Jan 23 2007, 08:45 AM

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May I Add:

Braking related
1) ABS
2) EBD

Transmission Related
1) CVT

Engine Technology:
1) DVVT
2) VVTi
3) iDSI
4) VTEC
5) i-VTEC

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post Jan 23 2007, 08:56 AM

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01. FC = Fuel Consumption
02. FPR = fuel pressure regulator
03. A-FPR = adjustable fuel pressure regulator
04. ECU = engine control unit
05. EMS = Enhine management System = ECU
06. MAP = Manifold Absolute Pressure
07. ICT = intake charge temperature
08. WOT = wide open throttle
09. TB = throttle body
10. ARB = Anti roll bar
11. GB = Gearbox
12. abs = Absorber
13. ABS = Anti lock brake system (*please correct me here)
14. HU = Head Unit (as in ICE for CD player/Cassette Player/DVD Player)
15. ICE = In Car Entertainment Entertainment.
16. x-over = crossover
17. TCS Traction Control System?
18. LSD - Limited Slip Differential

cheers.

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QUOTE(leowhy @ Jan 23 2007, 08:45 AM)
May I Add:

Braking related
1) ABS
2) EBD

Transmission Related
1) CVT

Engine Technology:
1) DVVT
2) VVTi
3) iDSI
4) VTEC
5) i-VTEC

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1) Advanced Braking System or Anti-lock Braking system or Automated Braking System or OTHERS
2) Electronic Brake Distribution

1)Continuously Variable Transmission

1)Dynamic Variable Valve Timing
2)Variable Valve Timing with fuel injection(or intelligent)
3)Dual Sequential Ignition with fuel injection(or intelligent)
4)Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control
5)intelligent-VTEC

Correct me if I'm wrong. notworthy.gif

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post Jan 23 2007, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 23 2007, 09:07 AM)
1) Advanced Braking System or Anti-lock Braking system or Automated Braking System or OTHERS
2) Electronic Brake Distribution

1)Continuously Variable Transmission

1)Dynamic Variable Valve Timing
2)Variable Valve Timing with fuel injection(or intelligent)
3)Dual Sequential Ignition with fuel injection(or intelligent)
4)Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control
5)intelligent-VTEC

Correct me if I'm wrong.  notworthy.gif
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I think you are not well verse with Toyota tongue.gif

It's VVT-i = Variable Valve Timing with intelligence

Btw it's not equivalent to VTEC since it doesn't have valve lift alteration unlike VVTL-i which developed by toyota later on.

source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVT-i

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post Jan 23 2007, 10:54 AM

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If my car supports both RON92 and RON97, what advantages/disadvantages would both petrol have?
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post Jan 23 2007, 11:14 AM

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MIVEC: Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing Electronic Control
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edited : double posted

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post Jan 23 2007, 11:20 AM

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SOHC = Single Overhead Camshaft

DOHC = Dual Overhead Camshaft
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post Jan 23 2007, 12:07 PM

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looks ggod so far...

TS Please Gather the "terms & meanings" together & summarize them in your 1st post from time to time if possible... thumbup.gif
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post Jan 23 2007, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jan 23 2007, 10:54 AM)
If my car supports both RON92 and RON97, what advantages/disadvantages would both petrol have?
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RON means Research Octane Number. Sorry forgot about the chemistry already. tongue.gif
But anyways here's what it means for the engine. You see most people say that higher RON means more firepower. In fact it kinda means the opposite. The higher RON, the more energy it needs to make it ignite.

So therefore when you have a high compression engine, a higher RON will not make the fuel pre-ignite(knocking) because it takes more energy(more compression) to make it ignite. Higher RON also means a more progressive ignition. It is best to use RON97 (your engine supports it right?) and not lower than 92. 97 releases the engine's full potential because the engine senses less knock and adjusts the best spark timing. Going any higher won't make a significant(if any) difference at all. A 92 RON is safe and cheaper too.
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post Jan 23 2007, 06:43 PM

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Waa..!!! so many dai kor answer it here already!!

cheer!! cheer~~~!!
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post Jan 23 2007, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(leowhy @ Jan 23 2007, 12:07 PM)
looks ggod so far...

TS Please Gather the "terms & meanings" together & summarize them in your 1st post from time to time if possible... thumbup.gif
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but no body answer my question ler!!??

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EBD? BAS? ABS? ESP? HICAS? ATTESSA? AYC? ACD? SMG? DSG? VSC? VANOS? MIVEC? VTEC? VVTi? VVTi-L? i-VTEC? VTC? TCS? DVVT? EPS? 4WS? CVT? CAMPRO? ETCS? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(davidmu @ Jan 23 2007, 03:11 AM)
Coolant = the water for ....(don't know how to explain)
185/75/14H.....
Coolant, liquid to transfer heat. Better than water alone bacause it contains chemical that prevents corrosion in your radiators.

185/75/14H

185 - Width of your tyre in mm.
75 - Aspect ratio, or the profile of the tyre. 75 is a thick one. Sports car uses low profile tyres such as 45, 40.
14 - Size of the rim that this tyre fits in inch.
H - Maximum speed that the tyre manufacture recommends.

S - Up to 113 mph.
H - Up to 130 mph.
V - Up to 149 mph.
Z - Over 149 mph.


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Basically aspect ratio is the percentage of the tyre's width. 75 means the height of the sidewalls is 75% of your tyre's width.
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post Jan 23 2007, 07:27 PM

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more horsepower = better top speed
more torque = better acceleration
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Oh and regarding TS' question, does a V engine reduce fuel consumption. No.
It has the same fuel consumption and performance of a normal inline engine or any other configuration(same displacement and technology of course). The only advantage of it is it is compact in size. It is more complex however.
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 23 2007, 09:07 AM)
1) Advanced Braking System or Anti-lock Braking system or Automated Braking System or OTHERS
i dun think that ABS stands for Automated Braking System as there is no car I know that has been designed to Brake itself.

ABS is like what you mentioned as you second definition "Anti-lock Braking system"

and thanks for the rest of the definitions......I was always wondering those when see toyota and honda cars......
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There's a research on it for heavy trucks. In traction control, the brakes are applied automatically and adequately to prevent wheelspin. Mercedes Benz S-Class has an Automated Braking System. The car brakes by itself. Yes. nod.gif
ABS can also mean Antiblockiersystem (German), anti-skid brake system.
There are many meaning to the abbreviation ABS and all of them are correct.
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nice thread with nice explaination, thumbs up!
yea i saw a workshop sell some sorf of equipment that called Advanced braking system but dont know what it does tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2007, 09:32 PM

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Thanks!!
-=Axis=-, tunertoobe...a good explaination from big brother

Does your job related to automobile industry??
any website your recommend for the car maintenance studies
and car industry term?
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post Jan 23 2007, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Jan 23 2007, 07:27 PM)
more horsepower = better top speed
more torque = better acceleration
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More hp does not necessarily better top speed. It depends, If you have trash gearbox (bad ratios) you won't go anywhere laugh.gif

Yes, more torque means more power, If you are in touge racing given scenario eg: uphill, I'm sure turbo(or any force induction) powered will pwned the vtec although both engine has the same hp and displacement but the torque is different. A good example is Honda S2000. It has rotten torque but good hp.

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go stan = reverse tongue.gif

*heck its still a car terms understanding in malaysia

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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:59 PM)
go stan = reverse tongue.gif

*heck its still a car terms understanding in malaysia
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I get ur mean...!!

is Cross done(costs dan) = reverse

this is Malaysian classic car term!!! rclxms.gif
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Haha sorry I don't know how to spell it because we always hear msians keep saying gostan gostan or costsdon...haha as long as its done proper then its good enough aye
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:41 PM)
More hp does not necessarily better top speed. It depends, If you have trash gearbox (bad ratios) you won't go anywhere laugh.gif

Yes, more torque means more power, If you are in touge racing given scenario eg: uphill, I'm sure turbo(or any force induction) powered will pwned the vtec although both engine has the same hp and displacement but the torque is different. A good example is Honda S2000. It has rotten torque but good hp.
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2007 HondaS2000 standard spec

Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net, Rev 8/04)
237 @ 7800

Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm)
162 @ 6800

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I take it that a "better pick up" car for daily usage are those with good torque @ lower RPM, right?
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QUOTE(Kerry1136 @ Jan 23 2007, 09:59 PM)
go stan = reverse tongue.gif

*heck its still a car terms understanding in malaysia
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QUOTE(davidmu @ Jan 23 2007, 10:35 PM)
I get ur mean...!!

is Cross done(costs dan) = reverse

this is Malaysian classic car term!!! rclxms.gif
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I read an English article on Malaysian English and actually gostan (reverse) is short for 'go astern' smile.gif
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QUOTE(KucingKelabu @ Jan 24 2007, 12:32 AM)
I take it that a  "better pick up" car for daily usage are those with good torque @ lower RPM, right?
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hmm.....correct and also means better acceleration in general as usually the layman do not know what good torque @ low RPM means. they only know the car can accelerate fast .... rclxub.gif
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Reverse = Go Astern.

But since malaysian is english is bad.. most people start making mistake and saying go stan... go stan.
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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jan 24 2007, 11:05 AM)
hmm.....correct and also means better acceleration in general as usually the layman do not know what good torque @ low RPM means.  they only know the car can accelerate fast ....  rclxub.gif
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If you know torque meaning in car...
please share the meaning to us.

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Torque is basically the twisting motion that's happening to the cranshaft.
To put it a little simpler:
Imagine if you want to loosen a nut, you need a spanner right?
Okay when you are loosening the nut with the spanner, what motion do you use? What do you do with your hand when handling the spanner? You make a circular motion with the spanner by pushing/pulling the other end of the spanner right? So basically you applied torque to the nut.

For engines, just replace the spanner with a crankshaft and your hand with the a piston.

To calculate torque, the formula is: force x distance(from the point where the force is applied to the centre of the axis of the crank, sorry if explanation is a bit blur. sweat.gif)
The longer the crank, the more torque you produce. Also the more force you apply, the more torque as well.

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as for Proton Saga LMST some of them refer to LaMeST.

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QUOTE(eddyann @ Jan 25 2007, 08:33 AM)
as for Proton Saga LMST some of them refer to LaMeST.
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not latest model saga tank ?
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DVVT = VVT-i...for example..myvi using a DVVT 1.3L DOHC codename K3VE, toyota avanza using the similar engine but with VVT-i 1.3L DOHC K3VE..i know most of u guys knew this..just wanna share..peace icon_rolleyes.gif



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in short, torque is the twisting force produce by the engine. A car engine can spin at different speed, thus RPM, but they might have different force at different speed.

Diesel engine has good torque at low RPM. Meaning they have good standstill acceleration, and they have the force to pull heavy loads. Petrol car usually have good torque at high RPM, thus can go higher max speed.

As for horsepower, it is just a number calculated from torque. it is basically calculated based on torque multiply by RPM multiply by 1/5252. So it means that if you car engine can give out high torque at high RPM, then your car engine has high horsepower.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_power
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torque
http://www.procivic.com/pages-horsepower_torque/index.html
http://craig.backfire.ca/pages/autos/horsepower
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Jan 25 2007, 02:24 PM)
good useful link, thank you rclxms.gif biggrin.gif thumbup.gif


if you found some maintenance car related website, pls share icon_rolleyes.gif
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what does k-car means?
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post Jan 25 2007, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jan 25 2007, 11:32 PM)
what does k-car means?
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I had ever play SEGA GT game(PC)
got a lot of K-car


my explaination:
meaning light motor vehicle, small size, low feul consumption
eg. kancil,kelisa,Kenari...

I heard my friend said, it is built for low tax, economy driving
design for those people don't drive motocycle, but can afford drool.gif low cost
motor vehicle price.
This is Japanese idea, good use, good afford, good environment icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(davidmu @ Jan 25 2007, 11:44 PM)
I had ever play SEGA GT game(PC)
got a lot of K-car


my explaination:
meaning light motor vehicle, small size, low feul consumption
eg. kancil,kelisa,Kenari...

I heard my friend said, it is built for low tax, economy driving
design for those people don't drive motocycle, but can afford  drool.gif  low cost
motor vehicle price.
This is Japanese idea, good use, good afford, good environment icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks....what the "K" in K-car stands for?
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QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jan 25 2007, 11:54 PM)
thanks....what the "K" in K-car  stands for?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kei_car
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While this isn't a term, know that parts like timing belts, etc have a life span. Understanding this will be more helpful when it comes to maintaining your vehicle.
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QUOTE(Awan Afuqya @ Jan 25 2007, 11:56 PM)
thanks....ha ha ha

so "K" actually is K (kei).......

just wondering, apart from Kancil, Kelisa, Kenari, Kembara......what other cars are considered K-car?
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 26 2007, 08:57 AM)
While this isn't a term, know that parts like timing belts, etc have a life span. Understanding this will be more helpful when it comes to maintaining your vehicle.
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Which part you can sharing, pls put in...thnaks notworthy.gif

QUOTE(tester1979 @ Jan 26 2007, 09:59 AM)
thanks....ha ha ha

so "K" actually is K (kei).......

just wondering, apart from Kancil, Kelisa, Kenari, Kembara......what other cars are considered K-car?
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ATOS, getz, jazz or FIT......

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QUOTE(davidmu @ Jan 26 2007, 01:49 PM)
Which part you can sharing, pls put in...thnaks notworthy.gif
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each and every car model/make's parts vary and differ when it comes to shelf life... so it's kinda hard to say.
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The longer the crank, the more torque you produce. Also the more force you apply, the more torque as well.


The longer the stroke the engine has, the more torque it generates. But longer stroke have lower max rpm.

The larger the bore, the more hp it generates. And larger bore have higher max rpm.

Imagine a long spanner, you can turn big circle and have enough torque to turn a stubborn nuts but you turn less revolution per minute (RPM) since the big motion you need to turn.

eg. Lorry has long stroke; F1 car has large bore.


So we say hi rev in short when in high RPM. Or when we floor the acceleration pedal, we say 'rev kau kau'. Not 'reverb kau kau'.

reverb means echo. I notice quite a lot of people here say 'reverb' as 'rev'.

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post Jan 26 2007, 08:24 PM

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Oh thanks dstl1128, forgot to mention the stroke . biggrin.gif
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post Jan 26 2007, 08:32 PM

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post Jan 26 2007, 11:25 PM

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i dun think perodua produce dvvt. all are toyota's.

ayc = active yaw control
vsc = vehicle stability control
tcs = traction control system
4ws = 4 wheel system?
campro = CAMshaft PROfile
acd = active centre differential
lsd = limited slip differential
gdi = gasoline direct injection
cps = cam profile switching
vim = variable intake manifold

there is a variable exhaust manifold, yet i do not know the name. maybe vem? haha

info are not necessarily true. this is what i heard. correct me if i'm wrong
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post Jan 27 2007, 02:19 AM

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BMW's VANOS means:
Variable Nockenwellen Steuerungi
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post Jan 27 2007, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(jaMneSs @ Jan 26 2007, 11:25 PM)
campro = CAMshaft PROfile
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PROUD of Proton engine rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
This is the engine that powers the Proton Gen-2. The S4PH engine can be fitted with Cam Profile Switching (CPS) and Variable Inlet Manifold (VIM) technology.

Proton developed its own variable valve timing(VVT) technology that works similar with other variable valve technologies such as Honda VTEC and Toyota VVTi, named as CPS (Cam Profile Switching) technology

http://www.proton.com/innovation/rnd/campro.php


Added on January 29, 2007, 11:38 pmdo your know the 1.3..1.6...1.5 GLi, GTi, SXi, EXi

those normally stand for what??


Added on February 5, 2007, 1:48 pmCan anyone explain what is the figure use on Engine oil

like 10W30, 15W50, molygraphite, grapholia, semi-synthetic??

Big brother here, pls...

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