IINM you can just marry three (for the initial first time) and then cycle through the set EVERY TIME you charge in 2-cell mode (externally I hope). 1-2, 2-3, 3-1 - but you REALLY need to keep track of your batteries and their usage this way though.

Or at least that's what Mooch said in his last RX23 specific post up on Reddit.

Soscili: https://goo.gl/aOajJf

If you can't bother keeping track, just go for a set of twins and triplets ler, it's costlier but easier. Personally, I don't even have a married triplet at all. Will buy a set when I ever start needing above 100w on a regular basis.

Also, I can concur about the LGs being a tad easy to heat up when stressed - but that's not what it's for. It's primarily a high cap batt, not really a high drain (above 20A) one.

The VTC4 is slightly better for high drain (Mooch rated for 23A) thus less heat under stress.

I have a bunch of them Sammy 30Qs OTW though, supposedly those do better under "normal" stress compared to the Chocos.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 15 2016, 01:03 AM

Also, you probably need an external charger. The TwoThirds (like all the other RXs EXCEPT the original Rulo DNA) DOES NOT have balanced charging

Lazada lol. Scoping out them local sources, found a "reasonable-looking" local seller so decided to give it a shot. Of course, will test them out the moment I get them. Haven't heard of 30Q clones so far, so it's either the real thing or easily discernible shit rewraps.

Hopefully anyway.

Would be awesome if they were legit though, coz Lazada discounts lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 15 2016, 12:48 AM

As always, MTL? DTL? Single coil? Multi coils?

For DTL:


For MTL:


This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 15 2016, 01:29 AM

The Serp Mini doesn't have JFC though (and the GobMiniV3 and Griff does IINM). Might not be an issue if you wick well, but it's worth mentioning.

So you're back here right? Coming from an M class everything else is probably gonna fire like shiat to you really boss.

Maybe one of them DNA75 mods, the VT75 Nano probably if you want them small (and capable of making use of that one Choco). Or the LavaBox Mini (same chip) if you want something more beefy.

Both can be considered as small mods that fire well, aren't too costly and yet can probably satisfy your needs. Unfortunately, being DNA devices you probably need to learn some basic eScribe (on the PC) at least to make full use of either.

There's also the Therion (75W) and the VT133 (133W) if you need more battery life/power, but they're both dual-cell mods (bulky) and that little Choco will go to waste.

If you want them cheaper, maybe the Smok Quantum (1-cell, 80w) or H-Priv (2-cell, 200+W) but both are online order only.

At the bottom end, there's the cheapy JT-chipped mods too (Pico, RX2/3) but those don't really come even close in terms of firing performance to your M-Class, just so you know. They're still very good mods... though you *might* find the vape slightly lacking.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 15 2016, 08:37 PM

You'll be happy with the Therion for sure, it's a very, very well made mod. Ask andyng38 for a BnM that stocks the Therion - he's been stalking the mod for a while now after being smitten by Lost Vapes with his Triade.

And nope, while the M Class only has the old V1 SX350J chip (vs the ML's V2), it's most certainly not outdated lol. It's not even one year old yet lol.

Rohan Odinson Care to share why you regretted upgrading to the DNA200?

As good as it is, I do have my fair share of misgivings towards the DNA platform so I can sympathise... but as long as I have it all well configured, I don't really regret getting one (especially as it's the VE special deal VT133, being as cheap as it is).

To be fair though, the VT isn't really my ADV device anyway... and if it goes all fritzy I can always fall back to my cheapie twin-cell backup (the TwoThirds), so there's probably much less room for me to be as bothered by the little annoyances of the DNA platform.

If it *was* my primary device though, I can probably see why anyone could get pissed by the lack of on device configuration options with the DNA. Having to tweak *nearly* everything on a PC and not really being able to do much without one can be a real pain.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 16 2016, 01:19 AM

No no no, no war or anything. As a DNA (and JTchip) user who has never really owned a Yihi chip device (can't afford one lol), I was just curious. Besides, we all looooveee open discussion.

Really, thanks for your input...

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 16 2016, 02:07 PM

Yay, my 30Qs are here already! Extremely fast shipping too, considering I'm in the middle of the jungle.

From a visual inspection it looks pretty legit so far too, all the usual Sammy markings plus that telltale eching below the vent cap are all there.

Now let's see if it performs as good as the Chocs. They're going straight into the VT as soon as I finish charging them.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 16 2016, 04:29 PM

Well, it used to be the other way around (HG2 running colder than the 30Q) but nowadays the Chocs aren't as good as they used to be. Ironically, I'm pretty sure it's because of us vapers exhausting the higher grade stockplie lol.

Plus, I've always been a Sammy man to begin with - I just like their stuff. Sammy wraps are pure shit compared to LG and Sony though, they tear so bloody easily.

Been waiting for a local seller to stock the Pinkies for a while now, so it was a quick trigger pull for me. Price also not bad considering you get a case, but thankfully that's how *everyone* sells 'em these days.

Only thing... charging these hicap batts are a PITA time-wise in normal 0.5-1A chargers, that's for sure. We're gonna need QuickCharge 18650s soon... and I don't just mean 2A/channel chargers... cause those pretty much trash your battery lifespan quick.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 16 2016, 05:51 PM

Technically? Yeah, at least with the current batch of HG2s floating around. If you had an unused one from, say mid 2015 it might be better... *maybe*.

The "current batch" Chocos are still not bad really, especially under sub-40/50w applications. But they're just not up to the level of the 30Q/VTC6 for higher load applications... they heat up pretty fast.

That said, neither the 30Q nor the VTC6 is as easily found locally, and the Chocos are fine if you're looking for the capacity, especially if you can get them cheap. Just don't stress them too much.

Rohan Odinson One of the sellers up on Lazada. I can't remember which one though... unfortunately lol. Have to recheck later.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 16 2016, 07:26 PM

The Eagle is *actually* a Subohm Tank... in a sense. It uses precoiled decks, but the cotton is replaceable like normal RTAs. I'm not sure if you can actually recoil the pre-made decks themselves, but that's not what it was made for. Not sure if it comes with an actual RBA section either.

The Griff is a normal RTA, where you have to recoil and rewick yourself.

Which one better? Depends in how cash-flush you are (precoiled-decks cost considerably more, like OCCs/attys for other Tanks... but being able to rewick yourself means that it'll last longer on the Eagle) and how much you like to fuss with building your own coils (Tanks are of course easier to deal with compared to RTAs).

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 16 2016, 09:07 PM

Hmm. Depends. Which one would look better on your mod lol...

But seriously, the 22 *might* have slightly better flavour (coz it's smaller) and the 25 *might* have some improvements (coz it's newer)... but all things considered it'll just be splitting hairs so yeah... back to which one would look better lol.

The 25 might have a bigger deck to build on though, if you wanna run weird wire coils (claps, tigers, aliens, staplers).

But they make such good cheap mods lol. It's just a bit of a roulette when it comes to their stuff.

Personally, ALL my JT chipped mods (Pico, TwoThirds and yeah... the VTC) NEVER jump out of SSTC with single strand coils, especially spaced. They do go nuts on twisted SS though... except for the TwoThirds, which is taking all the TC coils I feed it like a champ so far.

However, if it has never done the jumpy-jacks before and is doing it now, it's either the sucky 510 getting loose (which often happens in JT mods) or (like snake1983 said) some firmware related issues.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2016, 01:17 AM

No toes stepped in lol. Just that it's a pity when JT actually makes good stuff... as long as you know that they are cheap devices that *DO* come with some... rather shitty... parts (USB, 510).

And yeah, the Pico for one is rock solid (the USB is still shit though). The VTC is actually quite solid too... save for the shitass microUSB port and 510.

Seriously, they should just fix their damn 510s and it'll be much, much easier to recommend their stuff without reminding people about it lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2016, 09:04 AM

Well, I personally think that covering the lack of flavour in an atty with coils that drain twice as much power and juice is an exercise in folly... but to each their own.

That said, if I wanna really argue efficiency, I wouldn't rock twin coils in my ADV and would still be vaping my mech + Tipu-fun MTL setup lol. Horses for courses lah.

gunners_my Been looking at that too. Should be pretty meh everything considered, but the ease of recoiling + low costs could actually make it a breakthrough design... as long as it performs decently enough and not leak everywhere.

Interested in getting one for my technophobe dad if it works okay. The JT OCCs for his Tron gets quite expensive after a while.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2016, 11:05 AM

He doesn't rebuild and can't be bothered to. Neither is he even fussed enough to go to a bloody shop to recoil.

Plus, I'm not close enough to be of any use if he has issues with rebuildables. I already tried once, it ended badly (e.g. he stopped vaping for a while).

ekudz Yep JoiTek Teran.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2016, 12:12 PM

Very true. Not all vapers are enthusiasts like us lol. Some "just vape" can can't be bothered with anything... especially the more senior amongst us.

Anyway, on another note, my VeloV2 review is up: http://goo.gl/rKkdfn.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2016, 11:42 AM

Or we can just buy normal notches and cut the legs off.

How do the coils make contact with the +ve and -ve terminals in the RTA?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2016, 01:09 PM

The rating's a tad different for both.

VTC4 is okay for 23A.... it *can* go to 30A but will run hot and die fast. VTC5 is largely a 20A batt with slightly better cap (Sammy 25R5 rival). VTC6 is more the HG2/30Q competitor.



That said, Sony batts are known to have more cycles compared to the others, with maybe Sammy a close second.

And the VTC4's slightly higher CDR compared to the rest (while not losing too much cap) makes it good for higher drain applications.

markypcs Man that is CHEAP. I would snag some but I'm more a 25R5/30Q guy. Great find!

Plus GB is still taking their sweet time passing me my Hastur lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Aug 17 2016, 02:52 PM