no im not..

my point is
1. Dont need to argue this vaccine things. human need vaccine for immunization to avoid disease. we need doctor when sick. "ask the expert"/"bertanyalah dengan orang yang berpengetahuan/pakar".

2. Abu Hannah made a statement form his opinion/from what he heard not from what he read. when he said "saya bukan ahli" that means he know nothing. So the story about the tabib/doctor is not valid/ fallacy. my point is i dont agree with abu hannah. made a statement that he didn't know or not even read from the reliable source.

3. The argument about vaccine or comment in FB make us look bad
(menunjukkan melayu islam ni celaru, suka bangkitkan isu, kadang2 benda kecik jadi besar, benda halal jadi haram, tak tutup aurat kena maki pastu viral, sampai bangsa lain mempermainkan isu ini)my point is it look bad when we argue for something that we dont know about. made a blind statement just based on personal opinion/on what we heard instead of what we read.

4. We made a statement like we know everything. (banyak antara kita melayu muslim mengambil isi sesuatu sirah nabi/sejarah/itu sebagai satu kewajipan. sedang cerita itu hanya untuk memberi pengajaran. tapi yang peliknya kita tidak pula bersungguh-sungguh dengan perkara yang jelasnya wajib diamalkan)

5. Masalah kita melayu muslim ialah kita kurang membaca, cepat melenting tak nak terima pendapat orang dan suka berhujah dengan benda yang kita tidak mahir. ayat pertama/wahyu pertama turun adalah "bacalah dengan nama tuhan mu yang menciptakan". bila last kita baca quran dan baca terjemahannya? bila last kita baca buku atau kita hanya banyak membaca di FB dan blog?

nasihat untuk diri sendiri juga. berlapang dada lah bro2 sekalian. jangan emo. jgn marah marah k.

This post has been edited by mrashdi: May 20 2016, 12:44 PM

Malas nak komen. Malas nak berdebat atau explain kat orang bodoh.

Biar mati sorang dua anak dulu baru nak buka mata. Kalau yang jenis extra benak, dah anak mati pun ingat ketentuhan Ilahi, masih taknak keluar daripada kejahilan.

Ada bro, just nak share story atau tak je.

Kalau anak dia saja yg mati tu orang lain tak kesah pun. Masalahnye bila anak orang lain mati atas kejahilan dia.... Itu yg jadi isu.

Bukan aku tu. Aku amek screenshot ni di Fb jer.

Janji hannah mesra wuduk owai....

Hi, nak tahu, boleh ke tanya kat taska yg anak2 kat situ ada cucuk vaksin ke tak?

I fuken hate this type of malay conversation... why need to put hikhik, hihi, haha, hehe... fuck u... converse properly cannot ah? Everything must be a joke... whats more annoying if i converse normally without adding hehe, haha, huehue... or even emoji... they think i cari gaduh...

And what the hell is wrong with that abu hanna... "saya bukan ahli... saya bukan ahli" x paham soalan...

This post has been edited by h4r8_kIlLeR: May 20 2016, 01:16 PM

Dah kantoi petik nama nabi. Despise this kind of people

Here's a little background, simplified, on how vaccination works.

Basically what they are injecting into your body are weakened and neutered version of nasty buggers that kill people. Now, these nasty buggers are fixed to have at least 99% change to not reproduce. The 1% chance are the anomalies and will only matter when your body is unable to build the necessary antibody to kill them. This is why if you have as much as a cold you cannot get vaccinated.

The idea is based on a premise that if everyone has antibody to a virus, then this virus will be eventually wiped out, without the chance of mutation. If as much as one person lets the virus live long enough, there is a chance of mutation. Various factors can trigger a mutation like climate, diet, medication, and even existing health conditions.

Now the nightmare. If one un-vaccinated imbecile gets a deadly virus, and the bloody buggers prosper then mutate, the existing vaccine most likely won't work on it no more. So now you have a new outbreak of a potentially deadly virus that should have been wiped out because some tool is too full-of-sh*t to read.

Existing counter-measures post infection, is also unlikely to work on a mutated strain. Because all viral infections has an incubation period before showing symptoms, every newly infected poor sap becomes another source of infection. And there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Sure vaccines are added with other chemical compounds. Just like your frozen food and other organic material that needs to be preserved for consumption. This includes water from our taps.

If you are so concerned about having a lil mercury in your system, think about how you and your family will die when you get a mutated nastier version of small pox.

This post has been edited by allinuff: May 20 2016, 01:34 PM

Hik hik hik

Anti vaccine talibans.. hahaha

Someone tag allgap and icehart!
Geng diorg

I won't bother people like this. It's like listening to Tom Cruise's speech on Scientology.

Masa tu dia petik "itu kuasa dan kehendak Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala..."

boleh tahan bebal jugak abu hannah tu. soalan direct je kot.

can recommend/pm me this anti vaxx/penunggang agama fb page? i wanna peek what's inside.

group Masyarakat Kena Tahu.

Go there. I warn you, the level of ignorance there is too damn high.

>meleis
>muslim

topkek overload
If their child died they want to blame who?


#sabojela

This post has been edited by RalphRatedR: May 20 2016, 02:55 PM

Yahudi sangat gembira kerana produk Yahudi digunakan oleh orang Islam tanpa paksaan untuk menyebarkan kebodohan dan kejalilan mereka yang akan membahayakan generasi akan datang.

Kononnya nak menakluki dunia. Kononnya nak tawan Amerika dan Eropah. Kononnya nak hapuskan Yahudi dan Israel dengan teknologi mereka sendiri.

Hakikatnya semua dikurniai otak tapi ramai yang malas nak guna.

this is what happen when u let religion rule ur life,.. superstitious,...

pegi fb PW https://www.facebook.com/pswatch1/?fref=ts banyak dia screenshot post dr fb grp bebal antivaxx/pro home birth semua ni ...ada 1 fb grp 'our healtly unvaccinate babies' tapi susah gila dah diterima masuk group tu

That site needs to be shut down. If anything that's putting national security at risk, this is definitely it. Before any pinhead start calling me a fascist prick, I'm all for free speech and letting people live the way they want but not when spreading misinformation like that. With enough people un-vaccinated, the potential risk of a deadly massive outbreak scales way up as well.

This post has been edited by allinuff: May 20 2016, 04:22 PM