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post Jun 15 2016, 12:13 AM, updated 10y ago

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stupid specs with unreasonable price?

Good luck Proton...



NO PROTON HANDLING......Not allow by HHUUUnda

NO CVT?

No push start button? ...what a bu***hit

and still sell at 100-140k?

pui...u the reason I dun suppork this car...

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post Jun 15 2016, 12:16 AM

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Just wait. Later they will put 6 airbags to all variant and vsc
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QUOTE(xpole @ Jun 15 2016, 12:16 AM)
Just wait. Later they will put 6 airbags to all variant and vsc
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But can they breach the contract with Honda about it? Coz I heard Honda said they can't put 6 airbags n vsc on the 2.0 model right?
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(lowyard @ Jun 15 2016, 12:18 AM)
But can they breach the contract with Honda about it? Coz I heard Honda said they can't put 6 airbags n vsc on the 2.0 model right?
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safety issue first problem?

why the hack the interior almost the same accord?? wtf proton
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i rather buy second hand accord instead.
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:21 AM

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Its basically a Honda .
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QUOTE(lonelynora @ Jun 15 2016, 12:20 AM)
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:22 AM

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'Honda' was mentioned how many time weiiii
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:23 AM

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Ewww the reviewer
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:24 AM

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A Proton will always be a Proton
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:24 AM

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RM100k plus at a time when people are losing jobs. Good idea proton! Good idea!!!!!!
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:25 AM

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No matter what car it is, once potong badge was put in front, instantly become cheap car.
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:28 AM

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Is proton tak bayar diaorang, I wonder what they'll said truthfully?

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Why look like fatter saga?
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:29 AM

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who is the bloody fatso doing car review?
ask him go slim down before doing car review.
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(nintendo86 @ Jun 15 2016, 12:23 AM)
Ewww the reviewer
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those Tom Ford glasses tho.
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:31 AM

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post Jun 15 2016, 12:34 AM

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proton for stupid people.

nuff said,
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The only Proton worth buying is saga...
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:39 AM

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How many unit a month they intend to sell?
2000? - can make profit? Oh wait profit not important because gamen will bail out with TONGKAT
5000? - can sell that many units? Ask the other manufacturers to tie their hands behind their backs hahahaha

But seriously, plotong fanboys has zero knowledge about economics

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interior dashboard design and the gauge meter design seem kind of old... not worth the price shocking.gif
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Ewww the reviewer
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yeah, can't they get a better looking reviewer? or at least touch up his acne-ridden face?

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QUOTE(vexus @ Jun 15 2016, 12:29 AM)
who is the bloody fatso doing car review?
ask him go slim down before doing car review.
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:53 AM

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With the price .

I think people will prefer madza or Honda @.@ .

Maybe should improve the saga and make saga much better.. that will be the best idea .
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post Jun 15 2016, 12:55 AM

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Nak buka berape tered perdana dalam satu hari?

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Cheaper to buy used 2008 Accord instead. Many still in good condition. Extra savings will go for minor repairs and basic expenses.
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Potong kena con dengan hunda.

Potong try to con fanboi.

VW tepuk tangan.
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:00 AM

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all honda...
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QUOTE(itanium @ Jun 15 2016, 12:39 AM)
How many unit a month they intend to sell?
2000? - can make profit? Oh wait profit not important because gamen will bail out with TONGKAT
5000? - can sell that many units? Ask the other manufacturers to tie their hands behind their backs hahahaha

But seriously, plotong fanboys has zero knowledge about economics
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They say hope 3000 units by end this year. Hmmm....... I am seriously thinking of them padding the numbers if the target is not reached. Investors will rage. Gov no comment even though they buy in.
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QUOTE(~Sherlock~ @ Jun 15 2016, 12:24 AM)
RM100k plus at a time when people are losing jobs. Good idea proton! Good idea!!!!!!
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sparepart honda tu boleh cucuk dan main pada perdana?
cth headlamp pecah. boleh pakai honda punya?
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 12:43 AM)
Porche Cayenne also a rebadge from VW Tuareg.
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porche mmg mhal kat malaysia mmg tak hairan ni yg hairan brand murah tetiba dijual mahal.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:00 AM)
They say hope 3000 units by end this year. Hmmm....... I am seriously thinking of them padding the numbers if the target is not reached. Investors will rage. Gov no comment even though they buy in.
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ni kereta proton pertama dtg dengan 2.4cc kan?
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jun 15 2016, 01:08 AM)
ni kereta proton pertama dtg dengan 2.4cc kan?
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Yeah. Their max was 2.0 in Perdana & Inspira. Waja, Putra, Satria & Wira limited 1.8.

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What????? No Proton ride and handling?
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Jun 15 2016, 01:09 AM)
What????? No Proton ride and handling?
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Seriously no one mods these kind of cars. Even aftermarket dampers and springs are hard to come by.
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:05 AM)
Found the price of Accord :

Honda Accord 2.0 Vti Rm 141k
Honda Accord 2.0 Vti-l Rm 152k

Proton Perdana 2.0 Rm 113k

Difference RM 28K- 39K

Honda Accord 2.4 Rm 178k
Proton Perdana 2.4 Rm 138k.

Difference Rm 40K.

Moneywise choosing perdana is much wiser than honda accord. This is because like how Inspira did to the Mitsubishi Lancer.
After the inspira otr nobody care much about the lancer uniqueness and the value of the lancer went down tremendously.
The accord will be the same as the lancer.

For the first handvalue, in my opinion i would be choosing perdana 2.4 and save 40k while getting the same engine , chassis, and the safety of the 178k Accord.
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same chassis ?
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:13 AM

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Expensive so they can use the extra money to help build up PROTON back..can you see the game here..
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:09 AM)
Yeah. Their max was 2.0 in Perdana & Inspira. Waja, Putra, Satria & Wira limited 1.8.
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if this perdana price cheapest in 2.4cc category Proton can win the battle.

btw. 2.4cc utk model perdana dtg dari mana?
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so the review is saying this Proton Perdana is too much Honda, too little Proton and with Proton badge?
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:05 AM)
Found the price of Accord :

Honda Accord 2.0 Vti Rm 141k
Honda Accord 2.0 Vti-l Rm 152k

Proton Perdana 2.0 Rm 113k

Difference RM 28K- 39K

Honda Accord 2.4 Rm 178k
Proton Perdana 2.4 Rm 138k.

Difference Rm 40K.

Moneywise choosing perdana is much wiser than honda accord. This is because like how Inspira did to the Mitsubishi Lancer.
After the inspira otr nobody care much about the lancer uniqueness and the value of the lancer went down tremendously.
The accord will be the same as the lancer.

For the first handvalue, in my opinion i would be choosing perdana 2.4 and save 40k while getting the same engine , chassis, and the safety of the 178k Accord.
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Same engine, chassis with current accord?
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QUOTE(magnesium @ Jun 15 2016, 01:18 AM)
Same engine, chassis with current accord?
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haha. resale value instant drop 70%

if they have problem with their car again.
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Engineers only allowed to changed the tire rubbers which are now quiter by 2db??
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jun 15 2016, 01:17 AM)
if this perdana price cheapest in 2.4cc category Proton can win the battle.

btw. 2.4cc utk model perdana dtg dari mana?
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Should be this model. 2008 one.

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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Jun 15 2016, 12:13 AM)
stupid specs with unreasonable price?

Good luck Proton...



NO PROTON HANDLING......Not allow by HHUUUnda

NO CVT?

No push start button?  ...what a bu***hit

and still sell at 100-140k?

pui...u the reason I dun suppork this car...
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1: Honda Handling is good... just that Proton has its own lotus character... too bad... but as Honda driver here the handling is better than so called floaty god car
2: I hate CVT.... it is one piece of stupid gearbox that take away the fun of driving, the feel, and add a little fuel economy with alot of vibration, jerking and RUBBER BAND FEEL YUCK!!!
3: Yeah only blade key... haihhhhhhhhhhhh
4: 100K for a D segment car is actually cheap!!! really.....

also look at it the engine is a Honda powertrain, you know it is solid engine, the 2.0 is R series, used in New Civic, HRV and 2.0 current accord Earthdream. it is very good engine...

on the 2.4 it is a tried and tested workhorse K series Honda Engine... K24z which is one heck solid engine!
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QUOTE(magnesium @ Jun 15 2016, 01:18 AM)
Same engine, chassis with current accord?
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2.0 variant same engine as current Accord 2.0 variant..both use R20A3 engine
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Lol at "Honda not allowed proton to change anything" accept tire...lol kroni no lobang liao..
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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Jun 15 2016, 01:24 AM)
2.0 variant same engine as current Accord 2.0 variant..both use R20A3 engine
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Than perdana is a good buy.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:23 AM)
Should be this model. 2008 one.

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this model utk orang tua laaa. kita orang muda mana minat.kalau exwcutive atau director pakai ok la.
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:22 AM)
I guess it would need to be same chassis if not same chassis then it could not be considered as rebadge.

If proton build the body and chassis then it will be consider as original proton design but using accord engine.

If proton design the body and chassis then i would check on the car crash test rating. Will it get 5 star or lower star safety rating.
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All Honda cars are 5 star NCAP/ACAP/NTSHA since 2000 (check your facts)

So since this Perdana is based on the previous Gen accord, it is a 5 star NCAP rating car with GCON crash tested design chasis, Basically crash tested by Honda Real World Crash Test Facility which surpass every NCAP out there...

Yes it is normal to rebadge... Even Mercedes rebadge Hilux pickup truck... so Mercedes is as bad as proton???

Fiat Rebadge Mazda MX5....

Renault Fluence is basically a Nissan Silphy...

not to mention BRZ and Toyota

In this world rebadge is common to save cost... and maximize mass production capacity....
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jun 15 2016, 01:28 AM)
this model utk orang tua laaa. kita orang muda mana minat.kalau exwcutive atau director pakai ok la.
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Meaning you still poor fag cannot afford hahahah!!!!
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 01:30 AM)
All Honda cars are 5 star NCAP/ACAP/NTSHA since 2000 (check your facts)

So since this Perdana is based on the previous Gen accord, it is a 5 star NCAP rating car with GCON crash tested design chasis, Basically crash tested by Honda Real World Crash Test Facility which surpass every NCAP out there...

Yes it is normal to rebadge... Even Mercedes rebadge Hilux pickup truck... so Mercedes is as bad as proton???

Fiat Rebadge Mazda MX5....

Renault Fluence is basically a Nissan Silphy...

not to mention BRZ and Toyota

In this world rebadge is common to save cost... and maximize mass production capacity....
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Got big difference in rebadging and platform sharing. Dun be mistaken.
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jun 15 2016, 01:28 AM)
this model utk orang tua laaa. kita orang muda mana minat.kalau exwcutive atau director pakai ok la.
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Their target buyer also somewhere there la. The previous gen Perdana aka Mitsubishi Galant (Eterna) last time also young ppl dun want to buy. Until people start to mod and the car gets way cheap it is the budget choice of youngsters. Nowdays can see quite a lot of Perdana with Evo engines inside because car is cheap and engine choice is powerful.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:32 AM)
Got big difference in rebadging and platform sharing. Dun be mistaken.
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If not mistaken Rebadging is very common... so with Platform share

BRZ and Toyota 86 and Scion FR-S is basically just change Badge...

Also Mazda 2 and Toyota yaris is also rebadge....

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 01:37 AM)
If not mistaken Rebadging is very common... so with Platform share

BRZ and Toyota 86 and Scion FR-S is basically just change Badge...

Also Mazda 2 and Toyota yaris is also rebadge....

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Got different. Platform sharing means engine/ chassis same. Whatever top can be different. Like Selphy/ Fluence, you can see no similarities. But under pining all same. Rebadging means everything is same with some minor cosmetic differences. You can say Proton is platform sharing with Honda. But there are many reuse parts inside the car to be called platform sharing. Much like how VW lets their older models be Skoda.

Potong as a company already damaged itself so badly, no one would even wanna give them the benefit of doubt. People will only buy their cars if they are cheap. As a guy on the street i will definitely say the old Perdana was around 100K. New one is overpriced. As a person who compares cars, yeah it is cheapest among same class. But you look at the high amount of old Perdanas on the road these days only say much about what people are wiling to spend on them. People with RM160-180K budget would not look at it at all and would go Japanese.
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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Jun 15 2016, 12:13 AM)
stupid specs with unreasonable price?

Good luck Proton...



NO PROTON HANDLING......Not allow by HHUUUnda

NO CVT?

No push start button?  ...what a bu***hit

and still sell at 100-140k?

pui...u the reason I dun suppork this car...
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wah

really?

thats a shame

part of reason why i choose iriz instead of jazz is for the handling and ride comfort


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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:22 AM)
I guess it would need to be same chassis if not same chassis then it could not be considered as rebadge.

If proton build the body and chassis then it will be consider as original proton design but using accord engine.

If proton design the body and chassis then i would check on the car crash test rating. Will it get 5 star or lower star safety rating.
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check video 1.46 second .... 30k cheaper (is that cheaper? even their old stock, preown might be cheaper).
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Lol the interior and steering is fxxxing ugly for 2016 and brand flagship model. Imagine one have to go through 7-9 years Loan for this shit. Better get used accord lol
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Buy Honda Civic 1.8S at RM110,426 better. New 2016 model posted by Paul Tan 4 days ago.

<a href='http://<link removed>/2016/06/10/2016-honda-civic-malaysia-specs-nutshell/' target='_blank'>http://<link removed>/2016/06/10/2016-honda-c...specs-nutshell/</a>

Edit: link removed? whatever ler..

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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Jun 15 2016, 12:13 AM)
stupid specs with unreasonable price?



NO PROTON HANDLING......Not allow by HHUUUnda
pui...u the reason I dun suppork this car...
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No Proton handling is good or bad?

I thought Proton handling is wantonmee handling?
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 02:37 AM)
If not mistaken Rebadging is very common... so with Platform share

BRZ and Toyota 86 and Scion FR-S is basically just change Badge...

Also Mazda 2 and Toyota yaris is also rebadge....

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Isn't that a Scion IA. Quite expensive here yo.. (18k) But that car packed with all tech.. tapao proton tech.. keyless all semua ada..

Btw IA is even using the same mazda engine.. if I not mistaken
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Sedap sangat ke cornering proton weyy
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QUOTE(perrrhhh @ Jun 15 2016, 03:49 AM)
Sedap sangat ke cornering proton weyy
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 01:37 AM)
If not mistaken Rebadging is very common... so with Platform share

BRZ and Toyota 86 and Scion FR-S is basically just change Badge...

Also Mazda 2 and Toyota yaris is also rebadge....

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I wonder if there were any Car Markers want to share or interested in Iriz platform
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:44 AM)
But the price could make a difference.

Let compare honda Civic vs Proton Perdana.

Honda Civic 1.8 Rm 113k

Proton Perdana 2.0 Rm 113k

With the same price as Honda Civic but getting Honda Accord 2.0 VTi Engine and features.
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isn't it the results of MITI unfair discrimination on the calculation of excise duty? you see the new perdana price difference between Manland and langkawi was only less that rm10k.

while Honda Civic which sold in Australia for RM62k kene charge kaw kaw, then add DRB profit margins on top of it as well then we end up paying double?
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Isn't there a conflict of interest since the parent company also distributes Honda in Malaysia? There's incentive present to make either one brand lame. Good thing they can rely on government to buy their cars in addition to the billion Ringgit loan.

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Sedap sangat ke cornering proton weyy
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It's still a decent car underneath but I suspect spare parts are going to be Honda pricing
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 15 2016, 12:55 AM)
Cheaper to buy used 2008 Accord instead. Many still in good condition. Extra savings will go for minor repairs and basic expenses.
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Once i really fall in love with the 2006 accord 2.0 auto.. If buy now u think ok or not? Maintenance and etc stuff.. Thanks..
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2006 too old and too ugly.
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this price can go for recond estima better space and more seat
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:05 AM)
Found the price of Accord :

Honda Accord 2.0 Vti Rm 141k
Honda Accord 2.0 Vti-l Rm 152k

Proton Perdana 2.0 Rm 113k

Difference RM 28K- 39K

Honda Accord 2.4 Rm 178k
Proton Perdana 2.4 Rm 138k.

Difference Rm 40K.

Moneywise choosing perdana is much wiser than honda accord. This is because like how Inspira did to the Mitsubishi Lancer.
After the inspira otr nobody care much about the lancer uniqueness and the value of the lancer went down tremendously.
The accord will be the same as the lancer.

For the first handvalue, in my opinion i would be choosing perdana 2.4 and save 40k while getting the same engine , chassis, and the safety of the 178k Accord.
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Accord - 9th generation.
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dun worry jibby will protek. buy a lot of this car to show that without mahazir proton is better.
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Go buy the New Civic la..

Better than Perdana lol....

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although i own iriz..i agree on this..
i would never buy proton cars over RM50k if their current quality did not improve..
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Own brand car pricier than imported tax 200 car
Tis logic reli Kenot brain
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QUOTE(acbc @ Jun 15 2016, 08:55 AM)
2006 too old and too ugly.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 01:37 AM)
If not mistaken Rebadging is very common... so with Platform share

BRZ and Toyota 86 and Scion FR-S is basically just change Badge...

Also Mazda 2 and Toyota yaris is also rebadge....

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biasa la tu. A haters always find a reason to hate. Rebadging, platform sharing, technology transfer, everything is the same. But proton doesnt rebadge blindly like Naza. For this perdana they actually invest a lot for tooling. But the fake exhaust tip and the outdated interior really a turn off. The max price should also not exceed RM120k. Their most expensive C segment is RM90k. Perdana lowest spec pricing at RM113k is totally unacceptable.
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How much Honda pay u?
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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Jun 15 2016, 12:13 AM)
stupid specs with unreasonable price?

Good luck Proton...



NO PROTON HANDLING......Not allow by HHUUUnda

NO CVT?

No push start button?  ...what a bu***hit

and still sell at 100-140k?

pui...u the reason I dun suppork this car...
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why so many similarity with honda accord ... proton lack of ideas or what?
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QUOTE(Faiz_captain @ Jun 15 2016, 09:55 AM)
You still can buy previous gen accord?perdana using previous gen accord and current accord is latest gen bodoh
Check the spec list bodoh and compare the spec list bodoh
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if you wanna get ah moi..would u buy proton or honda?

think wisely man... girls nowdays are materialistic..they care on what car u ar driving.

if i was u.. i will go for god car.


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QUOTE(~Sherlock~ @ Jun 15 2016, 12:24 AM)
RM100k plus at a time when people are losing jobs. Good idea proton! Good idea!!!!!!
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they should put 30k right ? so poorfag like u can buy
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QUOTE(axelrade @ Jun 15 2016, 04:17 PM)
biasa la tu. A haters always find a reason to hate. Rebadging, platform sharing, technology transfer, everything is the same. But proton doesnt rebadge blindly like Naza. For this perdana they actually invest a lot for tooling. But the fake exhaust tip and the outdated interior really a turn off. The max price should also not exceed RM120k. Their most expensive C segment is RM90k. Perdana lowest spec pricing at RM113k is totally unacceptable.
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I agree with the exhaust tip.... at least a chrome laaaa

on the Dashboard... it still look very good vs the current say Camry....

It has a 2 tier LCD layout and quite BMW inspired... frankly although not new but I say the design language of this dashboard still good...
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QUOTE(warham @ Jun 15 2016, 04:36 PM)
Basically is a honda.

Based on the fatso, proton only change tyre lol
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QUOTE(warham @ Jun 15 2016, 04:36 PM)
Basically is a honda.

Based on the fatso, proton only change tyre lol
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Ya Honda in disguise

Hope face lift version get update on 2017
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QUOTE(iAlien @ Jun 15 2016, 12:19 AM)
safety issue first problem?

why the hack the interior almost the same accord?? wtf proton
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Because honda not allowing it. More likely, they want to clear the inventory of the parts, once cleared, they allowed proton to change or to use their own parts.

QUOTE(itanium @ Jun 15 2016, 12:39 AM)
How many unit a month they intend to sell?
2000? - can make profit? Oh wait profit not important because gamen will bail out with TONGKAT
5000? - can sell that many units? Ask the other manufacturers to tie their hands behind their backs hahahaha

But seriously, plotong fanboys has zero knowledge about economics
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7000 of the platform was given by Honda annually to Proton. That is the maximum unit they can sell.
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QUOTE(jasonloke @ Jun 15 2016, 09:08 AM)
this price can go for recond estima better space and more seat
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This - If I can afford, I'll buy Estima rather than Perdana. Not really into large sedan car.
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QUOTE(pohhang @ Jun 15 2016, 06:52 PM)
later got people say siapa hina proton dia kafir/pengkhianat negara.
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Rilek dulu bang ni belum tahap darurat...

Kalau dah saat genting tu mula la pak2 imam, mufti keluar fatwa tak percaya proton serupa tak percaya tuhan 😅😏
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 05:50 PM)
I agree with the exhaust tip.... at least a chrome laaaa

on the Dashboard... it still look very good vs the current say Camry....

It has a 2 tier LCD layout and quite BMW inspired... frankly although not new but I say the design language of this dashboard still good...
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Wait until Proton blow up their Mega Sale RM80K/Proton Perdana 2.4

Then TS beg to have one.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jun 15 2016, 06:18 PM)
Because honda not allowing it. More likely, they want to clear the inventory of the parts, once cleared, they allowed proton to change or to use their own parts.
7000 of the platform was given by Honda annually to Proton.  That is the maximum unit they can sell.
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laaaaa 7000 units cant even recoup rebadge/RnD investment.
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Jun 15 2016, 06:24 PM)
Wait until Proton blow up their Mega Sale RM80K/Proton Perdana 2.4

Then TS beg to have one.
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If you notice based on plotong's past record, i bet the perdana 2.4 WILL sell at rm80k.....just that Malaysian like you and me wont get the chance to enjoy it....only EXPORT market.
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jun 15 2016, 06:18 PM)
Because honda not allowing it. More likely, they want to clear the inventory of the parts, once cleared, they allowed proton to change or to use their own parts.
7000 of the platform was given by Honda annually to Proton.  That is the maximum unit they can sell.
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If proton put in esc/vsc
Directly effect current accord sales

Honda where got so stupid allowed that to happened
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civic > perdana
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QUOTE(Fasha1993 @ Jun 15 2016, 04:28 PM)
if you wanna get ah moi..would u buy proton or honda?

think wisely man... girls nowdays are materialistic..they care on what car u ar driving.

if i was u.. i will go for god car.
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Well if you looking for gold digger go for non local car lo
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and they will send ten of thousand cause all gov officials will be wajibed to use
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QUOTE(tandukhitam @ Jun 15 2016, 04:36 PM)
they should put 30k right ? so poorfag like u can buy
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Interior still look hard plastic. Meter is disgusting. Suggest proton close shop before economy turn to shit
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Wat the fark dey need to review 10 year old honda car...just bump 2008 honda car review je la
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QUOTE(bamkai @ Jun 16 2016, 01:20 AM)
Interior still look hard plastic. Meter is disgusting.  Suggest proton close shop before economy turn to shit
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jun 15 2016, 06:18 PM)
Because honda not allowing it. More likely, they want to clear the inventory of the parts, once cleared, they allowed proton to change or to use their own parts.
7000 of the platform was given by Honda annually to Proton.  That is the maximum unit they can sell.
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So this perdana are from honda factory?

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Proton too bodoh with the pricing, spec, design and launcing date. Cannot protek u la this time Proton.

If I get free this ugly piece of car, I would sell at lost and buy Civic instead.
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they cant finder better ahbeng meh

that ahbeng is uglier then that honda potong
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They should jz stick to C segment and below
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QUOTE(Fasha1993 @ Jun 15 2016, 04:28 PM)
if you wanna get ah moi..would u buy proton or honda?

think wisely man... girls nowdays are materialistic..they care on what car u ar driving.

if i was u.. i will go for god car.
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What car you driving?

Proton, but perdana le...
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rebadge with ugly head lights and tail lights saying proton all over. sounds protonish to me
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Why can't proton design (everything) on their own instead of rebadge?

What is the meaning National Car?

Use other people's car, put your own logo?


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http://www.carbase.my/car-comparison?id=CK...UA%2CBawFj8jnNt

Base on this comparison, its even stupider to buy honda accord 2.0 9th gen. Look at that specs. 2 airbags in a 140k car

Design is subjective so...


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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:05 AM)
Found the price of Accord :

Honda Accord 2.0 Vti Rm 141k
Honda Accord 2.0 Vti-l Rm 152k

Proton Perdana 2.0 Rm 113k

Difference RM 28K- 39K

Honda Accord 2.4 Rm 178k
Proton Perdana 2.4 Rm 138k.

Difference Rm 40K.

Moneywise choosing perdana is much wiser than honda accord. This is because like how Inspira did to the Mitsubishi Lancer.
After the inspira otr nobody care much about the lancer uniqueness and the value of the lancer went down tremendously.
The accord will be the same as the lancer.

For the first handvalue, in my opinion i would be choosing perdana 2.4 and save 40k while getting the same engine , chassis, and the safety of the 178k Accord.
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Err... you can get Accord 2.4 at 155k.

Besides, factor in the resale value too.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 16 2016, 10:00 AM)
Why can't proton design (everything) on their own instead of rebadge?

What is the meaning National Car?

Use other people's car, put your own logo?
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this question is legit to ask to P2 also. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:36 PM)
this question is legit to ask to P2 also.  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:38 PM)
why ask P2, didnt you know one of the main shareholder of P2 is who?
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:41 PM)
no i didnt know. sorry.  sad.gif
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QUOTE(oneplus4 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:51 PM)
Do you know P2 was to back up P1 in case national car project fails?(which it did, again and again)
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so as back up p2 can rebadge other car manufactures product? since p1 is the pioneer, they cannot, p2 as back up can?

liddat?
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:54 PM)
so as back up p2 can rebadge other car manufactures product? since p1 is the pioneer, they cannot, p2 as back up can?

liddat?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:58 PM)
becos somewhere after waja. they keep singing how rebadge is not the way to go for them.. they should do their own products bla bla..  biggrin.gif  now u turn pulak
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now no more under mahathir. so new management new vision. lelel.
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QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:59 PM)
now no more under mahathir. so new management new vision. lelel.
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jun 16 2016, 10:00 AM)
Why can't proton design (everything) on their own instead of rebadge?

What is the meaning National Car?

Use other people's car, put your own logo?
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back in 198X, this is the idea, by rebadge they can learn car technology and slowly go in automotive industry ... but after 30 year we still rebadge and gov called it PRIDE of Malaysia with no shame.

QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:36 PM)
this question is legit to ask to P2 also.  hmm.gif
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P1 is national PRIDE.
P2 is build affordable car.
QUOTE(Akmall540 @ Jun 16 2016, 12:54 PM)
so as back up p2 can rebadge other car manufactures product? since p1 is the pioneer, they cannot, p2 as back up can?

liddat?
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Because P2 is build to make money and Majority share in P2 not MALAYSIAN, try same equity with proton and u see p2 doom in no day
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QUOTE(rozaini_aimar @ Jun 16 2016, 06:03 PM)
inspira = mitsubishi

perdana = honda

toyota bila pulak?
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toyota dah secure P2
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post Jun 16 2016, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 16 2016, 01:02 PM)
back in 198X, this is the idea, by rebadge they can learn car technology and slowly go in automotive industry ... but after 30 year we still rebadge and gov called it PRIDE of Malaysia with no shame.
fark we rebadged for 30+ yrs d..shit!
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post Jun 16 2016, 06:19 PM

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[quote=Pork Chop the 3rd,Jun 16 2016, 06:14 PM]
fark we rebadged for 30+ yrs d..shit!
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yup, Proton and Hyundai were rebadge with Mitsubishi in same era, but today Hyundai gone far a head from proton in Automotive industries .......
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post Jun 16 2016, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(oneplus4 @ Jun 16 2016, 06:18 PM)
You know the meaning of back up?

Back up mean minimum risk.

Proton fanboy = stupid?
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wow dupe sapa ni so pandai?

p2 fanboi extremely clever?

u said liddat u win liao lor. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 16 2016, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 16 2016, 06:26 PM)
Hyundai and China automotive they venture into the automotive industry much more earlier than the Proton.

Somehow Proton manage to make better car and technology than the China car automotive.
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yah what u said is true on they ventures in early, but their picking up point is the same, when hyundai start collaboration with mitsubishi .....

Malaysia make better car than China now ? u should tell this story to warren buffett cause he make some huge investment in china car manufacturer ......
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 16 2016, 07:15 PM)
China on the other hand venture early than the hyundai and proton.

But somehow hyundai left China automative behind. Even Proton which start more later than the both but still catch up faster than the china automotive.

China which starting early in automotive industry by now technically would be the same par as the Japanese car automotive. But China automotive not moving better than the Japanese and Korean automotive.
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back in 80 where everything restricted, u can't call China is serious into automotive industry, they just rebadge it as GOV need, when it reach 199X, the story flip ....

which proton technology is better than china ? do u mind share ur knowledge ?
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post Jun 16 2016, 07:43 PM

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The pseudo wood trim is disgusting
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post Jun 16 2016, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:09 AM)
Yeah. Their max was 2.0 in Perdana & Inspira. Waja, Putra, Satria & Wira limited 1.8.
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There is the Chancellor with the 2.0 V6..
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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Jun 15 2016, 12:22 AM)
'Honda' was mentioned how many time weiiii
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this is a honda car wad. of coz mention honda

owait...
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post Jun 17 2016, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 16 2016, 07:15 PM)
China on the other hand venture early than the hyundai and proton.

But somehow hyundai left China automative behind. Even Proton which start more later than the both but still catch up faster than the china automotive.

China which starting early in automotive industry by now technically would be the same par as the Japanese car automotive. But China automotive not moving better than the Japanese and Korean automotive.
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dun be delusional that proton is ahead of china car industry..it cant even sell 5000cars a month in it's home market..and also bring record losses to boot!
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post Jun 17 2016, 12:20 AM

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Couldn't agree more
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post Jun 17 2016, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Hertz96 @ Jun 16 2016, 11:48 PM)
There is the Chancellor with the 2.0 V6..
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Yeah forgot that one.
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anyone who bought this Perdana, please give your personal comments. Much appreciated.

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