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ritzkaizer
post Oct 4 2016, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 4 2016, 10:23 AM)
CPU: RM 1295
Mobo: RM 415
RAM: RM 169
GPU: RM 689
PSU: RM 199
HDD: RM 219
Case: Sharkoon VG5-W - RM 199

Price picked from Idealtech pricelist since the items listed by you were the items from Idealtech.

High end i7 6700 + low end RX460? I wonder what's the purpose of this rig? Rendering/Work? If it is for gaming, please put more budget in GPU instead of CPU.
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Ty for ur suggestions.. building for audio editing...
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post Oct 5 2016, 12:14 PM

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Hi all need Recomendation icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

[Budget] Below 2k

[Purpose] Mostly gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] WoW, HoTS, Starcraft 2.

[Personal preferences] i5, SSD if possible.

[Location] KL

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post Oct 5 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(ritzkaizer @ Oct 4 2016, 08:08 PM)
Ty for ur suggestions.. building for audio editing...
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Alright then, you can downgrade the GPU to an even cheaper one to save money if you want smile.gif

QUOTE(Madcatmk2 @ Oct 5 2016, 12:14 PM)
Hi all need Recomendation  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif

[Budget] Below 2k

[Purpose] Mostly gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] WoW, HoTS, Starcraft 2.

[Personal preferences] i5, SSD if possible.

[Location] KL

Thanks  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 446
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 488
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1871 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Not quite possible to fit an i5 in the build, a 120GB SSD can be added with minor over budget though.
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post Oct 6 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 5 2016, 03:22 PM)
Alright then, you can downgrade the GPU to an even cheaper one to save money if you want  smile.gif
Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 446
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 488
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 450W - RM 166
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1871 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Not quite possible to fit an i5 in the build, a 120GB SSD can be added with minor over budget though.
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Hi terence_nwb,

I'm about to buy new case for my rig. I saw you always recommend Tecware case even on 8K rig. Is there any significant difference in term of performance vs price compared to other brands for example Bitfenix Nova. I've been lurking around and found Bitfenix Nova at RM126 while Tecware is RM115. I'm not going to spend more than RM150. Is there any reason you always go for Tecware?
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post Oct 6 2016, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(bl0om @ Oct 6 2016, 01:41 PM)
Hi terence_nwb,

I'm about to buy new case for my rig. I saw you always recommend Tecware case even on 8K rig. Is there any significant difference in term of performance vs price compared to other brands for example Bitfenix Nova. I've been lurking around and found Bitfenix Nova at RM126 while Tecware is RM115. I'm not going to spend more than RM150. Is there any reason you always go for Tecware?
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Case is very subjective, I usually don't prioritize the case in the budget first unless it is stated. Fancy and nice looking case could cost you a lot and will definitely bring down the overall specs that you can get with your budget, if your requirements are high (especially on GPU part) then I will sacrifice the case in order to get something that can at least match with them rather than skimping on hardware part.

Someone asked the same question earlier, Tecware vs Bitfenix, or Tecware Alpha vs Bitfenix Nova to be precise (sometimes Tecware F3), F3 is a mATX case so it is totally out of the question if your mobo is an ATX mobo. Since your budget is less than RM 150, then it is up to Nova vs F3 only, F3 comes with more casing fans, this could save you few bucks (possibly hundred), Nova in the other hand only comes with 1 rear exhaust fan but it is an ATX form factor case.

If form factor and clearance aren't the main issue, then F3 is a better pick for me, more color choices, cheaper, sleeker design in overall.

But of course, your budget matters the most.
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post Oct 6 2016, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(daccorn @ Oct 3 2016, 08:55 PM)
[B][Budget] 4000-4500

[Purpose] gaming: processing intensive i.e. Football Manager, Civilization (with full graphics)

[Hardwares that will be re-use] a motherboard that could handle further generation cpu and gpu?

[Monitor resolution]

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Football Manager (more than 50k staff and players if that means anything to anyone)

[Personal preferences] SSD, solid power pack (that isn't hard to find replacement)

[Location] East Malaysia =(((
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Was looking for the same budget (even play the same games!)

Proc: intel i5
Gpu: GTX 1060/ 1070
The rest of the components, need input from you guys.
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post Oct 7 2016, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ Oct 6 2016, 11:06 PM)
Was looking for the same budget (even play the same games!)

Proc: intel i5
Gpu: GTX 1060/ 1070
The rest of the components, need input from you guys.
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 845
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 1239
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 278
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ GW2470H - RM 469

Total: RM 4255 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Extra budget can be used to get a better monitor (IPS)/case etc.
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post Oct 7 2016, 03:31 PM

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Hi everyone, i m looking for a video editing and rendering rig.
budget around rm3500-4000.
i need suggestion.

anyone recommendation? smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 10:39 PM

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Hi i'm looking for a build to play the occasional Dota 2 and run microsoft office, basic movie watching and streaming. I plan to pair it with my 1080p monitor Thanks in advance for the suggestions!!!


[B][Budget] The cheaper the better (only rig)

[Purpose] Dota 2, Microsoft office, web browsing, streaming movies/videos

[Monitor resolution]1080p (reuse)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2, google chrome, MS office

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post Oct 8 2016, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(ghost3291 @ Oct 7 2016, 03:31 PM)
Hi everyone, i m looking for a video editing and rendering rig.
budget around rm3500-4000.
i need suggestion.

anyone recommendation? smile.gif
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1300
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 16GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 322
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 488
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 278
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
EVGA 450B - RM 239
Tecware Alpha - RM 199

Total: RM 3414 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If the software you use for editing/rendering do use the GPU power as hardware accelerator, then you can consider switching to a better GPU with more processing power and memory.
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post Oct 8 2016, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(wolfster23 @ Oct 7 2016, 10:39 PM)
Hi i'm looking for a build to play the occasional Dota 2 and run microsoft office, basic movie watching and streaming. I plan to pair it with my 1080p monitor Thanks in advance for the suggestions!!!
[B][Budget] The cheaper the better (only rig)

[Purpose] Dota 2, Microsoft office, web browsing, streaming movies/videos

[Monitor resolution]1080p (reuse)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dota 2, google chrome, MS office
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Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 477
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 488
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
EVGA 450B - RM 239
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1975 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

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post Oct 8 2016, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 8 2016, 09:18 AM)
Intel Core i3 6100 - RM 477
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Palit GTX750Ti 2GB GDDR5 StormX - RM 488
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
EVGA 450B - RM 239
Tecware F3 - RM 125

Total: RM 1975 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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post Oct 9 2016, 12:29 AM

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Hi will appreciate any suggestion for upgrading my pc

[B][Budget] 1.5k, can scretch to 1.8k if needed.

[Purpose] gaming, surfing, occasionally work (Typing) although thinking of video editing if have a action camera later

[Hardwares that will be re-use] hard disk 500gb x2, PSU (FSP Hexa 550), casing (CM elite 335) , mouse/ keyboard, speakers

[Monitor resolution] 1080 (acer h233h)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, CSGO.

[Personal preferences] intel based . if budget permits, a SSD, maybe windows 10? (using win 7 now)

[Location] PJ/ KL


Thank you
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post Oct 9 2016, 08:37 AM

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Hello everyone, can I get a quotation?

1. budget 3k, max can go 3.3k laaa

2. purpose editing, like rendering, gaming not so hardcore laa, can go medium/high setting should be okay, highest i think impossible with that budget.

3. there's no any preferences brand, but would love to get nvidia GPU if possible with that budge. Other than that like PSU or RAM is okay with standard one. About mobo, i think the one which can upgrade the CPU in the future. If possible sir.

Thank you very much sir ! biggrin.gif

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post Oct 9 2016, 07:10 PM

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Hey guys, was wondering about what I should do, upgrade my current laptop, or get a whole new desktop. From the sig, I'm using an M17x R4, with basic specs.

For my budget, which is better? I won't be moving a lot. Even the M17x doesn't get lugged around everywhere.

I'll be working in Johor, but I plan to do what I need in KL.

[Budget] RM3000-3500

[Purpose] Gaming, movies, music, rendering, etc.

[Monitor resolution] Doesn't matter, 4K, or multiple FHD monitors are fine too. I could use the extra working space though.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] MATLAB, CREO, AutoCAD, Microsoft Office, World of Tanks, GTA V, new games out, etc.

[Personal preferences] Monitors should be uber B-E-A-utiful. I hate the non glossy stuff. Super bright is a plus too.

[Location] Central Malaysia

Thanks a lot for all the help biggrin.gif
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post Oct 9 2016, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(kilazilla @ Oct 9 2016, 12:29 AM)
Hi will appreciate any suggestion for upgrading my pc

[B][Budget] 1.5k, can scretch to 1.8k if needed.

[Purpose] gaming, surfing, occasionally work (Typing) although thinking of video editing if have a action camera later

[Hardwares that will be re-use] hard disk 500gb x2, PSU (FSP Hexa 550), casing (CM elite 335) , mouse/ keyboard, speakers

[Monitor resolution] 1080 (acer h233h)

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, CSGO.

[Personal preferences] intel based . if budget permits, a SSD, maybe windows 10? (using win 7 now) 

[Location] PJ/ KL
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Getting genuine Windows key from a retail shop could cost you a lot and doesn't help you too much in your situation especially when your budget is low, try to check Garage Sales for cheap genuine key if you want but be careful on this, some might be selling duplicate/stolen key etc.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 715
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Gigabyte RX460 4GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 630

Total: RM 1755 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If your current Windows 7 key is an OEM key then you cannot transfer the ownership to new mobo because OEM key is tied to the first activated mobo, but there are few ways to get past this, like asking support from Microsoft (not guarantee will success, they might ask you to buy a new key instead) sweat.gif

QUOTE(kay-you @ Oct 9 2016, 08:37 AM)
Hello everyone, can I get a quotation?

1. budget 3k, max can go 3.3k laaa

2. purpose editing, like rendering, gaming not so hardcore laa, can go medium/high setting should be okay, highest i think impossible with that budget.

3. there's no any preferences brand, but would love to get nvidia GPU if possible with that budge. Other than that like PSU or RAM is okay with standard one. About mobo, i think the one which can upgrade the CPU in the future. If possible sir.

Thank you very much sir ! biggrin.gif
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CPU upgrade is depends on the socket, so the upgrade room is pretty much locked to 2 generations (like Intel 6th and 7th gen both using LGA1151 socket), any upgrade beyond the same socket will require mobo upgrade too.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 715
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Gigabyte GTX10660 6GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 1210
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Tecware Alpha - RM 219

Total: RM 2968 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

If you want (or can) to go up to 3.3k, then you can upgrade the CPU to i5 6500 and add a 120GB SSD. And this specs can run most of the games on high (or ultra if the game is well optimized for PC) settings biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Ikmal91 @ Oct 9 2016, 07:10 PM)
Hey guys, was wondering about what I should do, upgrade my current laptop, or get a whole new desktop. From the sig, I'm using an M17x R4, with basic specs.

For my budget, which is better? I won't be moving a lot. Even the M17x doesn't get lugged around everywhere.

I'll be working in Johor, but I plan to do what I need in KL.

[Budget] RM3000-3500

[Purpose] Gaming, movies, music, rendering, etc.

[Monitor resolution] Doesn't matter, 4K, or multiple FHD monitors are fine too. I could use the extra working space though.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] MATLAB, CREO, AutoCAD, Microsoft Office, World of Tanks, GTA V, new games out, etc.

[Personal preferences] Monitors should be uber B-E-A-utiful. I hate the non glossy stuff. Super bright is a plus too.

[Location] Central Malaysia

Thanks a lot for all the help biggrin.gif
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 842
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 276
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 161
Palit GTX1060 3GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 938
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 178
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 188
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
Dell S2216H - RM 499

Total: RM 3510 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

If you prefer to have more VRAM and full GTX1060 (the 3GB variant is around 10% weaker than the full specs 6GB variant), then you can consider to drop the SSD and use the extra money to get a 6GB GTX1060.
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post Oct 10 2016, 12:03 AM

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Hello Terence and everyone.

Can you help me to review this build. Which part of hardware can be revised/ offset? I am looking for a middle ground here between performance and price wise.

This current build cost is around RM 6.5k. I am trying to reduce it at least RM 6k.

CPU Intel Core i5-6600
Motherboard Asus Z170 PRO GAMING
Memory Corsair VG 3200 C16 LPX 2X 16GB
Storage Sandisk Ultra II 240GB ** Already have one in possession.
Storage HGST 7200RPM 3TB
Video Card Asus Strix GTX1080 8G Gaming
Case Corsair Carbide Clear 400C White
Power Supply Bequiet! 600W Power PSU Semi Modular

Thanks.


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QUOTE(cry4freedom @ Oct 10 2016, 12:03 AM)
Hello Terence and everyone.

Can you help me to review this build. Which part of hardware can be revised/ offset? I am looking for a middle ground here between performance and price wise.

This current build cost is around RM 6.5k. I am trying to reduce it at least RM 6k.

CPU Intel Core i5-6600
Motherboard Asus Z170 PRO GAMING
Memory Corsair VG 3200 C16 LPX 2X 16GB
Storage Sandisk Ultra II 240GB ** Already have one in possession.
Storage HGST 7200RPM 3TB
Video Card Asus Strix GTX1080 8G Gaming
Case Corsair Carbide Clear 400C White
Power Supply Bequiet! 600W Power PSU Semi Modular

Thanks.
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Drop the Z170 mobo and high performance RAM, use the extra money to get i7 6700 instead, some games are very CPU demanding and the i5 will somehow "bottleneck" the GTX1080 when it can't cope with the heavy CPU workload/demand, this is often seen in open world title and heavy multiplayer based title. Fast RAM does benefit Skylake CPU but you need a strong CPU foundation first before spending so much in a Z170 and high speed RAM, it is just a waste when your CPU doesn't even have the chance to fully utilize them due to "bottleneck".

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1300
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 322
MSI GTX1080 8GB GDDR5 Armor - RM 2852
Seagate Barracuda 3TB HDD - RM 409
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 485

Total: RM 6223 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Is 3TB HDD really necessary for now? If yes then you need to downgrade other parts, like mobo/case to keep below 6k, otherwise you can just get a 1TB HDD (costs around RM 220) for the time being for storage.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Oct 10 2016, 09:17 AM)
Drop the Z170 mobo and high performance RAM, use the extra money to get i7 6700 instead, some games are very CPU demanding and the i5 will somehow "bottleneck" the GTX1080 when it can't cope with the heavy CPU workload/demand, this is often seen in open world title and heavy multiplayer based title. Fast RAM does benefit Skylake CPU but you need a strong CPU foundation first before spending so much in a Z170 and high speed RAM, it is just a waste when your CPU doesn't even have the chance to fully utilize them due to "bottleneck".

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1300
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Corsair 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 322
MSI GTX1080 8GB GDDR5 Armor - RM 2852
Seagate Barracuda 3TB HDD - RM 409
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Corsair Carbide 400C - RM 485

Total: RM 6223 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

Is 3TB HDD really necessary for now? If yes then you need to downgrade other parts, like mobo/case to keep below 6k, otherwise you can just get a 1TB HDD (costs around RM 220) for the time being for storage.
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Thanks Terence for the input.

1. I noticed H170-HD3 only supports Crossfire. Do you have any recommendation for SLI supported motherboard at the same price as H170-HD3?
2. Superflower Leadex is better than Bequite? Price increase is almost double there.



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