Hey peeps, just wondering where is the best place to study E&E Engineering?
Will be going there after finishing A-Levels, but not sure I want to go overseas, since costs of living is already a burden to my parents.

Is it possible to study degree to get a bachelor degree, then go other university to get master in Engineering?

I think I will get an average of Bs for Math, Chem and Physics for my overall results, if everything goes according to plan.

Technically, I'm not really good at math anymore, it seems like I'd reach my peak in learning math in high school level. I'm not really sure how this will play out in Engineering Course.

Also what is the average cost of 4 years of degree in private uni in Malaysia? around RM 60K?

Also is it possible to make a switch in Engineering Course? Like from first year of Engineering in EnE to Chemical/Mechanical Engineering?

This post has been edited by iSean: Jun 18 2016, 08:40 PM

If you have the budget, then I suggest you go to University of Southampton or University of Nottingham. This is because you can earn overseas degree without going overseas. But please take note that their entry requirements are higher than normal private universities.

Of course you can get a master in Engineering from other universities! Most importantly your GPA must met the minimum requirements of the respective universities though.

For private unis the tuition fees ranged about 10K~50K annually.

You need to enquire the uni that you are entering to make sure whether you are able to change engineering stream or not in the second year.

Not really funded will be borrowing BR1M. But I'd have considered Nottingham, just that driving to Nottingham might be a big hassle.

Hopefully I can pull myself together to get 3A or 3A* to do so...
if not not consider to think about.

How about Monash or Herriot Watt? Monash has quite an established engineering faculty, but HW is still quite new but nonetheless its still a branch campus of a respectable UK uni.

And the entry requirements for any private uni isn't that high. At most perhaps BBB or the very most they can ask for is ABB. Though I am sure if there's spare capacity, the aforementioned unis may even let you in with CCC or even CCD

University of Southampton needs A*AA for entry haha.

wah so high ah... but got so many a*aa students who decide to go there for it to sustain itself meh..

hmm went to their website, it was stated

'Our standard offers are listed below but where we have places available, students may be admitted with slightly lower grades'

guess we all know what that means~

Yes, driving to university of Nottingham everyday is kinda waste of time, especially that traffic jam in Jalan Semenyih. Not to mention, it only increases carbon footprint.

If you have chosen Nottingham, considered taking accommodation near to that university, either it is TTS house, Univillage, Tetris apartment or better still, on-campus accommodation. Of course, all these comes with accommodation fees which isn't included in tuition fees.

Actually for Nottingham, the entry requirement is not that stringent. There's a few students who are major in biology for A-level or STPM can still get in engineering courses. I believe that the university needs more money, so they just take in whoever apply (lol). Of course, the recommended grade would be BBB if you wanna apply Nottingham.

Bit late to the game, but if you're not really good in maths, you'll suffer in EnE. In saying that, there's been a whole lot of dumbing down of math topics in universities, even overseas.

Price wise, UTAR and TARUC are the cheapest, but TARUC is not accreditated yet (I think) by the Engineering Accreditation Council.

MMU, Uniten, and UTP used to have good reputations. Not sure about now, but their syllabi are more mature.

Switching is not that hard in private universities, but you'll need to retake some subjects.

What I'd suggest is do your degree locally and go overseas for your master's/PhD if you plan to do that, and can't get a scholarship right now for your bachelor's.

UTAR's 3E degree isn't too bad. The President is an IEEE Fellow and emphasises a lot on 3E. 2 of the 3 VPs are also from 3E background. It's more focused on electrical rather than electronics/software, but you can always pick software up on your own.

If you have interest in moving to the software side of things for electrical & electronic engineering like embedded systems, networking, etc., MMU used to be strong in that area. Not sure about now, though.

Source: Former EEE lecturer.

Well thank you for the reply for this post.
To be honest, I'm not sure I'm capable of doing Engineering with my Mathematics (55% D) and Physics (62% C) for my A-levels, despite the minimum requirement for most Private Uni is 2Es and above, because I was devoted myself to Chemistry and Biology as they were my stronger subjects, because I thought it I might be going to Biotech, but it is not a demanding field in Malaysia job prospect wise, and discouragement from my parents.

Hence, I thought why not Robotics and Electronics through EEE? But it was hard to handle 4 subjects with A-Levels, but me myself, and my lecturers couldn't let me really understand Maths and Physics as they just literally just copied from the textbook, unlike my Chemistry and Biology lecturer teaches using slides and checkpoint lectures.

I have still around 8 months before I official chose my university, I'm not sure will be retaking my A-Levels for Chemistry, Physics and Mathematics for May/June to improve better marks to get into a better university or apply for scholarships.

To be honest, UTAR is okay, but I'm not sure the quality of lecturer teaching nowadays.
I'm afraid I will meet someone like my A-Level Physics lecturer, a PhD Holder, but don't know how to engage with the lecture, explain proper concepts, and derive equations. But just everyday copy his hand written notes on the board. And read through it that's all.

But the complaints I heard from UTAR which are unprofessional marking by lecturers, who some purposely/unintentionally failed students in mostly humanities courses, and students have to pay for a remark for the paper to found out they didn't done that poorly can even get a good grade.

Meanwhile for MMU, I don't think I plan to go there since they apparently split Electrical and Electronics to two programs. So I'm not so keen on that.

UNITEN I'm still looking into it. But not sure how's the environment there tho.

UTP I can't consider as I underdelivered for Mathematics by roughly 5%...

Do you have any regards on UCSI tho?
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If I'm going to restudy for Pre-U Mathematics from STPM and A-Level Syllabus,
Which Topics should I be specifically emphasize on, if I'm still dedicated into this field?

Algebra
Logarithmic and Exponential Functions
Trigonometry
Differentiation
Integration
Numerical Solutions of Equations
Vectors
Differential Equations
Complex Numbers
Sequences and Series
Matrices
Analytic Geometry
Maclaurin Series

Try chemical engineering instead. Maybe something you'd like more.

As for lecturers purposely failing students, that's all crap. If anything, lecturers are purposely passing students. Happens in almost every university in Malaysia, even the public ones.

Let me tell you what happens when you fail too many students:
1. You need to write a long report justifying why they are so many failures. Ends up being your problem as a lousy lecturer, and you need to write a plan on how to improve your teaching methods next time round.
2. Students ask for remarking. They pay the university, not the lecturer. The lecturer gains nothing from remarking. In fact, it wastes their time and gives them more paperwork as there are lots of forms to fill. Not just the examiner, but also other lecturers to verify the examiner's results. Almost every single time it is due to students not being able to accept they did badly in their exams.
3. If you really made a mistake marking, you're screwed. No bonus for the year. Really. Therefore, papers are marked really, really carefully.
4. You get questioned about your teaching methods, and may need to attend a teaching course.

Trust me on this, most lecturers try to get as many students to pass as possible. Same thing in public unis. Maybe even worse there.

Students who fail just do really, really badly in their studies. Maybe they are expecting to breeze through uni like how they breezed through school with tuition classes, spoon feeding, leaked questions, whatever. It's easier to blame someone else for their problems.

Every university has good and bad teachers. Good thing is, if the faculty is big, you won't get to see them too frequently. Some professors feel they need to excel in teaching, and prepare really well for it. Some think of it as a nuisance, and just go through it as a routine.

Actually, splitting Electrical and Electronics isn't really a big deal, to me. The Board of Engineers, Malaysia is going to allow you to register for only one anyway.

Haven't had much experience with UCSI.


I think the first group you should know pretty well as a basic. And the second group is something they'd spend much time on teaching in university. But I think they'll all be repeated in the degree programme again because most students haven't grasped the basics.

Algebra
Logarithmic and Exponential Functions
Trigonometry
Differentiation
Integration
Complex Numbers
Matrices
Analytic Geometry
Vectors
Sequences and Series


Numerical Solutions of Equations
Differential Equations
Maclaurin Series

This post has been edited by thesoothsayer: Jan 14 2017, 08:18 AM

Okay thanks for the Maths recommendations because my pace wasn't that fast in Mathematics as I lack doing exercises and past papers, so doing 6 hours a day I guess. Speed isn't my greatest point as I'm very cautious in every step.

Oh yeah I been seeing cheap GCs selling in my College lately, should I get one tho? TEXAS INS. TI84.

What do you mean registered only one? By the Board of Engineers? Means despite doing the course for Electrical and Electronics Degree I only be recognized as either one, Electrical or Electronics only by the Board?

Erm is a cheat sheet for Trigo differentiation and Integration tho? Because I'm not encouraged to always memorize them by my A level lecturer.

This post has been edited by iSean: Jan 14 2017, 09:28 AM

I don't teach maths, but I think most formulas and equations are given.

Some universities only allow simple scientific calculators.

Anyway, consider the Wolfram alpha app for your smartphone.

Okay thanks, but may I ask though what do you teach in EE/EEE?
Oh yeah you haven't tell me the issue regarding Boards of Engineering, Malaysia.

Okay thanks, but may I ask though what do you teach in EE/EEE?
Oh yeah you haven't tell me the issue regarding Boards of Engineering, Malaysia.

Quite a number of subjects. Mostly year 1 and 2. I work mostly on software and communications, though.

For BEM, you need to choose between electrical and electronics. They'll base it on your work experience and subjects taken.

My degree was electrical and electronics but they said my subjects taken during my degree was closer to electronics. I'm fine with that as my job doesn't really require an Ir title. Just be wary if you plan to go into electrical engineering as a consultant.

This post has been edited by thesoothsayer: Jan 14 2017, 08:31 PM

"Just be wary if you plan to go into electrical engineering as a consultant."
What do you mean by that?

Means like a Project Manager?
Because I thought like working with a group of engineers in a cooperate tho.

This post has been edited by iSean: Jan 14 2017, 09:03 PM

??? you want to work in a corporate environment? engineering is not the way to go if that's the case...

engineering is hopeless.

business
or design
or apps/programming

have better future.

self learning in 2017 make more sense

work on pre-calc first:
Algebra
Logarithmic and Exponential Functions
Trigonometry
Vectors
Sequences and Series
Analytic Geometry
Maclaurin Series

then do calculus and DE:
Differentiation
Integration
Numerical Solutions of Equations
Differential Equations