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TSjeffro
post Jun 30 2016, 01:55 PM, updated 10y ago

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Car is Myvi 1.0 Manual, age of car is about 9 years +

this month my car spoiled 3 times.. suddenly the car just 'fell asleep' while driving on highway..
1st time fix: mechanic say engine plug need to change
Damage cost: nearly RM100 sad.gif
Fixed ady, then 2 weeks later same thing happened. But before the car 'feel asleep', the car was jerking.

2nd time fix: say clutch, drive shaft and timing sensor spoiled, so need change also
Damage cost: nearly RM1k rclxub.gif bye.gif
Fixed ady, then 1 day later same thing happened AGAIN! This time got metal cranking sounds, car jerking, lost of power, and yellow engine light on, and it fell asleep.
Able to start the car after a few minutes of rest (car very sleepy i think)

3rd time, want to fix: say mayb it's engine issue, if open it up, labor charge ady rm600. This price not inclusive of repair and replacement of parts.
Some things confirmed need to be replaced if the engine is opened up. cry.gif

Have you experience the metal cranking sound with car jerking issues?
What maybe the cause of this problem?

icon_question.gif Need help pls notworthy.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:58 PM

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change mechanic. he is doing trial and error
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ Jun 30 2016, 01:58 PM)
change mechanic. he is doing trial and error
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Where can you recommend nearby Sri Petaling area? My car is not able to move sad.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 30 2016, 01:59 PM)
consider untung oredi can last 9 yrs without wasting cuti sakit MC
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careful driver here smile.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:03 PM

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U should always check simple stuff first, such as fuel filter.

No fuel = jerk... die
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 30 2016, 01:55 PM)
Car is Myvi 1.0 Manual, age of car is about 9 years +

this month my car spoiled 3 times.. suddenly the car just 'fell asleep' while driving on highway..
1st time fix: mechanic say engine plug need to change
Damage cost: nearly RM100  sad.gif
Fixed ady, then 2 weeks later same thing happened. But before the car 'feel asleep', the car was jerking.

2nd time fix: say clutch, drive shaft and timing sensor spoiled, so need change also
Damage cost: nearly RM1k  rclxub.gif  bye.gif
Fixed ady, then 1 day later same thing happened AGAIN! This time got metal cranking sounds, car jerking, lost of power, and yellow engine light on, and it fell asleep.
Able to start the car after a few minutes of rest (car very sleepy i think)

3rd time, want to fix: say mayb it's engine issue, if open it up, labor charge ady rm600. This price not inclusive of repair and replacement of parts.
Some things confirmed need to be replaced if the engine is opened up.  cry.gif

Have you experience the metal cranking sound with car jerking issues?
What maybe the cause of this problem?

icon_question.gif  Need help pls  notworthy.gif
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Check your spark plugs and your fuel pump. maybe fuel not delivered correctly to your engine. Usually if no overheating is not engine problem. and if your car 9 years havnt overhaul u might want to consider...maybe your piston rings dirty or something

This post has been edited by ketupatjahat: Jun 30 2016, 02:05 PM
TSjeffro
post Jun 30 2016, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(5tar5cr3am @ Jun 30 2016, 02:03 PM)
U should always check simple stuff first, such as fuel filter.

No fuel = jerk... die
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Impossible to drive with no fuel.. it was nearly full tank in all 3 incidents..
do you mean the fuel pump?

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post Jun 30 2016, 02:05 PM

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Its myvi. what dayya expect?
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:07 PM

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time to change car
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QUOTE(king_shazman @ Jun 30 2016, 02:05 PM)
Its myvi. what dayya expect?
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should be ok ma.. myvi is a 'made out' of toyota cars.. lasted 9 years, i was hoping it goes beyond 10 actually.. blush.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:08 PM

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should be fully paid right? just let it go, old car could easily turn into money pit. all those repair could do downpayment
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 30 2016, 02:05 PM)
Impossible to drive with no fuel.. it was nearly full tank in all 3 incidents..
do you mean the fuel pump?
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No, I mean maybe your fuel filter is clogged, have you changed them before?
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 30 2016, 01:55 PM)
Car is Myvi 1.0 Manual, age of car is about 9 years +

this month my car spoiled 3 times.. suddenly the car just 'fell asleep' while driving on highway..
1st time fix: mechanic say engine plug need to change
Damage cost: nearly RM100  sad.gif
Fixed ady, then 2 weeks later same thing happened. But before the car 'feel asleep', the car was jerking.

2nd time fix: say clutch, drive shaft and timing sensor spoiled, so need change also
Damage cost: nearly RM1k  rclxub.gif  bye.gif
Fixed ady, then 1 day later same thing happened AGAIN! This time got metal cranking sounds, car jerking, lost of power, and yellow engine light on, and it fell asleep.
Able to start the car after a few minutes of rest (car very sleepy i think)

3rd time, want to fix: say mayb it's engine issue, if open it up, labor charge ady rm600. This price not inclusive of repair and replacement of parts.
Some things confirmed need to be replaced if the engine is opened up.  cry.gif

Have you experience the metal cranking sound with car jerking issues?
What maybe the cause of this problem?

icon_question.gif  Need help pls  notworthy.gif
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i think ur mechanic started out doing the right thing. sounds like u have ignition issues. if it were me, my first guess would be the spark plugs too. but rm100 is a bit much (my iswara plugs just cost RM30 a set).
clutch, driveshaft and timing sensor? thats pretty unlikely in my opinion.
my second guess would have been that u havent been servicing ur car regularly and your piston rings are damaged so they let in engine oil into the combustion chamber. this slowly builds up sediment on your spark plugs which causes a failure to ignite.
if it is true, then you'll need to do a top overhaul to replace the piston rings.
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:11 PM

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Check oxygen sensor. The symptom is car suddenly stall and can be restart after a while.

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post Jun 30 2016, 02:15 PM

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Lol. Kesian kena scammed.

Most probably spark plug's high tension wire. Same symptom as spoilt spark plug.
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Jun 30 2016, 02:10 PM)
i think ur mechanic started out doing the right thing. sounds like u have ignition issues. if it were me, my first guess would be the spark plugs too. but rm100 is a bit much (my iswara plugs just cost RM30 a set).
clutch, driveshaft and timing sensor? thats pretty unlikely in my opinion.
my second guess would have been that u havent been servicing ur car regularly and your piston rings are damaged so they let in engine oil into the combustion chamber. this slowly builds up sediment on your spark plugs which causes a failure to ignite.
if it is true, then you'll need to do a top overhaul to replace the piston rings.
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I don`t agree on this,

1. Even if you lose one, the car won`t just die, especially when you`re driving. the engine will just feel rough due to 1 piston not igniting.

2. If the piston ring is damaged, you would see black smokes by now. do see any? black smoke is due to engine oil is burnt together with fuel due to engine oil sip through the piston ring.
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(electronictomato @ Jun 30 2016, 02:15 PM)
Lol. Kesian kena scammed.

Most probably spark plug's high tension wire. Same symptom as spoilt spark plug.
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Yes confirm is the high tension wire.
Go change the high tension wire. Becos the 1.0 ej-ve confirm is using high tension wire and not coil on plug.

I bangla car mechanic can confirm this is true.
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(jeffro @ Jun 30 2016, 01:55 PM)
Car is Myvi 1.0 Manual, age of car is about 9 years +

this month my car spoiled 3 times.. suddenly the car just 'fell asleep' while driving on highway..
1st time fix: mechanic say engine plug need to change
Damage cost: nearly RM100  sad.gif
Fixed ady, then 2 weeks later same thing happened. But before the car 'feel asleep', the car was jerking.

2nd time fix: say clutch, drive shaft and timing sensor spoiled, so need change also
Damage cost: nearly RM1k  rclxub.gif  bye.gif
Fixed ady, then 1 day later same thing happened AGAIN! This time got metal cranking sounds, car jerking, lost of power, and yellow engine light on, and it fell asleep.
Able to start the car after a few minutes of rest (car very sleepy i think)

3rd time, want to fix: say mayb it's engine issue, if open it up, labor charge ady rm600. This price not inclusive of repair and replacement of parts.
Some things confirmed need to be replaced if the engine is opened up.  cry.gif

Have you experience the metal cranking sound with car jerking issues?
What maybe the cause of this problem?

icon_question.gif  Need help pls  notworthy.gif
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9 years+ you should consider changing the car. You know most car are beyond their economical usage past 7 years.
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:23 PM

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if you haven't been changing engine oil and gear oil on time every service period (typically 3 months or certain mileage whichever comes first) all these while, you probably need to do an overhaul. If you've been diligently doing that, then like some of the forumers said, start with simple stuffs first. Spark plugs, fuel pump, altenator, etc..

I've been driving mine for 13+ years and I don't really need to do any overhaul because I change engine oil on time every service period.
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