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> Orang Bodoh Beli Proton Perdana 2016, Come on its 2016 and you give shit spec?

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post Jun 15 2016, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:09 AM)
Yeah. Their max was 2.0 in Perdana & Inspira. Waja, Putra, Satria & Wira limited 1.8.
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if this perdana price cheapest in 2.4cc category Proton can win the battle.

btw. 2.4cc utk model perdana dtg dari mana?
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:18 AM

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so the review is saying this Proton Perdana is too much Honda, too little Proton and with Proton badge?
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:05 AM)
Found the price of Accord :

Honda Accord 2.0 Vti Rm 141k
Honda Accord 2.0 Vti-l Rm 152k

Proton Perdana 2.0 Rm 113k

Difference RM 28K- 39K

Honda Accord 2.4 Rm 178k
Proton Perdana 2.4 Rm 138k.

Difference Rm 40K.

Moneywise choosing perdana is much wiser than honda accord. This is because like how Inspira did to the Mitsubishi Lancer.
After the inspira otr nobody care much about the lancer uniqueness and the value of the lancer went down tremendously.
The accord will be the same as the lancer.

For the first handvalue, in my opinion i would be choosing perdana 2.4 and save 40k while getting the same engine , chassis, and the safety of the 178k Accord.
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Same engine, chassis with current accord?
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Jun 15 2016, 01:18 AM)
Same engine, chassis with current accord?
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haha. resale value instant drop 70%

if they have problem with their car again.
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:23 AM

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Engineers only allowed to changed the tire rubbers which are now quiter by 2db??
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jun 15 2016, 01:17 AM)
if this perdana price cheapest in 2.4cc category Proton can win the battle.

btw. 2.4cc utk model perdana dtg dari mana?
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Should be this model. 2008 one.

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post Jun 15 2016, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Jun 15 2016, 12:13 AM)
stupid specs with unreasonable price?

Good luck Proton...



NO PROTON HANDLING......Not allow by HHUUUnda

NO CVT?

No push start button?  ...what a bu***hit

and still sell at 100-140k?

pui...u the reason I dun suppork this car...
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1: Honda Handling is good... just that Proton has its own lotus character... too bad... but as Honda driver here the handling is better than so called floaty god car
2: I hate CVT.... it is one piece of stupid gearbox that take away the fun of driving, the feel, and add a little fuel economy with alot of vibration, jerking and RUBBER BAND FEEL YUCK!!!
3: Yeah only blade key... haihhhhhhhhhhhh
4: 100K for a D segment car is actually cheap!!! really.....

also look at it the engine is a Honda powertrain, you know it is solid engine, the 2.0 is R series, used in New Civic, HRV and 2.0 current accord Earthdream. it is very good engine...

on the 2.4 it is a tried and tested workhorse K series Honda Engine... K24z which is one heck solid engine!
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Jun 15 2016, 01:18 AM)
Same engine, chassis with current accord?
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2.0 variant same engine as current Accord 2.0 variant..both use R20A3 engine
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:25 AM

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Lol at "Honda not allowed proton to change anything" accept tire...lol kroni no lobang liao..
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Jun 15 2016, 01:24 AM)
2.0 variant same engine as current Accord 2.0 variant..both use R20A3 engine
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Than perdana is a good buy.
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:23 AM)
Should be this model. 2008 one.

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this model utk orang tua laaa. kita orang muda mana minat.kalau exwcutive atau director pakai ok la.
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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:22 AM)
I guess it would need to be same chassis if not same chassis then it could not be considered as rebadge.

If proton build the body and chassis then it will be consider as original proton design but using accord engine.

If proton design the body and chassis then i would check on the car crash test rating. Will it get 5 star or lower star safety rating.
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All Honda cars are 5 star NCAP/ACAP/NTSHA since 2000 (check your facts)

So since this Perdana is based on the previous Gen accord, it is a 5 star NCAP rating car with GCON crash tested design chasis, Basically crash tested by Honda Real World Crash Test Facility which surpass every NCAP out there...

Yes it is normal to rebadge... Even Mercedes rebadge Hilux pickup truck... so Mercedes is as bad as proton???

Fiat Rebadge Mazda MX5....

Renault Fluence is basically a Nissan Silphy...

not to mention BRZ and Toyota

In this world rebadge is common to save cost... and maximize mass production capacity....
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:30 AM

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why la so many hates


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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jun 15 2016, 01:28 AM)
this model utk orang tua laaa. kita orang muda mana minat.kalau exwcutive atau director pakai ok la.
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Meaning you still poor fag cannot afford hahahah!!!!
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 01:30 AM)
All Honda cars are 5 star NCAP/ACAP/NTSHA since 2000 (check your facts)

So since this Perdana is based on the previous Gen accord, it is a 5 star NCAP rating car with GCON crash tested design chasis, Basically crash tested by Honda Real World Crash Test Facility which surpass every NCAP out there...

Yes it is normal to rebadge... Even Mercedes rebadge Hilux pickup truck... so Mercedes is as bad as proton???

Fiat Rebadge Mazda MX5....

Renault Fluence is basically a Nissan Silphy...

not to mention BRZ and Toyota

In this world rebadge is common to save cost... and maximize mass production capacity....
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Got big difference in rebadging and platform sharing. Dun be mistaken.
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post Jun 15 2016, 01:36 AM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jun 15 2016, 01:28 AM)
this model utk orang tua laaa. kita orang muda mana minat.kalau exwcutive atau director pakai ok la.
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Their target buyer also somewhere there la. The previous gen Perdana aka Mitsubishi Galant (Eterna) last time also young ppl dun want to buy. Until people start to mod and the car gets way cheap it is the budget choice of youngsters. Nowdays can see quite a lot of Perdana with Evo engines inside because car is cheap and engine choice is powerful.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Jun 15 2016, 01:32 AM)
Got big difference in rebadging and platform sharing. Dun be mistaken.
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If not mistaken Rebadging is very common... so with Platform share

BRZ and Toyota 86 and Scion FR-S is basically just change Badge...

Also Mazda 2 and Toyota yaris is also rebadge....

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Jun 15 2016, 01:37 AM)
If not mistaken Rebadging is very common... so with Platform share

BRZ and Toyota 86 and Scion FR-S is basically just change Badge...

Also Mazda 2 and Toyota yaris is also rebadge....

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Got different. Platform sharing means engine/ chassis same. Whatever top can be different. Like Selphy/ Fluence, you can see no similarities. But under pining all same. Rebadging means everything is same with some minor cosmetic differences. You can say Proton is platform sharing with Honda. But there are many reuse parts inside the car to be called platform sharing. Much like how VW lets their older models be Skoda.

Potong as a company already damaged itself so badly, no one would even wanna give them the benefit of doubt. People will only buy their cars if they are cheap. As a guy on the street i will definitely say the old Perdana was around 100K. New one is overpriced. As a person who compares cars, yeah it is cheapest among same class. But you look at the high amount of old Perdanas on the road these days only say much about what people are wiling to spend on them. People with RM160-180K budget would not look at it at all and would go Japanese.
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QUOTE(georgegarcia @ Jun 15 2016, 12:13 AM)
stupid specs with unreasonable price?

Good luck Proton...



NO PROTON HANDLING......Not allow by HHUUUnda

NO CVT?

No push start button?  ...what a bu***hit

and still sell at 100-140k?

pui...u the reason I dun suppork this car...
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wah

really?

thats a shame

part of reason why i choose iriz instead of jazz is for the handling and ride comfort


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QUOTE(sad_ticket @ Jun 15 2016, 01:22 AM)
I guess it would need to be same chassis if not same chassis then it could not be considered as rebadge.

If proton build the body and chassis then it will be consider as original proton design but using accord engine.

If proton design the body and chassis then i would check on the car crash test rating. Will it get 5 star or lower star safety rating.
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check video 1.46 second .... 30k cheaper (is that cheaper? even their old stock, preown might be cheaper).

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