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post May 20 2016, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 20 2016, 04:21 PM)
That site needs to be shut down. If anything that's putting national security at risk, this is definitely it. Before any pinhead start calling me a fascist prick, I'm all for free speech and letting people live the way they want but not when spreading misinformation like that. With enough people un-vaccinated, the potential risk of a deadly massive outbreak scales way up as well.
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On a serious note, pandemic / endemic outbreak is serious threat to national security.
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post May 20 2016, 04:25 PM

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Why vaksin also got relate with religion ? only heard got vaksin harom before because got Pumba gelatin but really that cause of it?

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post May 20 2016, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(Xander-G @ May 20 2016, 04:25 PM)
Why vaksin also got relate with religion ? only heard got vaksin harom before because got Pumba gelatin but really that cause of it?
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There are religions that forbid mixing of bodily fluids. I won't name these religions. So, it's a sin to get a blood transfusion even if you may die. For some reason I cannot even fathom, vaccines or anything that's administered by a syringe is automatically forbidden.

This post has been edited by allinuff: May 20 2016, 05:17 PM
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post May 20 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Special Agent @ May 20 2016, 04:10 PM)
this is what happen when u let religion rule ur life,.. superstitious,...
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Not really. That happens when you blindly follow a blind "leader". They clearly misinterpreted verses from Quran and create their own interpretations on some verses. Not just that, they also make some fake stories regarding prophet Muhammad just to satisfy their ego and win an argument. Clearly, that's not what Islamic teaching is

I'd like to interfere what the group discusses but I'm afraid that my cerebral cortex will commit apoptosis and die
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post May 20 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(manypplwan @ May 20 2016, 04:46 PM)
Not really. That happens when you blindly follow a blind "leader". They clearly misinterpreted verses from Quran and create their own interpretations on some verses. Not just that, they also make some fake stories regarding prophet Muhammad just to satisfy their ego and win an argument. Clearly, that's not what Islamic teaching is

I'd like to interfere what the group discusses but I'm afraid that my cerebral cortex will commit apoptosis and die
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+1.

Niat tidak menghalalkan cara.
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post May 20 2016, 05:16 PM

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This anti-vaccine movement originate from where? Don't think this particular race in our country is the founder.
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post May 20 2016, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(MRaef @ May 20 2016, 05:16 PM)
This anti-vaccine movement originate from where? Don't think this particular race in our country is the founder.
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It didn't.

If memory serves, it started way back in the 70s when the Mormon church gained traction.
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post May 20 2016, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(creep @ May 20 2016, 04:21 PM)
pegi fb PW https://www.facebook.com/pswatch1/?fref=ts banyak dia screenshot post dr fb grp bebal antivaxx/pro home birth semua ni ...ada 1 fb grp 'our healtly unvaccinate babies' tapi susah gila dah diterima masuk group tu
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the best one is
https://www.facebook.com/pswatch1/photos/pb...?type=3&theater

ppl ask can carlsberg bring down yellow fever
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post May 20 2016, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ May 20 2016, 09:49 AM)
Same category with AbdulRahman and Meis.
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Salah thread bang
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post May 21 2016, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ May 20 2016, 11:17 AM)
paging magi for his opinion
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about what? vaccination?

to vaccinate or not is a choice.

anyway, measles and mumps are two very minor sickness. when we were small, we are anxious to get these because we know once kena, we acquire immunity for the rest of our lives. and those times there were no vaccinations for measles and mumps. no one died, at least none of my friends, or family members and relatives, died of measles or mumps.

but i know of many cases of children with autism, even more so nowadays. why?

go watch VAXXED. then you can decide whether to vaccinate your own children, or not. get all the facts first, not just from one side, from all sides. be an informed individual, not a sheep fed with controlled information.
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post May 21 2016, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 20 2016, 04:21 PM)
That site needs to be shut down. If anything that's putting national security at risk, this is definitely it. Before any pinhead start calling me a fascist prick, I'm all for free speech and letting people live the way they want but not when spreading misinformation like that. With enough people un-vaccinated, the potential risk of a deadly massive outbreak scales way up as well.
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are you aware that the number of polio cases went up AFTER the polio vaccine was introduced?
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post May 21 2016, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ May 21 2016, 03:36 PM)
are you aware that the number of polio cases went up AFTER the polio vaccine was introduced?
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And currently? Is it still as high as before vaccines?
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post May 21 2016, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 21 2016, 03:44 PM)
And currently? Is it still as high as before vaccines?
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whats the purpose?
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post May 21 2016, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(magi @ May 21 2016, 04:51 PM)
whats the purpose?
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QUOTE(magi @ May 21 2016, 03:36 PM)
are you aware that the number of polio cases went up AFTER the polio vaccine was introduced?
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Well I would like to see these numbers also.
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post May 21 2016, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(MRaef @ May 20 2016, 05:16 PM)
This anti-vaccine movement originate from where? Don't think this particular race in our country is the founder.
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Right now, its very popular in US.

The whole "Big scumbag corporations are lying to us (the common folk) and make money from us and weaken us!" conspiracy is popular among some people there. Its their version of "Agenda Yahudi"
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post May 21 2016, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 21 2016, 05:31 PM)
Well I would like to see these numbers also.
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Or perhaps, thanks to the effort to spread polio vaccination, the number of reported cases rise because more and more people became aware and educated on the signs and symptoms of polio, which would have otherwise went undiagnosed or ignored.

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post May 21 2016, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 21 2016, 05:31 PM)
Well I would like to see these numbers also.
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http://vaccineresistancemovement.org/?p=814

https://thetruthaboutcancer.com/the-truth-a...t-vaccinations/

Notice that these diseases were virtually wiped out before the introduction of their respective vaccines! Rather the decrease in these childhood maladies weren’t due to vaccinations (as you may have been told), but were mainly the result of improved public health and hygiene (including sanitation and cleaner drinking water) during that time.

http://nsnbc.me/2013/05/10/the-vaccine-hoa...ars-of-coverup/

http://naturalsociety.com/vaccine-fraud-th...y-vaccine-hoax/

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/...dangers-us-all/

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/why...ientific-fraud/



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post May 21 2016, 11:39 PM

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has any body watch Vaxxed movie?
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post May 21 2016, 11:44 PM

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more like Abu Faggot to me

well if come across ular sawa and this Abu Hanna subhuman filth, you know which one to rejam batu dulu
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post May 22 2016, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(azarimy @ May 20 2016, 11:48 AM)
i disagree with this approach. if u have seen the kind of things they're spreading in there, u cant help but go in and fix things. this is not politics. this is hardcore science.

example: these people feed newborns with honey. some even replacing the first mothers milk with it.

science: newborns have no ability to process complex food like honey. in fact, some studies show it has the potential to cause food poisoning in babies under 12 months.

actual teaching: the prophet advises stimulating newborn babies with breastfeeding problems by massaging babies' mouths with the little finger slightly dipped in honey. the honey functions as sort of anti-bacterial in small amounts.
so u see how deviated they've been? would u just keep silent and biar saja? because they are teaching EVERYONE on that page to do the example above.
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QUOTE(allinuff @ May 20 2016, 01:22 PM)
Here's a little background, simplified, on how vaccination works.

Basically what they are injecting into your body are weakened and neutered version of nasty buggers that kill people. Now, these nasty buggers are fixed to have at least 99% change to not reproduce. The 1% chance are the anomalies and will only matter when your body is unable to build the necessary antibody to kill them. This is why if you have as much as a cold you cannot get vaccinated.

The idea is based on a premise that if everyone has antibody to a virus, then this virus will be eventually wiped out, without the chance of mutation. If as much as one person lets the virus live long enough, there is a chance of mutation. Various factors can trigger a mutation like climate, diet, medication, and even existing health conditions.

Now the nightmare. If one un-vaccinated imbecile gets a deadly virus, and the bloody buggers prosper then mutate, the existing vaccine most likely won't work on it no more. So now you have a new outbreak of a potentially deadly virus that should have been wiped out because some tool is too full-of-sh*t to read.

Existing counter-measures post infection, is also unlikely to work on a mutated strain. Because all viral infections has an incubation period before showing symptoms, every newly infected poor sap becomes another source of infection. And there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Sure vaccines are added with other chemical compounds. Just like your frozen food and other organic material that needs to be preserved for consumption. This includes water from our taps.

If you are so concerned about having a lil mercury in your system, think about how you and your family will die when you get a mutated nastier version of small pox.
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thanks for these good information
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