manipulated up to give false hope n security to retailers

timing for the stocks splits just when market is turning south will trap a lot of moms, pops & noobs fomo into "cheap" tsla n goog...

commercials will definitely be shorting the market... weak hands will capitulate into their order books...

I watched the Wheel Strategy from Kelvin learn investing Youtube video, I macam understand what he's saying but still don't know how it really works. But to be able to do what he shared, it still go back to the first thing that you've mentioned= which is to be comfortable buying the 100 shares of the stock you wanna put for option. Which Stock Splitting is actually good in this case, as the overall price to own 100 shares of the stock is significantly reduce after the split.  :thumbsup: Still i'll have to put on hold of this Options ideas until i know what am I doing.

Do I need a margin account for trading Options?

what happens if example you're so confident Palantir will have its price drop, and you short on it...

then suddenly Wallstreetbets reddit people come in and pump the price.. that will not be good for your shorts and incur losses on your end? like what happened to Gamestop few years ago.
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/st...entioned-2022-3

seems like calls is a safer bet.

anyways we digress   goog is not a defensive stock per stock market norms/definition... current market pullback isn't indicative and invalidation of it... will have to wait for the real recession...

Of course you will be correct because your definition of "defensive" is not the market's definition in first place.

Ok, so you are using the "market" definition of defensive. Got it.

ok... walmart vs google...  let's play...

So what if recession really happens? Can't we just hold and wait it up? Continue to DCA in the stock we believed in, minimize the losses while waiting for it to recover from it. Or because recession has higher impact on those who used leverage and options, that newbie like me couldn't comprehend at this point of time.

Looks like I'll have to chance to put my RM10k EPF withdrawal to good use!

*scratching hand*, see all red red feel like chipping in. I wonder how Options can perform during downtrend? Buy low sell lower earning premium in between.

Walmart      vs    Google
PE                     31.68x                23.14x
Index PE            31.37x                33.76x

I think what Ramjade meant is how much it will drop to nominal PE value.
In case of above 2 candidates, if say they need to drop to 15x PE, Walmart will need to drop 52% in price while Google drop 35%. In this definition, Google has less fat than Walmart and has less room to drop (regardless of what industry they are in. Just purely analyse from its quality)?

I'm a simple man... so if I spent $100k now... how much are they worth during the depth of the recession? a defensive stock should drop the least, continues to pay dividends and may even increase in price/value...

if they give dividend... I take... never say no to money

options is a separate story... don't confuse the two...

you can collect dividends AND play options...

Yup.

Which stock? When? How much "loses"? Can share details?

when your stocks you bought to play options pay dividends... you give them dividends to me ok?

Same here. Dividend after taxes is really not worth it, especially when you see the deduction.
So there is really not much incentives to hold dividends stock unless you really like a particular company like 3M, J&J.

  Regards to this, i got a question. Isn't Irish Domicile ETF more expensive? I saw in IBKR that cost $1.7 per transaction, can't really DCA every month as LSE doesn't allow fractional shares.

More WSJ reads (Heard on the Street):

Netflix Needs to Handle Its Freeloaders Delicately

Crackdown on password sharing could boost revenue as subscriber growth slows, but alienating viewers could be costly too

https://www.wsj.com/articles/netflix-needs-...share_permalink

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Indulge Your Sweet Tooth Beyond Easter to Fight Inflation

Unlike most food commodities, cocoa has been remarkably stable when it comes to price. Chocolate might remain a more affordable snack than savory treats.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/indulge-your-s...share_permalink

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Bank Stocks Have to Reckon With the Downside of Higher Rates

Rising interest rates have many benefits for banks, but some of the burdens are front and center now

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bank-stocks-ha...share_permalink

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Stock Splits Show Less is More in Today’s Market

Sudden resurgence of stock splits shows importance of individual investors to U.S. listed companies

https://www.wsj.com/articles/stock-splits-s...share_permalink

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A Downtick Is Coming for Online Advertising (This one for Ramjade  )

Google’s search business expected to stay resilient while social platforms grapple with challenges

https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-downtick-is-...share_permalink

Michael Nathanson of MoffettNathanson wrote in a note last month that Google is “the strongest and safest part of the marketing funnel and has benefited from shifting spend due to changing privacy standards.”

2445 typo?...2545?

Collecting at a low price before the bonus split is a bargain.

The price will double very fast after the split. That is how to accumulate the shares without paying a cent.

The more split qty the better.

  Congrats in advance.  just realized it's 20:1 split..  but 5 share = 12.5k ouchs.

If i didn't spent my last 10-15 years over spending without any saving, $12.5k per year might be possible. My field of work don't earn me much since I'm not from Peninsular. I'm currently only able to invest at most Rm1k/month, and will increase the amount when I'm able to. :thumbsup:

Alphabet is one of the most defensive FAANG out there.

It's moat on core services like google search, youtube and mapping services (waze/maps) is near unreplaceable position.

Even Apple might have device change cycle, but for Google they are so entrenched that if we have recession or inflationary pressure there will still continue to be advertisers and consumers using its services on daily basis.

Can't go wrong with this one. If you buy, just keep it till the day Google search algorithm starts to fail you.