i thought that is the entire point of the thing isn't it???

takkan you want new learners to tame a 500bhp monster when they are just learning to drive right... the whole street will just literally be littered with road kill...

there are just too many panicky noobs in malaysia to let them have anything more powerful than a lawn mower...

not only that, make you feel cacat

too much car and everywhere also jammed nowadays

it's just like how people want auto-correct and auto-complete on their phones and computers while they type...

no one likes manual labor... that is a fact..

that is why malaysia P drivers always get trouble with their new cars

Exactly right.

It's always a good idea to test new drivers with less than ideal cars. All cars during my JPJ test had one problem and everyone was complaining about it; the clutch's biting point is too high. So everyone screwed up their hill starts and 3 point turns. Except me of course, I was the only one who passed that day out of 11 of us of that one driving school.

Because driving is subjective. All inputs are not switches that is just on and off, for every car the input feels different. That's what new drivers need to know first and foremost. Master the concept and you can drive pretty much any car.

All that feeling and judging is tiring for many people. Older people who have been driving manuals all their lives find relief in automatics, while the newer drivers are too lazy to even drive manuals long enough to imprint the muscle memory. The "guesswork" and "judging" is done subconsciously. Much like how race car drivers change gears; they "twitch" everytime they hear the engine is at a certain note. It's not guesswork anymore, it's automatic.

that's like saying after using computers and keyboard... no one knows how to hand write anymore...

as with everything in life... you do things in progression and with analytical thinking... it doesn't mean that you are thought how to use a pen knife and later given a chainsaw and you can treat it as you will a pen knife...

logical thinking cannot be taught.. it has to be self learned..

we might as well just teach newbies how to maneuver an 18 wheeler as well if that is a valid argument because there are many parking heroes in our community of drivers as well.. if they can't maneuver a decent sized common car in our country into a parking spot... they might as well learn to maneuver an 18 wheeler around so parking those small cars will become 2nd nature to them...

This post has been edited by nm7: Aug 7 2014, 01:32 PM

It's true though, I can't recognise my own writings after 48 hours.

like manual transmission more..
i can feel it kick everytime i change gear.. while auto can make me "tidoo"
even the 6 speed auto shiftronic (it has +- to change gear) not as good as manual transmission..

Auto is good however it really depends on the machine

Honda is quite clever to use earth dreams and a better CVT to operate the gears and in order to save fuel in the process. Of course it is not a performance type but i rather go for this than DSG or protons fail CVT gear box ( proton car owner here ) .

Proton fail CVT gearbox is probably the worst auto drive i ever drove.

If use DSG will make you cry . The gear will go into power-loss (gear disengaging) due to short-circuiting of wires caused by a build-up of sulphur in the transmission oil.

you must be a doctor instead of a foodie

dude... it's very simple...

if you are lazy, drive an auto... dun expect any auto torque converter based / cvt units (with the exception of sequential based AMT, selespeed & dual clutch transmissions to give you any sort of performance)...it just takes care of swapping cogs for you at the expense of something not a lot of people gets bothered about....

if you expect to get fun, performance and whatnot... get a manual... but dun complain that it's a b**** to drive at times..

simple as that...

not only here bro, most of all advanced & advancing countries are, ppl are getting stupiak & lazier from generation to newer generation.

nowadays Manual is for performance cars.... almost mostly

Manual transmissions are more reliable and cheaper to maintain.

Auto gearbox prone to have problems, and if anything happen, sure 4 digit already wan.

I stuck in traffic for 2 hours with manual car, and my left leg cramp. But maybe its because my daily car is auto. My mom is the only natural manual driver in the family Rest of us are sissy

Until auto is used on track, or I won't use one!

Actually i learned from my first car (k-car) tat driving a manual is more expensive than an auto... Workmanship for clutch change is rm250 and up because have to lower the entire engine...but only apply to kcar la

It's called multitasking... Why would you want to use your hand to fiddle a toilet stick tat doesn't do much (save u petrol at most) while you can use it to operate your phone (which can make u $$$) while you drive?

I dun like it any much more than most people...but hey, they even invented steering laptop mounts in the u.s...it must mean tat time is god darn precious..

This post has been edited by nm7: Aug 8 2014, 05:19 AM

we only change clutch around 10 years atleast..depend on how u drive lah

but this is the figure for all my car (kelisa auto, iswara & corolla both manual)

kelisa = ATF fluid change 20,000km / rm-+200

iswara = gb fluid change 50,000km / rm40-60 + workmanship rm30

corolla = gb fluid change 50,000km / rm40-60 + workmanship rm90

wah so expensive jor atf fluid. i pay only rm100 for atf fluid saga auto. workmanship rm30.