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passmaster14
post Sep 17 2016, 10:40 PM

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Hi all, rarely visit this subforum but would like some opinion on this.

Am looking to replace my 2003 Waja with something that has better fuel consumption, but at the same time not sacrificing cabin space. I spend anywhere between RM200-RM250 a month on petrol as I travel in town quite a bit for meetings, and would like to take that figure down lol.

Was offered a 2013 Civic Hybrid with 31k mileage for ~70k, and wondering if it's better value compared to the City E series? Heard some contrasting comments about maintenance for the civic hybrid: some say it should be cheap since they use same civic parts, but that a lot of mechanics don't want to service it cos of the complex electronics.

Am seriously considering the hybrid since it ticks the important criteria (low FC and large space), but am a bit worried about maintenance. It's also considerably cheaper than a new city. Hoping you guys can shed some light on this, thank you! smile.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Sep 18 2016, 12:19 PM)
if the civic hybrid offered to u is CBU, then it's very worthy but u need to consider the boot space. are u okay with the boot space as the battery occupying 30% of spaces.
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Am coming from a Waja with roughly similar boot space, so it's cool heheh. The model i was quoted is a CBU Thailand unit.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 18 2016, 12:20 PM)
new city vs used civic hybrid..... pretty much comparing a new car with warranty vs an older higher end car which has more expensive parts + wear and tear.... its really a pro, con thing...

about the civic, you should firstly know that while it does share parts with the civic, its parts are more expensive than the city. Secondly if you intend to keep it long term, there is the hybrid 'factor' to consider... how long would it last and when it does need to be fixed, who can deal with it? (so far, from what i gather, it is fairly reliable and the replacement battery isn't that expensive) Mechanics outside should have no issue dealing with the car so long as they dont have to mess with the hybrid system...

*i suggest you join the owners club and ask them more about it first before deciding +  read up on honda's ima... its frankly not as 'clever' as toyota's take on hybrid designs

**lol just a personal opinion... civics were meant to be sportier machines.... this hybrid is a lie!!! mad.gif (jkjk)
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Thanks for the input! Yeah a friend with an insight mentioned before about IMA, but that an "advantage" is that should the battery fail, you still can start it up and run off the petrol engine alone. Parts are also mostly shared with the normal civic (though that's EOL now with the new gen), so technically should still be available...right?


QUOTE(zenix @ Sep 19 2016, 11:55 AM)
well wira isn't so bad especially the 1.5 one the engine and gearbox is relatively bullet proof.
however, the only gremlim you should be cautious of is rust.
because not square?  sweat.gif
any other requirement or usage info?
Checking online the insurance premium for a 2012 3008 with 55% NCB and premium windscreen cover is going to be RM1700++
However, you should check to ensure that also covers the panaroof, as it usually doesn't.
Also another thing to note it doesn't cover panaroof leaking just breaking from stone chips, etc.

Peugeot's are really for people that love their cars.
They're expensive to upkeep and reliability is not their strong point.
If you're just choosing it because it is in your budget range, then even if you get a decent one without issues you'll still feel you bought a lemon.
Hybrid's are pretty much still new stuff in Malaysia.
Malaysian mindset usually is less complicated and old tech is cheaper to maintain.
Which is usually true, there is much maintenance that needs to be done for the Hybrid in terms of it's IMA (hybrid) system since everything is electrical.
However, when it fails I don't think they're up to the task and would recommend you'd go back to Honda 3S to fix it.
Usually at this point you'll get really frustrated with the 3S people as they'll either give you two answers:

1. I dunno how to fix the problem, this kind of problem never happen before, also you never service here (implying the workshop outside did something wrong and honda won't be responsible for it).

2. This is the problem, this is the solution, this is the price. We cannot guarantee it will fix the issue because you never service here.

I think you can go for a Nissan Latio or Nissan X-Gear, as both these cars already suffer heavy depreciation and would fit your requirements.
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Yeah I've heard that some mechanics don't dare to touch hybrids because of the complex electronics. The car is still under warranty, but I was told that since the internals share a lot of similarities in design with normal civic, outside mechanics should also still be able to handle simple jobs. Still on the fence about this hmm.gif

 

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