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TShellremix
post Jul 18 2016, 12:33 AM, updated 10y ago

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Hi guys,

Not sure this is the right forum or not, but just a quick question, do tenant need to replace all the broken light bulb when they move out?.

Yhe condition is as below;

There is a lamp with the original condition having 2 bulb, but when they move out, there is only 1 bulb working. Do they need to replace that one?. And there is other lamp that is totally not working, with the base almost torn apart, do they need to replace that one before moving out?. One more lamp, is actually working, but the cover is broken.

One more thing, if the sink is leaking, do tenant need to repair it also before moving out, or it is the land lord reponsibility.

Do tenant need to return the house the way they received it initially?.

Please advise on this if you had any experience as a house owner before.

Thanks,


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post Jul 18 2016, 12:38 AM

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for my case, i as owner paid for pipe leaks, tap leaks repairs. broken light bulbs and broken light fittings borne by the tenant. normally tenancy agreement would spell out light bulbs as one wear n tear item that will be borne by the tenant

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Anubis77
post Jul 18 2016, 12:40 AM

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Tenant leaves exactly the same way when they moved in.
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post Jul 18 2016, 12:41 AM

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Theoretically yes. Reality in malai v hav the prob in brought up, enforcement, culture, etc etc tat u c NO in most cases
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post Jul 18 2016, 12:52 AM

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Yeah, i need to check back the agreement. As i see it is not fair for me if the tenant leave the house like that. There is no major repair needed, just the bulb, mostly is not working, the sink is leaking, and the curtain rail almost fall off.. and one more, the wondow handle also, some of them had broken. As i am also renting, for me, if i am.goimg to move out, i will repair everything first before giving the keys back to the owner.
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post Jul 18 2016, 06:13 AM

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really not happy when tenant wanted to use the deposit to set off the last 2 month rental.

but most of the time they wanted and we cant really do much.....

u make them angry and later worry they destroy ur house....
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post Jul 18 2016, 09:16 AM

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normally owner pay for big item like pipe leaks, tap leaks repairs.
broken light bulbs & fittings are paid by the tenant...

anyhow better check tenancy agreement..
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post Jul 18 2016, 11:15 AM

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how about air-con? and tenants need to pay for the maintenance for twice a year?
TShellremix
post Jul 19 2016, 08:51 AM

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Yeah.. light bulb doesnt cost much. I guess i need to repair it myself then. For the aircond, i think it is under the tenant responsibility to service.
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post Jul 19 2016, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(graywilird @ Jul 18 2016, 11:15 AM)
how about air-con? and tenants need to pay for the maintenance for twice a year?
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Tenant pays for it..
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post Jul 19 2016, 08:54 AM

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All depend on your agreement.
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post Jul 19 2016, 09:21 AM

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for me, if those things doesn't cost much or when the tenant move in it is not in really good condition but workable, i will pay for it.

if it's new and it's broken, i will charge it to the tenant.
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post Jul 19 2016, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(juicyliana @ Jul 19 2016, 09:21 AM)
for me, if those things doesn't cost much or when the tenant move in it is not in really good condition but workable, i will pay for it.

if it's new and it's broken, i will charge it to the tenant.
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Yeah, if 2 or 3 bulb should be ok, but if it was more than 10 bulb, I need to reconsider this. Haha.. there is also one light in the bathroom that was totally torn apart. That one i think i can charge the tenant right?. How about the window handle, i can charge them rite?.

I just go through the agreement and found a clause saying that the tenant should return the house in its original state. Does it mean the tenant should make sure everything is working as per during they start to rent the house?. Please advise on this guys.

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post Jul 20 2016, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(hellremix @ Jul 19 2016, 10:52 PM)
Yeah, if 2 or 3 bulb should be ok, but if it was more than 10 bulb,  I need to reconsider this. Haha.. there is also one light in the bathroom that was totally torn apart. That one i think i can charge the tenant right?. How about the window handle, i can charge them rite?.

I just go through the agreement and found a clause saying that the tenant should return the house in its original state. Does it mean the tenant should make sure everything is working as per during they start to rent the house?. Please advise on this guys.

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yes it means that the tenant has to return the house the way it should be when u handed the house to him/her.

u can talk to the tenant properly and maybe to make the relationship better, some minor repairs that doesn't cost much, u can pick up the bill. just for out of goodwill.
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post Jul 20 2016, 09:36 AM

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Normal wear and tear tenants to borne. When they leave, they need to make good as the time they moved in. This clause must be in the tenancy agreement. Pipe leaks and other defects which are not considered normal wear and tear owner to repair. That is my agreement.
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post Jul 20 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(hellremix @ Jul 19 2016, 10:52 PM)
Yeah, if 2 or 3 bulb should be ok, but if it was more than 10 bulb,  I need to reconsider this. Haha.. there is also one light in the bathroom that was totally torn apart. That one i think i can charge the tenant right?. How about the window handle, i can charge them rite?.

I just go through the agreement and found a clause saying that the tenant should return the house in its original state. Does it mean the tenant should make sure everything is working as per during they start to rent the house?. Please advise on this guys.

Thanks
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In reality how do u proof the context of 'original state'? Tenant might claim those fixtures were already defective from the 1st day he/she moved in.
TShellremix
post Jul 22 2016, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(klangvalleyrookie @ Jul 20 2016, 10:01 AM)
In reality how do u proof the context of 'original state'? Tenant might claim those fixtures were already defective from the 1st day he/she moved in.
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Yeah, i did mentioned in my agreement that the tenant should return the house on its original state. But i didn't mentioned on what kind of original state. Anyhow, will talk to my tenant on this and see how. Btw, when my tenant move in, we did test on all the lighting, and fixture.. but no written prove in that.. haha
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post Jul 22 2016, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(kamilnu @ Jul 20 2016, 09:36 AM)
Normal wear and tear tenants to borne. When they leave, they need to make good as the time they moved in. This clause must be in the tenancy agreement. Pipe leaks and other defects which are not considered normal wear and tear owner to repair. That is my agreement.
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Yup, the abnormal wear and tear the owner shall borne it, understand on that. But for light bulb, as i said, if it is too much, then the tenant should borne it, from my understanding off course. Anyhow, i will try to slow talk with my tenant first on this.

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post Jul 23 2016, 12:13 PM

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1 question: a brand new air con, 1 and half years broke down. tenant need to pay for it?
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QUOTE(graywilird @ Jul 23 2016, 12:13 PM)
1 question: a brand new air con, 1 and half years broke down. tenant need to pay for it?
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no, owner to repair and maintain

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