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yok70
post Mar 17 2020, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 17 2020, 09:18 PM)
U.S could issue as much USD as fed wants and China need to sustain current account surplus.
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That is if USD (aka US world leader role) can continue to stay as strong as it is for the past few decades.
However, we are beginning to see oil trading with USD being challenged by some competitors. They are testing water for it.
And then, the picture of international trading with RMB has begin to be seen in past few years.

As for my view of it, in 10 years time, US will definitely be weaker than today, and China will definitely be stronger than today. The balance will continue approaching that equality level.
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post Mar 17 2020, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Mar 17 2020, 11:10 PM)
I also like 10ยข stock but their prices are already so high ....

and I don't like the wechat app. I think they should invest more to improve its appearance and user interface.
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ya, valuation is still rich for the stock. one of the reasons is that the covid-19 didn't affect too much of its core business.
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post Mar 18 2020, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 18 2020, 11:19 PM)
think first time i'm seeing this - WTI lost 15%.
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it's approaching below 20.....what a big fat bear.... biggrin.gif
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post Mar 18 2020, 11:29 PM

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want to ask you experience players. Is this round of bear market more aggressive than the 2008 one? Is its "pattern" similar to that one too?

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post Mar 18 2020, 11:48 PM

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The past two bear markets were down 50-60%? So if this time the same, then we will see another 20% drop. However, fundamentally, i still think we are in a better shape economy as compare to those bear markets, and the disaster seems more direct and not structural chaos. hmm.gif
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post Mar 19 2020, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 19 2020, 09:50 PM)
3 dead cat bounces so far.

4th one seems not coming today. yawn.gif
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today test water 2200 would be great. laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2020, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 20 2020, 08:12 PM)
Something is already brewing in the bond market for sometime, just waiting to burst.  No more safe haven.

Also gold, especially paper gold, has been artificially suppressed down to give assurance to investors that the market is still ok. Historically it would have been ATH on recession.

Paper gold (etf, mutual funds etc) has lost its value this time. OTOH, actual physical gold, i.e gold bullions are out of stock due to strong demand.

Banks... not something you want to buy for now.
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i just think the role of gold has transformed throughout the decades....into something "less important" than before. hmm.gif
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post Mar 20 2020, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 20 2020, 09:01 PM)
Well physical gold bullions have very strong demand this time as it is deemed not easily manipulated compared to paper gold. 

Also the demand for bullions seen to show the loss of confidence towards fiat currencies?

I posted before that the shortage of USD resulted in its increased in value. Now with the fed printing monies out of the thin air and also the helicopter monies going to be distributed to everyone in US, deflation may turn into hyper inflation soon when things get out of control.
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I think nowadays, the valuation in gold is as difficult to do as any currencies. Nobody knows how to valuate them.
In US last gigantic QE, money printed non-stop, many financial experts predicted a huge drop in USD value. But the result was the opposite of that. So this round of QE which just started this week, will it depress USD value? One opposite movement we saw in past one week+, investors had been selling treasuries aggressively to raise USD. In current picture, it seems USD could be even more defensive than gold.
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post Mar 23 2020, 11:44 PM

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2200 hit.
what's next? laugh.gif
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post Mar 23 2020, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 23 2020, 11:46 PM)
whoa.... sinking so dem fast...

just before they vote and pass the trillion $?

resistance is futile?!
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ya, market has doubt about passing the 1T. cool2.gif
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post Mar 24 2020, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Mar 24 2020, 08:59 AM)
Asian market open higher after us close down. Hmm, it is really weird these day.
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The emerging of China's influence shows. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 24 2020, 08:10 PM

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futures limit up?
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post Mar 24 2020, 10:48 PM

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rebound has been very strong.
i was wondering if we had already seen the bottom.... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 24 2020, 11:53 PM)
S&P500 needs a close above 2,500 first before we can assume a temporary bottom is in place. But this current rebound is a mix of short term traders plus a short covering squeeze. It wont last.
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i wish it drops some more, maybe 1800+, since i haven't bought enough laugh.gif

but today's rebound is too strong, this is not good for bear bear to play it harder.... hmm.gif

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post Mar 25 2020, 09:41 PM

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teasing 2500.... hmm.gif
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post Mar 25 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 25 2020, 09:51 PM)
Watch these levels
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i like 1810 biggrin.gif
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post Mar 25 2020, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Mar 25 2020, 10:10 PM)
djia futures went from +6xx to -2xx, then to 7xx and now flat.

i think i can sleep early as the big action will likely come during the last 1-2 hour. biggrin.gif
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bear bear please come out again to play.....today seems to be a boring day laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 25 2020, 11:22 PM)
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post Mar 27 2020, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 27 2020, 12:50 AM)
The Dow is technically in bull market
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yes, rapid bear, rapid unbeared. biggrin.gif

so once again, i suspect we had already seen the bottom few days ago. hmm.gif
consider previous low at 2191, so a 20% rally would be 2629. Lets see if we could reach there and stay for a few days.

however, since i still not buying enough, i still wish it could revisit the low and go further to below 2000. That would be nice place to buy. One possible news that could send us there, that is if DT announces reopen the country in short term.

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 27 2020, 01:23 AM)
Who knows, this could be just a rally within the bear market smile.gif But then again we have the stimulus bill.. This time fed can buy equities!
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to allow fed buying equities is really crazy move! where is market freedom? laugh.gif

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