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post Sep 20 2016, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 20 2016, 12:14 AM)
confidence for opec action and/or no rate hike lacking. laugh.gif
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Yeah and it is the middle of the day, algo take over.

Hopefully it stays above 44 till 2.30.
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post Sep 20 2016, 01:31 AM

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Stop slightly below 43.8 for WTI, where is a headline when you need one.

Oil and the equity market seem to be taking a cue from each other.

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post Sep 20 2016, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 20 2016, 02:17 AM)
this cramer guy is funny but is quite right. biggrin.gif

"sometime sunday morning, the story propagated.... but not much of a fact... venezuela wants higher price, saudi wants higher price... of course they want price higher... but they don't cut, so all they do is talk the price higher...big joke of the morning...".
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/18/oil-up-as-v...rs-clashes.html
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Yes it is a joke but as long as the algos trade off the headlines, oil prices will always rise and fall based on the chatter.

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post Sep 20 2016, 11:00 PM

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Just like that and $USO turns green.

Approaching some resistance.
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post Sep 20 2016, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 20 2016, 11:10 PM)
this is wild...!
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Yeah, just imagine if they agree to a supply cut or cap on production.
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post Sep 21 2016, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 20 2016, 11:45 PM)
really, almost all opec is at full capacity. so, a "freeze" is rather meaningless.

production cut... will have a temp effect after which shale and non-opec will pump more as soon as prices rise.

the fundamental issue is there IS plenty of sources now, no monopoly like before.

i think the days of the mighty petro$ are over.

for us, small time traders, it will be just just another commodity... eventually.
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Yes that is true.

I still think US is going to be the swing play because shale is slowly showing the negative side effects to the environment so they may have too start slowing down production.

OPEC does not work till Iran comes to the table which may take a while since they want around 4mil barrels.

The days of mighty oil and monopoly is probably over unless they start working together instead of only releasing headlines.

Yeah, oil looks like it is becoming just another commodity just like the boom and bust of steel and copper.
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post Sep 22 2016, 02:03 AM

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Fed Vote 7-3 Decision to Hold Rates
Fed Sees Near-Term Risks To Economic Outlook Appear Roughly Balanced
Fed Sees Near-Term Risks to Economy 'Roughly Balanced'
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post Sep 22 2016, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Sep 22 2016, 02:04 AM)
No hike....

"strong job growth, strong employment, but slower business growth..."

markets dont seem to follow the hype of going up much?
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A more significant move may come during her press conference at 2.30.
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post Sep 22 2016, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 22 2016, 02:28 AM)
wti hovering at 45.50.

next stop...46?
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Probably, FED chair is not saying anything different and the dollar is weakening.
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post Sep 23 2016, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Sep 23 2016, 12:01 AM)
2200 hope once again.... cool2.gif
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Looks likely now with yields drooping fast.

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post Sep 24 2016, 12:01 AM

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3 FOMC Member's speaking today.
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post Sep 24 2016, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 24 2016, 12:14 AM)
wti bled 3% in less than 30 min.

iran told saudi to take a hike?
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Yeah looks like it.

They refusing to cap productions.
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post Sep 24 2016, 01:16 AM

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Baker Hughes US oil rig count 418 vs 416 prior.
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post Sep 26 2016, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 26 2016, 07:54 PM)

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 26 2016, 11:00 PM)
Here we go again, Buy buy buy...let's push this back up to $48. despite whatever inventory level or Opec talks  rclxms.gif
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Looks like short covering or could be someone knows something.
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post Sep 27 2016, 04:39 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 27 2016, 02:03 AM)
There is also Trump vs Clinton debate in 6~7 hours time.  Should be interested to see how market reacts the following day.
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Yes and she has increased her lead in a two person race at least in one of the polls.

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post Sep 27 2016, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 27 2016, 04:35 PM)
markets seem buoyed by clinton's debate "win".
crude... all ears on first words coming out of opec meet, i'm sure.

reuters seem to be always the first one to report anything.
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Oil sinks after Saudi Arabia, Iran play down chances of output deal

Headlines king and queen.
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post Sep 28 2016, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 27 2016, 11:00 PM)
hm... wti approaching 44.

didn't short enough! laugh.gif
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It is starting to make lower highs which is becoming concerning.

The resolution is going to be interesting.
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post Sep 28 2016, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 28 2016, 01:25 AM)
guess -3.6% was a bit too much, so it went back up to 45 - for a while.

w/o fresh news, still same - expected buildup in weekly stocks, little to come out of opec.

so, dwti again! tongue.gif

looking for wti 43.xx tmrw.

after 2am will give some clue.
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Yeah, just keeps bouncing randomly.

Can't even find the importance of the bounce level on the chart.
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post Sep 28 2016, 09:52 PM

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Oil price waiting for news from OPEC which could be in another 10 minutes.
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post Sep 28 2016, 10:34 PM

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Oil prices extend gains as US crude stockpiles fall by 1.9M barrels.

Iran rejects Saudi offer to cap oil output ahead of Opec meeting

Quite weird that they are going to the meeting when they know they are not going to agree on anything. Maybe planning for next month meeting.

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