Yes this is a problem because the seat is low.

Still depends on road gradient. If ure on a slight gradient, auto cruise will 'tekan' to maintain speed thus raising the RPM.

Side windows are Llumar Diamond 6 security tint
Front and rear windscreens are Llumar Gold solar tint

This is the official pairing when you get the tint from authorised Llumar installers.

Also the warranty cert is emailed directly to you. Its an e-warranty cert.

RM2,800.

That's why use Llumar Diamond 6. High IRR, no smart tag problem and reasonable price RM2,800.

Managed to hit 110kmph just now. RPM at 1,800. 90kmph at 1,500 if im not mistaken.

Quite alright. My F10 at 110kmph, RPM at 1,600

Common 'issue' with condition based servicing intervals. The distance travelled will never be the same as the actual. Usually its about 60%. Same with my BMW. No matter how gently we drive, the servicing interval is about 7,000km instead of 10K.

It will be good if you guys can nego a free activecare package. It normally costs RM500 and is used about 8-12 months after the initial coating is done.

But maybe don't mention I told you. Just ask if there is any follow up maintenance for the coating and when he says yes then only ask him if he can give you a free Activecare package.

Guys, on the topic of the condition based maintenance for the Civic turbo variants, no matter how well you drive you will never be able to match the engine oil life span with the actual distance travelled because there is a time element which is used to calculate the intervals. Not just the condition of the oil itself.

This is my experience based on my BMW and my car is only 7 months old. I've tried going in full Eco Pro mode (which is more saving than even the Civic Eco mode because it has energy de-generation) and yet my servicing interval is 8,000km less 2K from the stated 10K.

This was 1 of the reasons why I didn't want to get the Civic Turbo when I learnt that it was condition based servicing.

But it's not really a bad thing to service your car faster. For BMW turbos, there is a common issue with oil sludge build-up which is why most BMW owners are happy to service every 6-7K. But for us, we have 100% free servicing for 5 years or 150,000km. This oil sludge could be an issue with the Civic turbos as well.

But I also think that if ure going to drive slowly and as gently as possible to try and increase your engine oil life span, then u're never going to enjoy your turbo. Might as well have bought the 1.8S.

So my advise is just drive normally and enjoy the turbo. Don't worry too much about the servicing intervals. It wont be a huge 'loss' for you in the long run.

Me! Hope we weren't obstructing anybody!

Yes 1.8S is not condition based servicing. Its based on mileage or duration whichever comes first. Usually its mileage.

Civic uses mineral oil? not fully synthetic?

9500km till your next oil change. Its clear.

Don't forget you are driving a brand new car. The first oil change will be faster cuz of the pollutants. The interval will only stabilise after your first oil change.

Even then as I explained before, for normal driving expect to change the engine oil approx. every 7,000km. If you drive 'hard' then it will be earlier.

Not sure if u pressed anything to get it. But it seems normal to me. It states 9500 till your next oil change.

Just came back from a day trip KL - Ipoh - KL with 4 adults in the car. First highway drive. Managed to hit 150kmph at certain stretches on the return trip. Even had the pleasure of driving in the rain for the first time. Also, took the trunk road for about 40km to avoid the heavy traffic on the NSE.

I must say im quite impressed with the handling and steering feel. If I didn't know it was a Honda, I might have thought it was a conti. Felt very confident driving the car. Although the car is relatively light (approx. 1.25 tonnes), the suspension is firm enough to prevent significant body roll at tight corners and yet soft enough to provide a very comfortable ride. Except for the noise from the tyres, there is very little other road noise penetrating the cabin. Even wind noise from the side mirrors is limited.

I also really liked the wipers. Very smooth and effective despite the large windscreen. Better than even my BMW wipers I must say.

I guess the 2 drawbacks I experienced was firstly the limitation of the 1.8S engine. Mid range acceleration ability is limited so fast overtaking was difficult. But this is easily overcome if you use Sports mode (albeit with increased fuel consumption for sure).

The 2nd drawback was the halogen lights. After being accustomed to HID headlights (Kia Optima K5) since 2012 and LED (BMW) now, I needed a bit of getting used to. Found myself turning on the high beam a lot when I was on the trunk road.

My whole trip today consumed slightly more than half tank of fuel. Didn't use the fill-measure-fill method so can't be certain of the exact consumption.

(P/S No rattling or any defects so far)

This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Jul 8 2016, 03:46 AM

Both very good cars. Its quite difficult to differentiate both. But both have the pros and cons. The K5 drives like a conti. Its a solid car and very good on long journeys. Plus it comes packed with features. The K5 also has a better frontal crash rating than the BMW 5 Series. That's how well built the car is.

I guess the Civic betters the K5 in terms of it's suspension and steering feel. Even though the car is lighter but you feel pretty confident pushing the car to higher speeds. The K5 has better cornering ability because of its large 18 inch rims.

Both good cars for sure. Very difficult to choose between the both. I guess, push comes to shove the differing factor would be the price. The Civic 1.8L is about 30K cheaper.

Guys, just a word of advice.

As much as you feel the car is planted on the road, this is not the car to be hitting very high speeds with. Even my previous 2003 Vios felt planted on the road at high speeds. But the moment you hit some crosswind, thats when you realise your car isn't planted at all. Being planted on a straight road should not be used as an excuse to speed. The Civic is a somewhat light car (the Civic 1.8S is 20kg lighter than the Altis 1.8).

The Civic chassis & suspension system is quite well designed which tends to give you the wrong impression that you are very stable (like a conti). I realised this on my first outstation drive last Thurs. But be assured the Civic is no continental car. There's a difference driving in a BMW at 150kmph vs the Civic at that same speed. The problem comes during evasive manoeuvres at higher speeds. No stability control system will be able to help you then.

Nowadays most accidents on the road are caused by the carelessness of other drivers not ours. The faster you travel, the less time you have in avoidance and control recovery.

Our Civic earned very good crash ratings by the IIHS:
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v...door-sedan/2016

But take a look at the crash pics. That was a result of hitting a barrier at only 64kmph. Imagine what would happen if you hit it at 110kmph or higher. Same with most cars I guess.

Just keep this in mind when you are tempted to go fast especially with your family with you.

You missed my point.

I said that having a feeling of being planted while driving on a straight road should not automatically be equated to being stable. Most cars would be planted somewhat on a straight road. The problem occurs during emergency evasive manoeuvring at higher speeds which is where conti's like BMW, Audi, etc will have that added bit of stability.

Try taking corners in a F10 at 150kmph vs a Civic at that same speed. You will notice the difference. Of course there are many factors that come into play with the type of tyres used amongst the most influential factors. Stability control systems have their limits and at very high speeds, it's generally useless if ure out of control.

Also u need to understand crash ratings. The comparison only works when all cars are impacted at around 64kmph. For example, a small compact car getting a 5 star frontal crash rating doesn't equate to a BMW/Merc getting the same rating. There is a clause in the crash tests which state that frontal crash test ratings should be compared only among vehicles of similar weight.

RPM at 110kmph is 1,800.

How is it possible for the RPM to drop to idle speed when you are in gear and the car is travelling at 110kmph even if you lift your foot off the gas?

Ive experienced my first bug.

This screen keeps popping up and beeping every few secs. Ive tried switching off the car but doesn't help. Its sometimes there and sometimes not. Started 3 days ago.

Anybody experiencing the same?


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