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 All new Toyota Sienta, Surprising package

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post Jul 4 2016, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jul 3 2016, 11:17 PM)
Exactly my thought. There isnt any buzz about the arrival of this model where i feel it deserves more attention. Looks wise, not the best out there but i think looks is a bonus for this segment.

It will save me the hassle of getting out of my car to open the car for my wife with baby though those electric power sliding doors.  icon_idea.gif
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Go for it then. biggrin.gif

Most likely I'm leaning towards buying this car. But as mentioned, I'm not in a hurry.

There are not many new car models with sliding-doors. I was looking at the Serena, Biante and Mazda 5 although different segment and more expensive.
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post Jul 4 2016, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jul 4 2016, 06:16 AM)
7 seater with a 1.5L engine? Surely underpowered. U need diesel turbo for this purpose.
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Like i mentioned, i will be using it primary as a 5 seater leaving me with a large and high cargo storage area in the back. Getting a sedan would limit my storage. Especially the way strollers take up space in my current boot. 😅

QUOTE(0300078 @ Jul 4 2016, 07:20 AM)
most likely when this launch they will take off the current Innova and launch new innova with a much higher price tag around 130k something compare to the 90k-110k current model
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Current innova is 105k for the manual variant if im not mistaken. High spec goes all the way to 118-120k. To steep for my budget and too large or me at the moment

QUOTE(ftan @ Jul 4 2016, 08:24 AM)
Go for it then.  biggrin.gif

Most likely I'm leaning towards buying this car. But as mentioned, I'm not in a hurry.

There are not many new car models with sliding-doors. I was looking at the Serena, Biante and Mazda 5 although different segment and more expensive.
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Im actually in a similar situation as you. My purchase will be relevant in the next 2-3 years so not in a hurry either, the sienta just happens to fit my needs quite perfectly.

Hopefully the deal gets better around next year. Probably some good deals for 2016 leftover stocks. 😁

Was just wondering if its actually smaller than alza in terms of dimension

This post has been edited by aztechx: Jul 4 2016, 12:44 PM
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post Jul 4 2016, 12:47 PM

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I don't mind getting this as daily driver. Just need to make sure it has 4 disc brakes and CVT gearbox.

Gonna retire my 3008 instead.
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post Jul 4 2016, 05:51 PM

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post Jul 4 2016, 08:04 PM

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lol. this crappy MPV also got people interested?
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post Jul 4 2016, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Jul 3 2016, 05:28 PM)
I wonder if have rear disc brakes? Safety first.
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This car is for carrying the family from a to b, not to do racing. Drum brakes will do a good enough job at stopping the car when need be. At least drum brakes can achieve that, there are some cars that stop really fast... despite having drum brakes. I'd be more interested in more than 3 airbags...

This car is a lot like the Kangoo, just even more flexible and with better thought out rear seats. The jury is still out on how good the rear seats are (they are pretty great on the Kangoo, as long as your legs aren't too long, but the seating position is much more comfortable than in the Alza or Touran, despite the Touran having a lot more leg room). Sliding doors are super practical, being electric even more so. Entrance for the elderly should be even better than in the Kangoo, thanks to a wider opening around the footwell.

Looking at aztechx photos it looks like the seat is quite high compared to where the feet go, which means you can sit quite comfortably in the 3rd row. Not perfect, but a lot better than some much more expensive MPVs.

@wkc5657: How so? Is this rear wheel drive? What relationship could this car (developed and sold in Japan) have with the Avanza (developed in Indonesia, not sold in Japan)?

I've been in the previous Sienta a couple of times... it's fine. Not great, the ride isn't as good as the Kangoo's ride for example, but it's fine. Interior quality is acceptable. It's an affordable car after all.

This car is relatively short, but spacious inside. Great if you live in a place with tight car parks, say, KL. Can fit in places where other 7 seaters or even sedans can't fit. Big advantage. Looks isn't everything, and at least they try to make it look interesting. The Avanza looks like a crappy 15 year old car wearing make up (which, erm, it is).

If I needed a 7 seater MPV, this would be it. (And yes, I'm a notorious Toyota hater).

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Browsing through the spec sheet at toyota website did show a solid and ventilated disc configuration meaning all four will indeed come with disc brakes. But probably a feature that could easily be not noticeable during daily commute.

Apparently the sienta is currently the number 1 selling mpv in Japan, the hybrid variant that is. Reviews are currently only in Japanese and 1-2 decent indoenesian review. They seem to be happy with the third row despite their knees obviously touching the fromt row. Dont think a full grown adult is suited for those seats. Still haveto physically try it out at showrooms.
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jul 4 2016, 11:13 PM)
Browsing through the spec sheet at toyota website did show a solid and ventilated disc configuration meaning all four will indeed come with disc brakes. But probably a feature that could easily be not noticeable during daily commute.

Apparently the sienta is currently the number 1 selling mpv in Japan, the hybrid variant that is. Reviews are currently only in Japanese and 1-2 decent indoenesian review. They seem to be happy with the third row despite their knees obviously touching the fromt row. Dont think a full grown adult is suited for those seats. Still haveto physically try it out at showrooms.
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Few cars have a 3rd row suitable for full grown adults, especially not small MPVs. What matters is if it suitable for kids. And I think the Sienta could be. In comparison, the VW Touran isn't suitable for kids. It only works with amputees that lack the part below the knees, because there is no space for that.
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post Jul 5 2016, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jul 4 2016, 11:57 AM)
Im actually in a similar situation as you. My purchase will be relevant in the next 2-3 years so not in a hurry either, the sienta just happens to fit my needs quite perfectly.

Hopefully the deal gets better around next year. Probably some good deals for 2016 leftover stocks. 😁

Was just wondering if its actually smaller than alza in terms of dimension
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I'm tentatively planning for next year. Let's see what is on offer then. If this car isn't popular, then it might get discontinued like the Honda Freed in few years time. But I think it should do reasonably ok. Would be perfect if they had more airbags.

Looks about the same size or slightly bigger than Alza.
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post Jul 5 2016, 08:32 AM

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if they launch a hybrid version here that would be great. the add on hybrid election motor could help with the lack of power

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post Jul 5 2016, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 4 2016, 09:35 PM)
@wkc5657: How so? Is this rear wheel drive? What relationship could this car (developed and sold in Japan) have with the Avanza (developed in Indonesia, not sold in Japan)?
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I may have made my conclusions too early regarding that as there were so much reference in a number of articles on this model comparing it against the Avanza. The sienta is front wheel driven whilst the avanza is rear wheel driven. They may share the same powertrain though.

It is a much funkier car compared to the Honda Freed. There's no 7 seater that has such a modern-ish design with bold colours, it will appeal to young gen-y and gen-z families. Should be well received if they price it around 85k-95k region. Compared to the Livina or Freed, I'll also prefer the Sienta.
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There is a comparison on youtube for the comparison Sienta vs Freed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emv48vR3vFk

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Another bummer is the lack of leather seat option. Having small babies around, quite essential to have leather seats for me. Probably might push the price much higher with 7 leather seats.
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post Jul 5 2016, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 5 2016, 10:10 AM)
I may have made my conclusions too early regarding that as there were so much reference in a number of articles on this model comparing it against the Avanza. The sienta is front wheel driven whilst the avanza is rear wheel driven. They may share the same powertrain though.

It is a much funkier car compared to the Honda Freed. There's no 7 seater that has such a modern-ish design with bold colours, it will appeal to young gen-y and gen-z families. Should be well received if they price it around 85k-95k region. Compared to the Livina or Freed, I'll also prefer the Sienta.
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No worries. The drive train might be the same, yeah. We'll see.

Mh. The Citroen C4 Grand Picasso looks kind of funky too, plus is a lot more attractive. It's a much bigger car though, and more expensive.

Leather seats... I prefer Alcantara. Doesn't burn your bum as bad as leather, not so slippery...
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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 5 2016, 10:10 AM)

It is a much funkier car compared to the Honda Freed. There's no 7 seater that has such a modern-ish design with bold colours, it will appeal to young gen-y and gen-z families. Should be well received if they price it around 85k-95k region.
Already announced G specs RM92,900 & V specs RM99,900
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post Jul 5 2016, 05:39 PM

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Im seeing this Sienta in SG almost everyday. I would say the design does stand out among Toyota models. It looks modern too, suitable for city.
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 5 2016, 04:31 PM)
No worries. The drive train might be the same, yeah. We'll see.

Mh. The Citroen C4 Grand Picasso looks kind of funky too, plus is a lot more attractive. It's a much bigger car though, and more expensive.

Leather seats... I prefer Alcantara. Doesn't burn your bum as bad as leather, not so slippery...
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Ya and it is around 50% more expensive! way to do a comparison
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post Jul 5 2016, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Jul 5 2016, 05:39 PM)
Im seeing this Sienta in SG almost everyday. I would say the design does stand out among Toyota models. It looks modern too, suitable for city.
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Especially those who chose the bolder colours, really stand out on the road. Makes BRV look meh.... dry.gif dry.gif
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post Jul 6 2016, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(wkc5657 @ Jul 5 2016, 10:08 PM)
Especially those who chose the bolder colours, really stand out on the road. Makes BRV look meh.... dry.gif  dry.gif
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The BRV is already on the road in SG?

Was considering that too but i believe it is more of ak 'avanza-like' vehicle.

By the way the sienta will be displayed at mitsui outlet park between 5th-10th this month. Can go take a peek.
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jul 6 2016, 09:29 AM)
The BRV is already on the road in SG?

Was considering that too but i believe it is more of ak 'avanza-like' vehicle.

By the way the sienta will be displayed at mitsui outlet park between 5th-10th this month. Can go take a peek.
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Wow, ok. Now I'm tempted to go and see. I wonder if it's opened today and tomorrow.

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