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halcyon27
post Nov 21 2017, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(Chintu @ Nov 20 2017, 10:57 PM)
I need to find and buy a new water heater. I found information about the difference between an electric and a gas water heater https://www.newtanklesswaterheaters.com/wat...know-pros-cons/
I am in need of more information. My contractor recommended a electric tankless water heater but they don’t make it now I feel he is not the best source of information either. What can you recommend?
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Tankless or instant is when you want ease of use and no hacking. It is not ideal for long duration high volume flow esp rain shower but can still work. Built-in pump is optional for condo (usually not necessary) but mandatory for top floor landed.

Tank storage hot water is when two or more bath outlets require centralised hot water. Assumes hot water plumbing already installed otherwise need to hack. Centralised is natural stepping stone to installing other centralised hot water systems like solar hot water or gas as the central hot water plumbing distribution is already there. Here the centralised tank will be relegated to backup heater on continuous rainy days. Pump is required for all top floor bathrooms or where pressure is weak.

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post Nov 22 2017, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Chintu @ Nov 21 2017, 08:07 PM)
Thank you for your advice!
Which pump would you recommend to choose?
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I take it that you live in a landed then? The Panasonic models are good..They have been around for a long while. If your looking for a dedicated centralised water pump, refer to this thread. But I strongly don't recommend dedicated centralised pump unless used with centralised heater storage tank. Too many things can go wrong with two separate systems and a pressure reducer will have to be installed before the instant water heater.
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post Nov 28 2017, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(jason1986 @ Nov 28 2017, 12:06 PM)
it's pensonic. using it for my guest bathroom which is seldom used.

Model is 967ep i think.

for master room toilet, i am using panasonic. http://www.lazada.com.my/panasonic-r-serie...sc=MeoE&rb=1258

Pensonic is ac pump, abit noisy but better power. can control power. 1 year warranty on pump.

Panasonic not so noisy as it is dc pump. cant control pump speed but 5 years warranty on pump. need to change shower head. the one they gave is basic.
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Can't control pump means cannot turn it only on when you need it? Means once heater turned on, pump also on?

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post Nov 29 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(jason1986 @ Nov 29 2017, 08:41 AM)
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I see. Some models had optional pump control switch like Alpha / Joven rain shower model. Condos except for the top two floors don't need built in pump. Landed as well top two floor of condos will require. Anyway, here's an old gem of a thread complete with videos by zheilwane. This one too by ozak.

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post Dec 28 2017, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Dec 27 2017, 05:01 PM)
I posted the above review in July 2016 and now my 2nd Alpha Smart 18E die today.  I guess smart water heater with smart chip doesn't last.

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Cause of unit's demise attributed to what? This is condo or landed? If disconnecting the water pipe at the cold inlet, what kind of water comes out in the morning? Could it be that humidity is very high in the shower area? See if mitigating with a wall mounted or glass mounted extractor fan helps before deciding on the next replacement?

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