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post Dec 2 2024, 11:46 PM

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Yo, looking for used car with budget of 30k, i dont demand much but just reliability, so im more inclined towards Toyota or Honda
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post Dec 16 2024, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(FrogBlob @ Dec 3 2024, 10:06 AM)
2012 dugong vios ~25-30k in carsome. same year honda city around same price.

any young children? if need seats with isofix go for the city, the facelifted city (chrome grill) has isofix whereas the vios does not.

do you drive long distance often? everyday driving distance? these info may help others give you better advice as well
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Thanks for the recommendation.

If i can bump this budget up to 40-50k what would you recommend? I think Perodua is fine for me as well.

Consideration is still reliability, it is my first car after moving to KL, I'm still on the fence if this is for trasitionary or I will still with it for like 10 years.

At the current moment I work from home and don't travel around frequently since I have a desk job.

But I would like to explore the better part of Peninsula hopefully when I have the car. So long distance driving possibly once in a while.

About to start a family but not sure children when, so I'm not sure about the baby seating situation.
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post Dec 16 2024, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(FrogBlob @ Dec 16 2024, 10:53 AM)
at this price point can actually go for a decent new car. either myvi or persona would be great.

if dont mind used i'd get the newest city you can get. at around 50k which is 2016-2017 city, depending on spec and condition.

if want no frills and peace of mind, go for new, year end should have discounts if dont mind year end model.

for baby in future, any car from 2013 should be ok since they come with isofix mounts, so you can choose between isofix baby seats or normal seatbelt baby seats. just have to know that baby seats are actually quite large, most times they eat a bit more than 1 person worth of seating space, so a smaller car like a bezza (or any a-segment cars like axia) might be a bit tight if you're carrying more people sometimes. but this is a problem for the future lah.

most important go test drive and see in person  biggrin.gif  dont trust on-paper specs
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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Dec 16 2024, 11:19 AM)
Apart from Frogblob good advice above, further suggest some 10 year planning with your wife. What car does she drive?

If she already has a small hatchback, perhaps you can consider Alza 62K for long distance holidays with her and family not to mention sufficient space for baby seats
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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Dec 16 2024, 11:21 AM)
Agree that the MPV Alza would be helpful for travel IF this car is for longer term usage. 2nd hand Alza (pre 2022 variant) is pretty good, not expensive to maintain (but no ISOFIX).
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Thank you all for the good advice, I’d keep them in mind.

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post Apr 12 2025, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(8066 @ Dec 16 2024, 11:11 PM)
Thank you all for the good advice, I’d keep them in mind.
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I'm back again, this time im setting the budget at 60k for a used Japanese MPV, I saw 2019 Honda BRV seems to be selling around this price. My questions:
1. How is the car in terms for reliability?
2. Maybe ocassional long distance driving in peninsula with wife and/or extended family
3. Any workshops in KL/Selangor region that are good with Honda cars? or back to the Honda workshop?
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post Apr 13 2025, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(dogbert_chew @ Apr 12 2025, 02:11 AM)
Why get a used 6 yr old BRV that's no longer in production when a brand new Alza based on Toyota Veloz is available at a similar price?
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probably i put greater faith on Japanese car over others, but in the end just exploring since i am not decided and not rushed to decide anyway

QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 12 2025, 02:58 AM)
Because Honda yo
VTEC just kicked in yo

It’s not a sound purchase but it’s his money. I’ll pick a new Toyota Alza all day every day.
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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 12 2025, 09:33 AM)
2019 where the 1st owner already put some mileage on it. And standby to get 1-off CVT transmission problem. If kene, standby rm4k -6k for repair. If it me, even rm4k is too expansive for me for repair. Own Accord from new to now 11 years old, bill for normal service never hit rm1k, always about rm500 and below, and no CVT gb. After warranty, most expansive repair are the engine mounting replacement + flywheel oil seal and all seal replace at below rm2k, not included mounting part price cz that one I purchase online.

No 3, buy parts all online and send to nearby workshop with good google reviews rating.
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good to know

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post Apr 23 2025, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 23 2025, 04:22 PM)
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I would put Honda BRV in the same category as Toyota Avanza/Rush G1 and Perodua Aruz.
Reason why is they're all made from a van platform and should be categorised as MPV not SUV, but at the time SUV is all the rage so they repurposed Van platforms to make cheap SUV's. That's why these models usually sit higher than true compact SUV's of the time, e.g. Toyota C-HR and Honda HRV.
So they up the interior to look nicer as an SUV usually means it sits higher and most plush interior compared to MPV/Van.
But it has terrible ride and handling because of its van roots.
Reliability? Yeah it is good enough but under powered thus long distance driving is tiring.
Generally for Honda and Toyota most workshops can handle them, only issue is they honest or not.

2021 Toyota Rush - so this generation of Rush is the twin of the Perodua Aruz, nothing really between them. As a used car punter I suggest you hunt around for G-spec Rush because it will have better accessories than Aruz as even the top spec of Aruz will usually be around the mid-spec for Rush. This is how Toyota plays the game.

2021 Toyota Avanza - the current generation of Avanza and Veloz are basically the same thing. Similar like how they market the Alphard and Vellfire which is basically the same thing but one which is more basic and cheaper used for fleets and the other has design elements and accessories that makes is more luxurious and sporty. However, under the hood it is basically the same, upkeep wise. If you want to go cheaper and max out your money woof then get the full spec Perodua Alza which the current generation is a mirror to the Veloz and Avanza.

2010 Toyota Mark X Zio - if you're wondering what you can get which isn't a shitbox / greybox then you have to look at something older and it will surely be a cash buy. The Mark X Zio is basically the Mark X but stretched to become a 7 seater which is targeting Honda Odyssey as their size and engine displacement are similar, also they're both considered low slung for MPV having that crossover ride height which is a welcome change for two reasons. (1) easier to get in and out, no step so while you're standing the seat height is about as high as your bum. This is a plus point for seniors as too low or too high is not easy for them. (2) drives better as lower on the road. It is a JDM and at this level you should expect it to be a very nice car to be in new grey import was upwards of 180k back in the day. As a car you buy today as long as it wasn't abused setting aside RM5000 for a full service including aircon cleaning and service plus new brake pads, replacing all rubber based parts like timing belts, brake hose, window seals. It will feel refreshed. If there is extra funds replace the shocks and the car will drive like new.

2018 Renault Koleos - okay so you want something newer so you can loan and since it is newer you don't really need/want to set aside funds for any repairs then consider this. It is actually the mirror to the Nissan X-Trail except for the fact that it only seats 5 and have a redone interior and exterior, the engine and gearbox is the same as an X-trail so you can go to any workshop to be maintained no need any conti car specialist. It will have the same pros and cons as the X-trail.

2020 Subaru Forrester - if you can look past the badge this is a good bargain for under 60k you get an SUV body, 7 seater, power boot, relatively reliable and japanesse brand. The biggest downside to most Subaru cars is their selling point, which i the AWD. If you're worried about grip and handling in all sorts of terrains as you travel around then the AWD is a blessing, if you're just driving it around the taman to send kids to school or stuck in traffic then you wouldn't think the AWD is helpful and think it is a fuel guzzler. Since Toyota acquired Subaru their newer cars are all quite reliable. However, Subaru cars not having the critical mass will tend to have slightly more expensive spare parts like Mazda, Mitsubishi, etc.
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An even worst scenario than when we had Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0 and Proton Inspira 2.0
It was almost 1:1 but Proton using proprietary shocks and Lotus tuning meant it is going to be more expensive to replace unless you change all 4 to Lancer shocks.

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G1 Alza was based on G1 Myvi which was based on G1 Daihatsu Boon.
Boon is the granddaddy for the other similar clones such as Sirion, Justy and Passo.
For the case of Myvi the collab part from P2 was mostly on reengineering parts for CKD then local assembly with localized parts makers.
G1 Alza is based on Daihatsu Boon Luminas or Toyota Passo Sette, again I think the collab was mostly on localizing and reducing cost for local production.
P2 only really worked on G3 Myvi on their own based on Toyota's platform and engines at the time.

So saying Alza is Japanese is mostly true.
It has very Toyota-like DNA being a reliable work horse, just enough power, and not fuel guzzler while being an unremarkable grey box to most car lovers, it is a precious work horse for the everyday man.
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Thank you for the very elaborate response and suggestion in where I can look, appreciate it very much. smile.gif


 

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