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Forex version XVIII, Foreign Exchange Market Discussion
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Apr 30 2016, 06:44 AM
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Apr 30 2016, 01:46 PM
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Hello everyone. I am extremely new to the idea of forex trading but I am confused. Is online forex trading legal or illegal in Malaysia? yeah BN website says its illegal if it's non authorised dealer but is there another way I can trade forex online without making it illegal? all experts please advice me. Very confused here. Thank you in advance.
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Apr 30 2016, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(Toki Theng @ Apr 30 2016, 01:46 PM) Hello everyone. I am extremely new to the idea of forex trading but I am confused. Is online forex trading legal or illegal in Malaysia? yeah BN website says its illegal if it's non authorised dealer but is there another way I can trade forex online without making it illegal? all experts please advice me. Very confused here. Thank you in advance. Yes, it's illegal. Trade other derivatives. If you however insist on trading forex, migrate or register an offshore company to trade. |
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Apr 30 2016, 06:06 PM
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Apr 30 2016, 06:14 PM
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Apr 30 2016, 06:25 PM
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I decided to do a little bit more research and is it true that we can trade forex provided that we trade in currency pairs which do not involve the myr? Like GBPUSD, EURUSD, everything else without the MYR currency is fine? Does it mean that if we "legally" convert our ringgits through authorized dealers/banks we can trade non myr currencies? I mean its our money right just in a different currency and any risks is on us and it won't jeopardize the country in any form yes?
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Apr 30 2016, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(brotan @ Apr 30 2016, 06:14 PM) The only authorised dealers are the banks. Therefore, it is only legal to trade with the banks.http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=li&cat=...=CB&fund=0&cu=0 |
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Apr 30 2016, 07:02 PM
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QUOTE(carrer @ Apr 30 2016, 06:59 PM) The only authorised dealers are the banks. Therefore, it is only legal to trade with the banks. If you want to exchange money or trade forex IN Malaysia, yes I agree it is only legal with whatever list by bnm http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=li&cat=...=CB&fund=0&cu=0 But we are not trading IN malaysia |
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Apr 30 2016, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(brotan @ Apr 30 2016, 07:02 PM) If you want to exchange money or trade forex IN Malaysia, yes I agree it is only legal with whatever list by bnm Under the Exchange Control Act 1953 (ECA), it is an offence for a person in Malaysia to buy or sell foreign currency with any person, other than an authorised dealer. It is also an offence for a person to aid another person to buy or sell foreign currency with any person, unless the person is an authorised dealer.But we are not trading IN malaysia It doesn't matter if your broker is not in Malaysia, but you are in Malaysia and executing the trades from Malaysia, hence you are bound to the Malaysian laws. |
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Apr 30 2016, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(carrer @ Apr 30 2016, 07:06 PM) Under the Exchange Control Act 1953 (ECA), it is an offence for a person in Malaysia to buy or sell foreign currency with any person, other than an authorised dealer. It is also an offence for a person to aid another person to buy or sell foreign currency with any person, unless the person is an authorised dealer. is that the right interpretation? i thought i know but now i don't know It doesn't matter if your broker is not in Malaysia, but you are in Malaysia and executing the trades from Malaysia, hence you are bound to the Malaysian laws. so what is the workaround? if you open a shell company overseas and 100% own by u, will that be ok? |
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Apr 30 2016, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(Toki Theng @ Apr 30 2016, 06:25 PM) I decided to do a little bit more research and is it true that we can trade forex provided that we trade in currency pairs which do not involve the myr? Like GBPUSD, EURUSD, everything else without the MYR currency is fine? Does it mean that if we "legally" convert our ringgits through authorized dealers/banks we can trade non myr currencies? I mean its our money right just in a different currency and any risks is on us and it won't jeopardize the country in any form yes? Frankly speaking, there are no need to do research... why would you...Statistics said that 90% traders failed and quit trading.. only a few will manage to shine out.. the best thing to do is to put your money you can afford to lose in a regulated broker to start learning to trade... It'll be a waste of time to do reading on illegality, might as well put that efforts to learn. I was like you few years ago and i found out that you can't be consistently profitable for the first few years.. risk is what making this world interesting.. taking risk in trading and learning forex is the best experience.. |
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Apr 30 2016, 07:48 PM
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Apr 30 2016, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(Toki Theng @ Apr 30 2016, 06:25 PM) I decided to do a little bit more research and is it true that we can trade forex provided that we trade in currency pairs which do not involve the myr? Like GBPUSD, EURUSD, everything else without the MYR currency is fine? Does it mean that if we "legally" convert our ringgits through authorized dealers/banks we can trade non myr currencies? I mean its our money right just in a different currency and any risks is on us and it won't jeopardize the country in any form yes? There are broker that offer MYR currency eg. SGDMYR, USDMYR. You can trade those pair, but bear in mind the spread is big. |
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Apr 30 2016, 09:10 PM
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http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=214133
long thread on the legality of forex trading for Malaysian tldr version it is somewhat not illegal to trade forex by malaysian if you convert your rm to usd (or any currency) via BNM authorized legal entities (mostly banks) once the money is in the broker's acc (i assume overeas), you can do whatever you want with the usd |
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Apr 30 2016, 09:56 PM
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Apr 30 2016, 10:00 PM
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QUOTE(brotan @ Apr 30 2016, 09:10 PM) http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=214133 You should email to the BNM directly to get the real answers. long thread on the legality of forex trading for Malaysian tldr version it is somewhat not illegal to trade forex by malaysian if you convert your rm to usd (or any currency) via BNM authorized legal entities (mostly banks) once the money is in the broker's acc (i assume overeas), you can do whatever you want with the usd I did and I got the answer. It is illegal. However, I have never seen/heard anyone being prosecuted, except those managing Other People's Money (OPM). |
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Apr 30 2016, 10:19 PM
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QUOTE(carrer @ Apr 30 2016, 10:00 PM) You should email to the BNM directly to get the real answers. Bnm customer service (not the ppl making decisions) is not expert in these things I did and I got the answer. It is illegal. However, I have never seen/heard anyone being prosecuted, except those managing Other People's Money (OPM). You can read the ff thread |
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Apr 30 2016, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(brotan @ Apr 30 2016, 10:19 PM) Bnm customer service (not the ppl making decisions) is not expert in these things I have read through the thread. The law is there, it is up to an individual to choose to follow or not.You can read the ff thread The FF forum members could be the real experts in BNM rules and regulations. |
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May 1 2016, 02:13 AM
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QUOTE(carrer @ Apr 30 2016, 10:53 PM) I have read through the thread. The law is there, it is up to an individual to choose to follow or not. Well, looks like 99% of the folks in here are in trouble with the law then by trading forex. The FF forum members could be the real experts in BNM rules and regulations. So you belong to the 99% or the 1%? |
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May 1 2016, 10:24 AM
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How is the forex market so far? Been learning some basics but never invested at it.
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