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 NVIDIA GeForce Community V17 (welcum pascal), ALL HAIL NEW KING TITAN NOT OUT YET ARGH

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post Jan 10 2017, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jan 10 2017, 01:34 PM)
I'm waiting RyZen, for price and real word performance review. So far looks good on team red, latest leaked engineering sample have stock clock 3.6GHz and 3.9GHz turbo. AMD themselves confirmed all RyZen will be unlocked ( means OC  rclxms.gif  ) Then I may decide between Kabylake and Ryzen, dont think I can tahan my hand until cannon lake late this year.

If you have the K version then sure can extend life span for at least another 1-2 years, that's how I survived so far with Sandy bridge, just OCed. Now my system are bottleneck by RAM ( puny 8GB and DDR3 1600 ), also hand itchy want m.2 SSD, current two SATA3 SSD felt normal  laugh.gif
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My current rig is done. Since it is a non K, I decide not doing anything more. Better spend more on new rig.

AMD Ryzen, a lot of hype. Let's wait and see...
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QUOTE(Vorador @ Jan 9 2017, 06:25 PM)
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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Jan 10 2017, 01:15 PM)
Thanks guys for advice. Going to wait again. Let's see, whether the Canon (lake) can tembak or not  laugh.gif

I m not really keen with AMD. So far no firm Ryzen spec yet.

Probably not going to upgrade casing, lazy to take out everything and put to new casing.  sweat.gif

It's an i7-3770 (non K). Looking back, I should have get a K version, those days was cheap. I can still remember the shop keeper advising to take K version, somehow I just stick to non OC. Actually I could just choose whether to OC or not later. Anyway decision already made, no regrets.

Yeah, man !  cool2.gif

Agree, G-Sync is really helpful.
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I expect it tembak further further laugh.gif
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post Jan 12 2017, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(CPURanger @ Jan 10 2017, 01:15 PM)
Thanks guys for advice. Going to wait again. Let's see, whether the Canon (lake) can tembak or not  laugh.gif

I m not really keen with AMD. So far no firm Ryzen spec yet.

Probably not going to upgrade casing, lazy to take out everything and put to new casing.  sweat.gif

It's an i7-3770 (non K). Looking back, I should have get a K version, those days was cheap. I can still remember the shop keeper advising to take K version, somehow I just stick to non OC. Actually I could just choose whether to OC or not later. Anyway decision already made, no regrets.

Yeah, man !  cool2.gif

Agree, G-Sync is really helpful.
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haha not sure wan to upgrade or not
i also using the non k i7-3770
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post Jan 12 2017, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jan 10 2017, 01:34 PM)
I'm waiting RyZen, for price and real word performance review. So far looks good on team red, latest leaked engineering sample have stock clock 3.6GHz and 3.9GHz turbo. AMD themselves confirmed all RyZen will be unlocked ( means OC  rclxms.gif  ) Then I may decide between Kabylake and Ryzen, dont think I can tahan my hand until cannon lake late this year.

If you have the K version then sure can extend life span for at least another 1-2 years, that's how I survived so far with Sandy bridge, just OCed. Now my system are bottleneck by RAM ( puny 8GB and DDR3 1600 ), also hand itchy want m.2 SSD, current two SATA3 SSD felt normal  laugh.gif
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Overclock the ram man. My kingston value ram ddr3 1600mhz overclocked to 2133mhz cl12 with 1.65v at least same speed with the basic ddr4 ram hahhah
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post Jan 12 2017, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 12 2017, 04:20 PM)
Overclock the ram man. My kingston value ram ddr3 1600mhz overclocked to 2133mhz cl12 with 1.65v at least same speed with the basic ddr4 ram hahhah
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Hahaha, my RAM dont have much room for OC, cant recall but I think cant even reach 18XXMHz sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jan 12 2017, 06:28 PM)
Hahaha, my RAM dont have much room for OC, cant recall but I think cant even reach 18XXMHz  sweat.gif
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Can one, 2 things affects the speed: voltage and CL timings.

For voltage use 1.6 or 1.65volts (max), for CL just change it from CL9 to CL12 etc. Not sure about sandy bridge, but for skylake the speed is more important than the cl timings.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 12 2017, 06:32 PM)
Can one, 2 things affects the speed: voltage and CL timings.

For voltage use 1.6 or 1.65volts (max), for CL just change it from CL9 to CL12 etc. Not sure about sandy bridge, but for skylake the speed is more important than the cl timings.
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Had to search back old post on FB, mine wasnt lucky enough, as that two piece of RAM was bought separately ( forgot why sweat.gif ) if single piece can go 18XX below 1.6V but with dual channel no luck even at much higher CL value. That's why my 2500K OCed but RAM only use XMP profile one.
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Haha so moral of the story here is always take K version like me laugh.gif i late in the game sadly 4 buying at the start of the collapse where i buy 4790 k at 1200 while before that used 2 be 900 argh doh.gif still feeling that pinch today rclxub.gif
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anyone of you using geforce experience share to record your gameplay? recently i've tried to upload 1440p video to youtube, but after uploaded and it only shows 1080p 60fps. cant find the option for 1440p ,any advise?

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QUOTE(angel-girl @ Jan 13 2017, 08:33 AM)
anyone of you using geforce experience share to record your gameplay? recently i've tried to upload 1440p video to youtube, but after uploaded and it only shows 1080p 60fps. cant find the option for 1440p ,any advise?

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My sis using 1050ti can't manage to record zzz
Any tips on how to do it? Done everything but recording just won't start
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 12 2017, 04:20 PM)
Overclock the ram man. My kingston value ram ddr3 1600mhz overclocked to 2133mhz cl12 with 1.65v at least same speed with the basic ddr4 ram hahhah
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Overclocking ram has minimal benefits in terms of fps. Especially so when you loosen the CL too much. 1600 MHz cl9 to 2133mhz cl12, don't think you will see any tangible improvement. wink.gif
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2017, 06:10 PM)
Overclocking ram has minimal benefits in terms of fps. Especially so when you loosen the CL too much. 1600 MHz cl9 to 2133mhz cl12, don't think you will see any tangible improvement. wink.gif
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post Jan 13 2017, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2017, 06:10 PM)
Overclocking ram has minimal benefits in terms of fps. Especially so when you loosen the CL too much. 1600 MHz cl9 to 2133mhz cl12, don't think you will see any tangible improvement. wink.gif
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Common misconception.

While the avg fps doesn't change too much, what most "reviewers" cannot show you (or don't know how rather) is that higher speeds and tighter timing gives you a more linear frametime, i.e better framepacing. You can get 60fps on your chart, but what a chart cannot show you is how many split milliseconds the system is splitting frames erratically.

Overclocking RAM tends to help these situations. Getting a linear line of framepacing is not a "minimal" benefit. It's a significantly advantageous one IMO.
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 13 2017, 05:08 PM)
My sis using 1050ti can't manage to record zzz
Any tips on how to do it? Done everything but recording just won't start
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cant record 1440p? i just click start it will start.
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Jan 13 2017, 07:40 PM)
Common misconception.

While the avg fps doesn't change too much, what most "reviewers" cannot show you (or don't know how rather) is that higher speeds and tighter timing gives you a more linear frametime, i.e better framepacing. You can get 60fps on your chart, but what a chart cannot show you is how many split milliseconds the system is splitting frames erratically.

Overclocking RAM tends to help these situations. Getting a linear line of framepacing is not a "minimal" benefit. It's a significantly advantageous one IMO.
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No arguments about that. He was talking about higher speeds with loose timings... 1600 to 2133mhz but cl9 to cl12 wink.gif

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post Jan 14 2017, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 13 2017, 11:46 PM)
No arguments about that. He was talking about higher speeds with loose timings... 1600 to 2133mhz but cl9 to cl12 wink.gif
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loose timings doesn't mean worse latency, because the true latency is the result of memory speed + cas timings.

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1600Mhz with CL9 = 11.25 ns
2133Mhz with CL12 = 11.28 ns

The latency is about the same, but you get the benefit of higher memory bandwidth with 2133Mhz

Not to mention better memory speed means higher CPU physic's output in games that intensively uses CPU physics, in those games you can see slight increase in fps.

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 14 2017, 07:44 AM)
loose timings doesn't mean worse latency, because the true latency is the result of memory speed + cas timings.

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1600Mhz with CL9 = 11.25 ns
2133Mhz with CL12 = 11.28 ns

The latency is about the same, but you get the benefit of higher memory bandwidth with 2133Mhz

Not to mention better memory speed means higher CPU physic's output in games that intensively uses CPU physics, in those games you can see slight increase in fps.
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Like I said, no arguments about that. However, in real world games, there is not much benefits to overclock with such loose timings. Show me that there are true benefits in gaming to loosen the CL so much but I don't think I ever saw benchmarks comparing such loose timings.
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 14 2017, 08:03 AM)
Like I said, no arguments about that. However, in real world games, there is not much benefits to overclock with such loose timings. Show me that there are true benefits in gaming to loosen the CL so much but I don't think I ever saw benchmarks comparing such loose timings.
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Very weird why do you keep stressing about loose timings? It is the true latency and memory bandwidth that is more important, and i had already posted a benchmark just in my post before.

Tight timings is useless when the memory bandwitdh is small

Let me give you more extreme examples of modern games that are influenced more by ram speed:

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http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallou...arks/page6.html


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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 14 2017, 09:27 AM)
Very weird why do you keep stressing about loose timings? It is the true latency and memory bandwidth that is more important, and i had already posted a benchmark just in my post before.

Tight timings is useless when the memory bandwitdh is small

Let me give you more extreme examples of modern games that are influenced more by ram speed:

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http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallou...arks/page6.html
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The link didn't mention anything about CL. Only 1333 vs 2400Mhz.

Anyway, any overclock is good as long as we try higher speeds with tighter timings. And it's fun! thumbup.gif

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