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AthrunIJ
post Jun 24 2022, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jun 24 2022, 04:34 PM)
For me, my thought process is the same as yours. But I wanted to know what is Boon Gor's approach but he went silent on this part. Doesn't want to tell me.
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He is a trader. Last I asked him if he is investor or not.

So yea. His view will be by the lens of a trader.

Don't worry lol.

DCA is fine as long all tick boxes are checked.
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post Jun 24 2022, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 24 2022, 04:59 PM)
Hoii.. cucuk Api is it?

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I never hide the fact I am a trader. That is a known fact.

I hope this is not an issue.

Some traders do think one hor...
Since I explained in several post with examples based on actual data showing why simply buying up or down is a no no, perhaps  you show an exact example how DCA works on stocks. I let you pick your stock (unlike others) and time frame.

Please do show me la smile.gif
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No ah.

Cucuk here and there is normal one la boon gor.

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post Jun 24 2022, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 24 2022, 06:48 PM)
I tell you my 2nd Auntie gonna bring rotan come. tongue.gif
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post Jun 28 2022, 07:53 AM

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Boon gor sure liven up the thread everywhere he goes.

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post Jul 1 2022, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jul 1 2022, 11:00 AM)
ooo... many moons passed liao.... tongue.gif
laugh.gif  On the other hand, cannot take whatever investopedia writes as the whole truth la...  laugh.gif
Rational policy. The first and utmost rational policy should address the issue of why is the share down so much that one feels the need to average down?

Say.. One buy XXX at 200. Stock is now only 140. The urge of course if to average down.....

However, BEFORE that, isn't the rational policy is to ask why? Why the stock jatuh la....

1. Is the stock fundamentals or earnings going down? And the biggest danger to address is did one buy the stock at peak earnings? If peak earning is 60% above it's average yearly earnings, when earnings slide... earnings could slide a lot. When it does,  stock price could really plunge to way, way below. So averaging down now, it's suicidal if the stock could even plunge to below 100 (from the above example). And of course, the need to address and ask ownself, if that stock's peak earnings was a once off, like recent glove earnings.

And even before all this... before one buy the stock, did one even address this issue? Address the risk of buying into a growth stock whose earnings might peak? There are literally tons of data showing the grave danger buying into a growth stock whose earnings has peaked, which always results in plunging share prices. That needed to be address before the buying.

and once, the sign of peak earnings is there, get out. That's called admitting to the mistake of buying into a stock with declining earnings/peak earnings.

2. Buying the good stock but at the wrong price.

Isn't this what most are seeing now? They bought XXX. It's not that XXX suddenly has gone bad or what not. Fundamentals are sill strong. But... they over paid for it. For example, paying over 200 times earnings for XXX.

When market goes bad... naturally XXX could only fall to below 100 times earnings or even 80 or lower.... which means the stock price could really fall.

Again... addressing this issue from day one is much better than contemplating to average down that earlier mistake.

3. Buying but refusing to admit the stock selection to buy XXX was poor.

It was a mistake from day one. XXX was never ever a good company. Just average. And naturally, caught in a bear market, XXX will really plunge.

Yet once more, isn't addressing the issue of whether one has made or not is more important than the idea of simply averaging down and doubling down on the poor initial decision.

4. When the stock falls, it's undervalued?

Hey, whatever happen to the initial buy decision? Doesn't this mean that XXX was not undervalued in the first place? Averaging down, again meant doubling down of our initial mistake.

But then, how many admits to their own mistakes? Their stock selection cannot be wrong meh? If fall means, the stock is undervalued?
5. Stock was good but was caught in the current bear market?

Again... initial decision... did one not consider the inflation risk early this year? Wasn't there signs?
or maybe one bought the stocks way earlier. But if one had bought way earlier, shouldn't there any review of investment and review of whether one should have sold their stocks for a profit?

Paper profits are not profits until we sell.
6. Buy the dip!

oh.... lastly ..... recent years.... market was in a hell of bull market la.

Hence, all dips were sapu-ed cow cow. Buy the dip, buy the dip, buy the dip.....

now? market has turned. Some dips, had no bounce at all. Some even turned into big deeper!

Of course, buy the dip, was nothing but a market trend which happens during strong bull markets. To assume and adopt such strategy NOW is so very risky.
Oh...sidetrack.... from a gambling perspective. Haven't we seen this gamblers sitting on the table with piles and piles of chips. Winning streaks. Many a times, they don't understand why it's good to take profit. They keep on riding the luck, hoping the streaks continues. It doesn't. Chips go down in a hurry. Yet they don't take profit. They sit and believe the hot winning streak will come again..... but sadly it doesn't. Hence the earnings turn into losses.
There.... my ... err.... 28*1.1 = 31 sen opinion la....
addressing the stock is more important. Did we make mistake or not? If make mistake and then, don't admit, you think die or no die?
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Woi cannot inflate your cents la.

Later I cannot afford it 😭
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post Jul 7 2022, 11:24 PM

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Calm before the storm next week?

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post Jul 8 2022, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(pub_yu @ Jul 8 2022, 09:40 AM)
Haha

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post Jul 8 2022, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(Lon3Rang3r00 @ Jul 8 2022, 09:50 AM)
cool2.gif  i rather take the safe boat, don't buy.... just trade options to earn a little weekly and brace for impact.
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Haha, still not confidence in options yet.

But will continue dca until the drop then maybe time sikit
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 8 2022, 09:58 AM)
Aish, end of the month ka.

Salary week basically.

Hopefully got more bullets by then.

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post Jul 13 2022, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 13 2022, 08:23 AM)
Seems like it.

Just double down in recession to DCA

Waiting for fed news at the end of the month

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post Jul 13 2022, 08:59 PM

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Hohoho. It is starting
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post Jul 14 2022, 10:52 PM

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More drops

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post Jul 16 2022, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jul 15 2022, 05:54 PM)
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hope it stops here lah... otherwise maggi gonna be $2 small packet...
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Let it climb then it is good for my portfolio but bad for my dca plan haha

Dilemma

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post Jul 18 2022, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jul 18 2022, 06:03 PM)
ok tonight watch jim cramer @ 9:30pm
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When i listen to him. It's like not much info haha.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 19 2022, 03:22 AM)
biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif  So funny!

Anyway, another 75bps is coming for sure. Market pulling back ahead of time.

But, anyone here betting we're getting full 100bps?  tongue.gif
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I guess 200 just because fed being fed

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post Jul 21 2022, 10:04 AM

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The calm before the storm again?

Seems like it is already calculated in the stock price?

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post Jul 21 2022, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Jul 21 2022, 03:01 PM)
Lol it seems US market never dies..
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The good and the bad.

Haha o well.

Continue to monitor. As next week is the fed meeting.

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post Jul 22 2022, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(adam1190 @ Jul 22 2022, 06:46 AM)
Haha market is unpredictable, technically it is on an uptrend now
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Oddly enough.

But downtrending is expected soon. I hope. 👀
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 25 2022, 09:49 AM)
Market Insights: Inflation Now at 40-Year High and Still Going
https://simplywall.st/article/inflation-now...-going#comments

one pic to explain the severity of it:

U.S. Annual Inflation Rate 1979-2022 - Image Credit: Tradingeconomics.com
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Hmm, market drop 99 soon?

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Jul 26 2022, 09:26 AM)
for mid-June, it rallied, then crash, then rallied again...

so my portfolio as of yesterday's close is higher than June 15th's close (when 75 basis point hike was announced)
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Same. Even went to abit to the green side

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