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cybermaster98
post Mar 11 2020, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Mar 11 2020, 10:01 PM)
will Trump allow US to be in a recession / financial crisis during his term?
The Covid-19 and oil issues will be long over by the time the US elections come in November. I expect to see the stock market bottoming in April with a recovery over the next few months.
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post Mar 12 2020, 05:20 AM

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QUOTE(powerlinkers @ Mar 12 2020, 01:13 AM)
No, due to asset price bubble.pandemic was just a triggering factor.
Expect another 50% correction over the next 18 months
You expect the market to go back to 2012 levels? Clearly wont happen. I predict the market will rebound somewhere near the 2300 mark.
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post Mar 12 2020, 05:22 AM

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QUOTE(moosset @ Mar 12 2020, 01:04 AM)
already dropped 50%, still overvalued? then I guess have to wait until $150 ....
Next critical level would be $160. If this fails to hold it might go all the way to $120.
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post Mar 12 2020, 05:26 AM

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Bank stocks will get whacked again this month when Feds cut rates again. They might go for the full basis point. Im expecting JP Morgan to hit $50-70 after which will be a good entry point.
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QUOTE(Chengi @ Mar 12 2020, 08:49 AM)
I am lucky to be correct. Anyway, I am not here to proof anything.
Just to share with you, IMHO it works on any instrument and any time frame.
If uve been using indicators as long as i have you will understand that there is no indicator which gives you correct signals all the time. All indicators will work at some time but over a longer period they are completely useless. I started my forex trading journey 4 years ago with these indicators and ive dumped them all. I only use the RSI on the Weekly chart and never below the Daily chart.
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post Mar 12 2020, 11:06 AM

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US stock futures down 4% in morning trade. Australia down 5.7% while Tokyo is down 4.8%.
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post Mar 12 2020, 11:29 AM

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If you look at the S&P500 futures chart on the weekly timeframe, you will notice there is a 11 year support trendline from early 2009. It comes in near 2,480-2,520. Below that is a key horizontal support level at 2,300.

This is a very strong trendline so a break of this trend line will require a daily close below 2,300 (low of Dec 2018) and bearish retest to ensure further drops. Failing which there will be a bullish bounce. A break below 2300 will expose the next critical support at 1800 (low of Jan 2016).

The drop yesterday reflected a correction of 19% from the all time high of 3,400. A drop to 2,300-2,400 would mean a correction of 29%-32%. A very acceptable correction for a market that has hit higher highs for a good part of 2019 until 3,400.

As such, i expect a market rebound near the 2,300-2,400 level.

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 12 2020, 11:54 AM)
Now that we are in bear market, do take care not to invest outside of your means.

You maybe feeling euphoric now, but if this protracted over  longer period of time, you might have different thoughts especially if you are hardpressed for your living expenses

Protect your house/family first, not just your capital i.e. your health (what your plan B to retrieve back your investment in case you hospitalised due to the virus, estate planning, wills etc) your living expenses for possibilities of  loss of jobs & companies might go bankrupt. Previous recessions we don't have to deal with the pandemic crisis..and the probabilities of getting infected is high

If you are already been well prepared, fire away for opportunities  smile.gif
You are absolutely correct. Many people get burnt with stocks because they invest with money they cannot afford to lose or money which they will need in the next 6-12 months. Plus they get dragged into trading stocks pumped up by greed/fear in order to maximize profits but as history has proven those who have been passive investors are always the ones who end up making a good & consistent return over a 5-15 year period.
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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 12 2020, 12:07 PM)
Market pumped too high by CBs, so the drop will be equally drastic.

There could be some relieve rally (if u intend to balance your portfolio or protect your capital), also known as sucker's rally if you buy without doing your due diligence
Yes. That was what happened to those who bought stocks from 28 Feb to 4 March.
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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 12 2020, 01:24 PM)
No, that was only correction.

What I mean is during the bear market, there could be some rallies happening during the bear market (historically, not sure this time),  I think perhaps due to the flooding of liquidity or stimulus to the market by the CBs very soon...
The S&P500 did rally between 28 Feb to 4 March by about 287 points or 10% from the low of 2,854 until 3,140 before it corrected lower again. Rallies can happen at any time driven by fundamentals in both correction or bear markets. Its not about if and when rallies happen but rather how long it can sustain and to what levels.

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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Mar 12 2020, 02:53 PM)
Just be careful of circuit breaker, if it repeats like Monday tonight won't end well
Well, circuit breakers are just to curb panic selling. Nothing to do with technical analysis of charts. Its like taking panadol for headaches. Works for a while but if u have a brain tumor the headache comes back.

Anyway like i said im expecting a drop to the region of 2300-2400 sometime before this month ends.

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post Mar 12 2020, 09:35 PM

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US stock market hit 7% limit down circuit breaker again. Trading stopped.

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QUOTE(moosset @ Mar 12 2020, 10:11 PM)
so need to wait until 2300 before buying again?
My target to buy is at 2300 for the S&P500. But judging by the way the 2600 level was destroyed just now, i don't think 2300 will hold.
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Mar 12 2020, 10:15 PM)
I mean still pause or? Why like not moving
Markets opened at 9.45pm. S&P500 is down 6.95% now.
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QUOTE(Chengi @ Mar 12 2020, 10:20 PM)
Market open 9.30 right ?
I was referring to the re-open after the 7% circuit breaker.
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 12 2020, 10:21 PM)
He should have sold off some of his his positions and buy back later at much lower prices.. then he will have way more than usd120b to shop... smile.gif
If he did that he would be going against his long term investing mantra. He may save a few million here but when u go against your mantra you risk losing alot more in future. Its like once u break the rule you keep breaking it so eventually you lose out.
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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Mar 12 2020, 10:31 PM)
I believe your target will be hit but probably not today, Fed will definitely intervene later, what do you think  hmm.gif
The Feds will need to be extra cautious. The last 0.5 basis point cut was poorly timed. If the cut is poorly timed together with negative news the potential positive impact of the cut is watered down. The Feds need to try and ensure more of the bad news is priced in before they cut again. They are running out of bullets.
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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Mar 12 2020, 10:38 PM)
He is being look up as a legend, every move he makes, people take note...even his is pile of cash  has set tongues wagging.
So it will be clear later what he intended to do with the cash when he deploys them...
Some of his own investors were questioning his decision not to spend alot of that $120bil last year. But now its clear to the world why he chose to wait. In the last quarter Warren Buffet bought only 3 stocks:

1) Occidental Petroleum (OXY)
2) Delta Airlines (DAL)
3) Berkshire Hathaway (BRK.A)

These 3 stocks represent 2 major sectors i.e energy and airlines plus Berkshire which reflects an index fund. Warren buffet was always a strong advocate of the Vanguard S&P500 ETF. So it makes sense. There is always a reason why he does things. We have to be smart and look beneath the surface to see what the underlying msg is.
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 13 2020, 12:31 AM)
His own Berkshire also corrected about 20% from the top... that’s a lot of money for such a big portfolio...
And thats a good thing. That's why he is buying more of his stocks. If you have a long term view, this is a plus point not a negative.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 12 2020, 11:29 AM)
If you look at the S&P500 futures chart on the weekly timeframe, you will notice there is a 11 year support trendline from early 2009. It comes in near 2,480-2,520. Below that is a key horizontal support level at 2,300.

This is a very strong trendline so a break of this trend line will require a daily close below 2,300 (low of Dec 2018) and bearish retest to ensure further drops. Failing which there will be a bullish bounce. A break below 2300 will expose the next critical support at 1800 (low of Jan 2016).

The drop yesterday reflected a correction of 19% from the all time high of 3,400. A drop to 2,300-2,400 would mean a correction of 29%-32%. A very acceptable correction for a market that has hit higher highs for a good part of 2019 until 3,400.

As such, i expect a market rebound near the 2,300-2,400 level.
The S&P500 closed down 9.9% today ending at 2,480. Total 27% drop from peak effectively wiping out all of 2019's gains.So we are back to Dec 2018 levels. The RSI indicator on the weekly chart is at 25% (extremely oversold). The lowest since Nov 2008 when the S&P500 was at 809 points.

The Feds announcement a few hours ago didn't stop the selling but i think the interest rate cut + announcement of the US Gov stimulus package next week will surely boost markets. But i also think the current price action is already pricing in those positives to a certain extent so rebound may not sustain.

Either way, 54% of the stocks on my target list have hit target entry levels. So i might consider buying some next week depending how the market closes tomorrow.

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