Hey guys,

Any one cure from high bilirubin ?
What are the medication or home remedy to cure this?
And does milk thistle helps to reduce it?

Kindly advise and help

Thank you

This post has been edited by Unomi: Apr 19 2016, 10:35 AM

not doctor here, but you can refer to this link: http://www.webmd.com/digestive-disorders/bilirubin-15434

Depends on the cause. Hepatitis? Gallstone? Blood disorder which increase destruction of RBC?

not too sure at the moment, but during i was a kid , my eyes were yellowish.
Now im 25 years old.

Get yourself check at klink kesihatan and post back the results.

going to a health lab to check my liver 1st, after seeing the results , i think its better to seek a specialist .
but im hopping someone who had the same problem would share their experience

I already list out your probable diisease Hepatitis? Gallstone? Blood disorder which increase destruction of RBC?

Any pain? Alcohol drinker? Overweight/obese? Pale?

So many cause of jaundice.

Go find out the cause first. Go to a doctor.

How the hell anyone can treat without knowing the cause?

By the way, a person can have a yellow sclera and not have jaundice or high bilirubin. Especially if the person is eating a diet high in carotene

This post has been edited by slimey: Apr 19 2016, 06:13 PM

my dad had high bilirubin due to colon cancer that spread to liver.

one nurse advised him to reduce oily food to reduce the bilirubin. Drink more water to "flush" the kuning out of your body.

my advise, go & check with doctor the cause because high bilirubin can be due to many factors.

do blood test first. avoid traditional supplements

How high..i believe u didthe bloodtest?was bilirubin d only one with higher amount than normal?

You asking on Internet, 9/10 the respond will be cancer.

Do the LFT at least.

To treat is to find the cause.

I always high bilirubin counts and doctor diagnosed me with Gilbert Syndrome.

More info here on how to manage your disease
http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/cond/C318681.html
http://naturallysavvy.com/blog/natural-app...lberts-syndrome

did the doctor give u medication? and can it be cured?

See previous post. On how to manage. You need to know what's the cause first.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Apr 25 2016, 12:45 PM

no cure and no medication. it is not life threatening disease. doesn't need to do anything.

Guys, and update.

Just check my blood , my total bilirubin was 50 (the average was <17)

So i went for a doctor consultation , and i did a ultrasound to see there is any blockage in my gallbladder or liver.

But everything is healthy, no blockage or whatsoever

The doctor said my red blood is breaking too fast, indirectly high metabolism rate.
and the doctor prescribe it as "hemolysis"
There is no cure. Just live a healthy life style.

This post has been edited by Unomi: May 7 2016, 09:36 AM

Hemolytic anemia. Have to rule out thalassemia.

try taking Legalon liver capsules, it will help with hepa-toxicity

Is that serious? but every test results from my blood is normal.
My blood count and etc

my liver is healthy , is it necessary to take it?

The doctor said try to avoid too much supplement , cause i used to take a lot of supplement .

This post has been edited by Unomi: May 7 2016, 09:45 AM

Agree. Since your full blood count is normal, should repeat the full blood count and liver function test after say 1 month.

Have you found out the cause?

How do you know it's healthy? Did do you a liver function test, direct, indirect bilirubin test?

Legalon is basically just milk thistle exact. There are cheaper stuff with the same efficacy.

There is no point of telling us just the total bilirubin and not telling the direct and indirect bilirubin.

Anyway, if it is real hemolysis, the urine should be dark color and I would expect the indirect bilirubin to be much higher. Also would need to send peripheral blood film to confirm hemolysis

Sorry, TS, tumpang thread. Since many expert here.

Below is my Bilirubin, is out from normal range, and what does it means?

Total Bilirubin 25.1 * umol/L (<22.0)
Direct Bilirubin 9.0 * umol/L ( 0.0 - 5.0 )
Indirect Bilirubin 16.1 * umol/L ( 0.0 - 7.0 )

Thanks

Do you have any jaundice (yellow skin/your white of the eye is yellow)?
Any other sign or pain? Did you do liver function test?

Yup, all the while (not sure since when) my eye white is yellowish.

I do this blood test was due to my fingers kind of numbness and tingling. Is only on my right hand, and is when I have certain way or position can feel it pull, then numb. The feeling is like when we in aircon room too cold, it used to happen when I stay late in office, but normally when I drive out, within few minutes, this sensation will gone. But now... it like staying...

GP referral me to Orthopaedic for an Cervical X-ray. When I was there, the Dr just prescribe me Arcoxia 120mg, and advice me go for MRI if the symptom remain the same. After 2 days of Arcoxia, I didn't feel good on it, even heartbeat like abnormal. Call back the specialist clinic, the nurse there advice to stop on it, and try Neorobion.

Do you type/use the conputer alot?
High bilirubin does not have any connection to your fingers btw.
Go get yourself liver function test. Do you drink alcohol?

Wow, you seems good in many area. Used to see you in Financial thread.

Ya. IT is my job... but i didn't used mouse, only touch pad.

My GP say nothing to worry-wor. A lot of people also having this reading. As long not extremely high is fine, plus my urine test seems fine.

I no drink, no smoke.

Any pain if you do like praying? (hold for 1 minute)
Any pain when you tap your wrist?
Any pain if hold your wrist? (hold for 30s)

High bilirubin is not normal. Whoever tell you that is an idiot. Ordinary people don't get high bilirubin. slimey any ideas? DO do a liver function blood test and we will know.

This week seems got improvement. Just the sensation still there, like after slap people the hand feel.

No pain for above step. If last week some step will make the numb worse. Just no pain point found.

Means need another blood test for liver? How much will it cost?

What could be the problem you suspect?

That is just painkiller to relive the pain. I suspect you have early sign of carpal tunnel syndrome. Better go check.
For high bilirubin, lots of cause. Can be bile duct block, can be something wrong with the liver. Do you have any pain on the right side of your stomach area which come and go? Klinik kesihatan should be able to check. No need private. Save money.

Can i take those supplements for liver which available at pharmacy?

The painkiller i stop taking on day 2. Now just take Vitamin B1, 6, 12 and Gingkgo. Nope it gone soon.

bilirubin slightly raised..........
both direct and indirect slightly raised. pointing towards hepatocellular causes

it would be helpful if you have the AST and ALT result.........
perhaps there's a need to check for biohazards like hepatitis b and c

if AST and ALT deranged while biohazards result negative.......just need to figure out other cause like drug or alcohol related.......and repeat another liver function test few months later.......

if biohazards positive.......need to be on medical followup..........may require treatment and yearly liver ultrasound

Why take liver supplements when you don't know if it's your liver? Like I said do a liver test to know if it's really your liver. Also carpal tunnel syndrome cannot be cure with vitamins alone. It needs physiotherapy + splint + ergonomic mouse and keyboard. Again like I said is suspect only. If really carpal tunnel syndrome, it's still in the early stage where it is still reversible.
Best go klinik kesihatan, get referral ltter to neurologist + get your liver function test done.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Jul 28 2016, 09:19 PM

Thanks. I do not drink any alcohol, even beer was like 1 or 2 can during CNY. Below is my result. And based on my last 3 years result, Total Bilirubin is 24.

LIVER FUNCTION TEST
Total Protein 79 g/L ( 64 - 85 )
Albumin 46 g/L ( 34 - 50 )
Globulin 33 g/L ( 20 - 39 )
Albumin-Globulin Ratio 1.39
Alkaline Phosphatase 56 U/L ( 38 - 124 )
Aspartate Transaminase 25 U/L (<34)
Alanine Transaminase 26 U/L ( 10 - 49 )
Gamma-Glutamyl Transferase 22 U/L ( 12 - 73 )
Total Bilirubin 25.1 * umol/L (<22.0)
Direct Bilirubin 9.0 * umol/L ( 0.0 - 5.0 )
Indirect Bilirubin 16.1 * umol/L ( 0.0 - 7.0 )

Is that the one as I replied on slimey?

AST, ALT normal

Thank you.

So same as my doctor advice no harm, right?

Do i need to do anything about it?

sometimes chronic hepatitis b can have a similar picture........

if hepatitis negative......other causes are too rare to consider....

Hepatitis Bs Antigen = Non-Reactive



Thanks for your time!

i did my blood test too, doctor said my total bilirubin is high.
In the end i took a ultrasound, everything looks normal.
and doctor told me not too worry too much. Just eat healthy and live healthy.

ya, my doctor give me same explanations as yours doctor gave. 'red blood is breaking too fast, indirectly high metabolism rate.'

yeah same answer. I think should be a common problem.
Unless you want to see a specialist.

from reading the thread, i assume both users slimey and Ramjade are healthcare personals. They pretty much point out the common stuff.
Common cause would be infection especially if its comes on suddenly. Viral Hepatitis is always as possibility despite normal LFT values.
Negative Hbs antigen does not exclude Heb B as a good immune system can suppressed the virus well. This test cannot detect other Hepatitis viruses.

I think the info u ve informed so far are scattered.
If its ok ill need to ask,
Has this yellowish discoloration happen before.
Do u have any health problems.
Do u have frequent pain anywhere?
Does any of ur family has similar problems.


Jaundice is a symptom, just like shortness of breath. shouldnt generalized them.

high metabolism rate will it cause weight loss? my blood test result show high bilirubin too, last year 2017 jan total bilirubin is 28, the oct 2017 is 24...btw i found my eye got yellow, not whole eye yellowish, and sometimes i feel nausea and no appetide, i got weight loss as well, few years b4 my weight is 65kg, 2016 december 61kg, 2017 december 57kg, is it still normal...which test should i do? thanks in advance

Hi guys, I am bumping up this thread because I am having high Bilirubin value too after I took a blood test healthcare centre.

Total Bilirubin: 1.4v mg/dl or 23.9v umol/L (standard: 0.2-1.2mg/dL or 2.4-20.5 umol/L)

SGOT/AST: 23 U/L (standard: 5-34)
SGPT/ALT: 17 U/L (standard: 5-34)

I am a skinny guy who is underweight 2 years ago and at the borderline of "normal" today.
I am having high Cholesterol level too. The value is 218 which is reduced after I started to exercise, workout and food control for the past 1 year.
I don't smoke and don't take alcohol all the while.
Generally I don't feel anything wrong, symptom or pain for liver area.
MY hepatitis antigen no longer reactive.

Doctor advise me to go for scanning but I didn't manage to ask what kind of scan is that. What type of scanning I should take?
I believe it is better to do it at hospital, correct me if I am wrong.

Can you recommend me some good hospital to do the scanning? from expensive to budget cost. I will sort them out.
Please provide more inputs to me if you have any experience. Thank you in advance.

Calling slimey Ramjade for help

This post has been edited by Holyjolly: Jan 8 2019, 10:53 AM

Aiyoyo.

Why lah all these routine blood test results not explained clearly by the doctors who ordered them for their patients. And then nonchalantly advise 'scanning', whatever that means.

Typical.

In the event of what I can only
ASSUME to be an asymptomatic patient history with an
ASSUMED no KNOWN family history of related conditions to a sustained bilirubinaemia or other conditions affecting/presenting in the liver function tests,
an ASSUMED FIRST TIME result of 23.9v umol/L is hardly "high".
And yeah, the cholesterol level is not high, its actually borderline high.

In terms of 'scanning', the most likely that was recommended is an abdominal ultrasound scan, and generally they'll be looking at the bile duct, and looking for gallstones in the gallbladder. Which even if found, depending on number and size and general gastroenterologist judgement (how many is too many, how big is too big from an ultrasound image no less), only notification and observation (and patient-learning) is most preferred in the context of an asymptomatic patient.

I won’t bother with such a blood test result.

consult an internist: medical specialist.

Through history need to be taken to conclude a diagnosis.

I would suggest for you to consult a private internist(should cost RM 50-250/consultation): if you have money. Once you have a working diagnosis: they could refer you to government hospital for further management(i.e. surgery is indicated).

If you have fever and abdominal pain at any point: go to Emergency Department directly.

Maybe is my bad for not asking clearly what type of scanning is. He got issue a referral letter but just tick the area need to be scan.
If trace back my medical checkup report, it is increasing across the years.
2014: 0.9 mg/dl or 15.5v umol/L
2016: 1.1 mg/dl or 18.8v umol/L
2018: 1.4 mg/dl or 23.9v umol/L

abdominal ultrasound scan would be sufficient and less intrusive i think. If I do it in government hospital, do I need to queque very long? I should refer to gastroenterology specialist?

Hmm, perhaps I give it a check when free.

Hmm, what should be the division name? gastroenterology specialist?


This post has been edited by Holyjolly: Feb 23 2019, 03:57 PM