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post Mar 18 2017, 12:15 PM

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At the spectrum for who can afford to buy house, can only afford less and less of down payment

At the spectrum for who can only afford to rent house, can only afford less and less of deposit.

The initial upfront is the killer for both house buyer and tenant. And btw, do not penalise all genuine tenants just because of some bad apples.

Therefore we came up with solution to solve this problem. Allianz General Insurance is bridging this so that everyone can move forward with the future trend with ease.

We barely know the world we live in, things are changing so rapidly. We cannot use the lenses of the past to see the future. But we certainly can give the benefit of doubt for whatever innovation is in the market and give it a try, because end of the day, nothing really really bad can happen.
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post Mar 25 2017, 05:57 PM

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Yes, consent is required for the check.

Currently monthly rental that we do is between RM1 - 4k/mo. Not open for high rental yet.
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post Apr 17 2017, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(lucifal @ Apr 12 2017, 11:32 PM)
The insurance coverage covers the following:
-02 month's rent
-RM 1000 for any inconvenience benefits (utilities bills + minor repairs)
-RM 15K (For any accidental damage+theft in the house)

So far what I got from SpeedRent.
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That's correct, and 2 demand letter from law firm.
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post May 1 2017, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Asali @ Apr 21 2017, 09:05 AM)
Try a few times used SpeedRent. It should have some filtering checks before accepted the potential tenant interact with landlord.

I faced a person do not want to tell his working place, another person tell stay together with friend but do not want to tell is a she or he, we all know that malay couple should not stay together before get marry....etc.

SpeedRent should have 1st filtered out those who are not willing to provide his personal details such as company name, how many person stay gal or guy , bla bla bla...Do just blindly accepted
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Noted, we will add more questions before they submit enquiry.

We will also start selectively credit check on tenant in coming months.
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post Aug 7 2017, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Jul 5 2017, 11:59 AM)
I did tried one, my experience was not good. Appointment can be not shown, alot of seem kacau-kacau only.

Just my tot, if u got time than can use speed rent or else better let agent handle for u. Because Speed Rent not in helping on screening, arranging appointment, contract follow up. The main problem is after meet up and both are happy. The deal can close but eventually hav to stop cause donno what the following steps to do.

if speed rent is reading may explain here.
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We understand that there is still an education gap needed, hence we have customer service rep to help both landlord and tenant.

Right now there is somewhat handholding process for all of the steps mentioned.
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post Aug 7 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(propertybbb @ Jul 5 2017, 09:25 PM)
the problem for me is speedrent charging one month rent as fees n insurance. So in the end, for owner it is lppl ..n yet need to handle viewings n filtering.
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It's true that Speedrent charges one month rent. However, we charge the 12th month rent.

So if a tenant fail to complete their 12 months agreement, you do not pay anything at all.
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post Aug 7 2017, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(yapy05 @ Jul 28 2017, 04:22 PM)
First customer service person told me that it's entirely up to me as the owner to agree to their No Deposit Scheme. A week later, their so called manager (Tanya) tells me that they will be taking down my listing as I have not yet agreed to their No Deposit Scheme.

These guys can't make up their minds! Bunch of unethical jokers. No point being held to ransom by some company who can't even train their staff properly.
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Point taken, would strengthen this process further.
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post Aug 7 2017, 07:12 PM

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QUOTE(godlikexioo @ Aug 7 2017, 12:52 PM)
Can I suggest that add in feature button to press  once both side are agree after viewing. Than ur HQ arrange the following step for us. Since speed rent is doing everything on line it is just a simple step follow up by ur team.
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We have an appointment feature - just that most are unaware of it / just exchange phone number and make appointment externally.

We will need to do something about it, if you have any idea - would love to hear from you!
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post Aug 23 2017, 09:17 PM

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I saw some feedback here and mostly negative experience with Speedrent. I believe most of them were genuine feedback but some were very wrong.

First of all, I wish to explain what Speedrent is really about.

It started with a simple frustration. I needed to lease my house in 2014 ASAP, contacted 50 agents through SMS, 10 responded, and ONLY 2 came to take photo of my unit. 1 month later, it was rented out. Towards the 4th/5th month, I've had rental collection issue, agent didn't bother to help. Fortunately the tenant was oversea and therefore didn't pay on time.

But during the moment of frustration, I thought:

What if I only SMS 10 agents and none of them responded?
Why am I paying the fees to agent when there is zero after-sales service, especially when I needed them the most?

That got me started to think.

Is there any platform that is especially designed for landlord to manage their rental house easily and deal with all the hassle, I would pay for it because property rental is suppose to be a god damn passive income! And that became the vision guiding me in building Speedrent as the dream of all landlords.

There were a lot of outdated information in this thread. And I have myself to blame for not following up this thread closely. More importantly, there is limited information on our website and everyone took all opinions here as what Speedrent is. I started responding in Aug, and we are in the midst of creating a lot of articles to explain what Speedrent is. But since it's not fast enough, I'll write few simple answers for everyone to read. My response may be aggressive in certain answers, but I wish all landlord read it with an open mind.

Click on the below links for whichever topic that you are interested in:

Customer Service False Information / Delayed Rental Payment
Speedrent not working, no tenant at all!
Speedrent = Agent? Use Agent better?
The killer No Deposit, sounds like a scam
How does Speedrent Tenancy Agreement work, esp Termination

I can be reached at wm@speedrent.com or 0192679338.

This post has been edited by wheimeng: Aug 24 2017, 05:58 AM
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post Aug 24 2017, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 23 2017, 10:31 PM)
Great Q&A smile.gif
How about if the tenant decided to terminate the tenancy halfway? Usually as landlord we have right to forfeit the deposit
Similarly if landlord decided to terminate the tenancy halfway.
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Added your question to my main response, you can read here.

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post Aug 24 2017, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(gks @ Aug 24 2017, 10:19 AM)
With a bit of tweaking I think your platform will hit a market sweet spot. The rental range seems to be ok given conscious budget targeted mass market and for landlord usually this range of market the unit only comes with bare or built in fitted therefore reducing damages concern.

But I think volume (landlord and tenant) is very important so that both can get leads. Maybe you need to spend more effort (time & $$$) for exposure. Time is always essence for landlords and if we didn't get any leads, we may just give up the idea altogether.
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gks, yes, that's always the plan to grow. There is a lot of new concept and the way we think about rental. And we need to do a lot of education work, as well as support from landlord and tenant!

Thanks for your encouragement and keep the feedback coming back.
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post Oct 8 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(ken12345 @ Oct 6 2017, 11:06 AM)
Hi Wheiming,
I see that there's also an option of online transfer instead of credit card.
What happened if the tenant does not online transfer the rental on time?
Any penalty?
For me as an owner, the most important thing is the on-time rental at the early of the month.
So just wondering how speedrent can protect owners from that.

Cause I see that the app is considering fairness and benefit for young tenants a lot,
but what about the benefit for owners?
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We started with credit card but found out that penetration of credit card is fairly low (20-30%). Credit card can help us to collect rental more promptly, and there are declined credit cards whenever we try to charge. So not a foolproof solution.

Credit card and cash are a mean to payment, not the ultimate solution to timeliness. Our current experience is most tenants pay on time, through online banking or cash deposit.

So yes, credit card in a generalised view has better predictability compared to other means, but it's not guaranteed (e.g., exceeded credit limit).

We do not see Speedrent as biased towards tenants. In fact, we see our solution is a better solution for both landlord and tenant. Deposit is a legacy solution that does not protect landlord well, and at the same time create financial burden for the tenants.

e.g., the deposit does not cover damages well, especially we have heard so many landlord stories on tenant wrecked the house/furniture that costs them 5 figures easily.

The insurance that Speedrent worked out with Allianz, offers superior protection to landlord (2 months rental guarantee + RM15000 damage/theft on household content + RM1000 inconvenience benefit + 2x demand letter), while at the same time removing financial burden for tenant.

It's a fairer and better solution for both parties.


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post Oct 8 2017, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(ken12345 @ Oct 6 2017, 11:19 AM)
Hi Wheiming,

As far as I know the tenant just need to pay 2 months rental before moving, which is 1st month and 12th month rentals.
1st month rental will be 10% discounted by using CIMB card.
And 12th month rental will not be given to the owner but automatically becomes the insurance and platform fee right?

However, owner and tenant both have to organize and meet up by themselves without any speedrent people around.
That is somehow a bit unsafe for us owner to meet tenant directly.
which I feel that if the 12th month rental already taken by speedrent as the platform fee and insurance, then it would be better if speedrent can also come out as a 3rd party to arrange meet up in person together with tenant and owner to ensure the safety of both parties.

Honestly, i have just started using your service last month but I feel there is no guarantee for owner's safety.
Cause there was a tenant telling me that she is local Malay lady and asking me to contact her directly by whatsapp for viewing, but eventually turned out to be an African guy. As a lady owner myself who is alone, I was shocked and luckily there was a security guard around.

Probably this is a point for you guys to improve your system, since the platform fee is collected, there might be a better way to ensure the safety for both owner and tenant.

That's just my opinion after using your service.Appreciate if there is a better improvement.
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Sorry to hear your experience. We will have option soon to verify tenant identity, safe, easy and transparent are the 3 key elements that we want to offer.

We expect by Nov this feature will be available to all. By then, hopefully you feel more secured in using Speedrent.

Thank you for your feedback, truly appreciate it!

p/s: CIMB discount has expired, no longer have that.


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post Oct 10 2017, 09:49 AM

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@david77

1. Fee - basically no different from using agent, just that benefit in timing (pay later rather than upon signing tenancy agreements)

Yes, that's true. But there is a big difference in later (last month vs agent first month)

Traditionally, you pay first month to agent upon finding a tenant. Speedrent you pay the last month upon tenant successfully completed the tenancy.

If a tenant, for whatever reason does not complete the agreed term, you have 1 month less. Where else at Speedrent, you don't pay for anything. Entire service is FOC to you.

2. Insurance - at landlord cost but Speedrent gets commission

Refer to 1. If a tenant doesn't complete the agreed term, insurance will be FOC for you.

3. Deposit - if tenant goes rogue, Speedrent pays using the deposit. If tenant is good, Speedrent gets to use the deposit for its investment. So it's opportunity cost to landlord.

Landlord tends to focus on the opportunity cost (losses) paying to a person who provide service. But what I wish to highlight, the real opportunity cost is leaving the house idle (1 month? 2 months or even 6 months rental losses?), not generating the cash flow (or rental yield) as a result of delayed rental.

IMO, that is where the real opportunity cost people are sacrificing.

As a property investor, rental yield / generating cash flow is the key focus. A person can potentially save a penny here and there, but losing a pound. Hope that answers your question.

What do you think?

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post Oct 10 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 8 2017, 09:42 PM)
1. How do you ensure that my property is well-taken care of and it will not be damaged by errant tenant?
2. How do you find the said tenant. Do you carry out background check? etc
3. If the tenant did not pay rental it is Speedrent will be assisting to chase for the rental? Is there a guarantee scheme if tenant run away I'll get my money back since I have to pay Speedrent 1 month of commission.
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@heavenly91

1. We like to use credit scoring as a mean to predict a person's behaviour. Is that foolproof? No, but we are emulating the process of a bank approving a loan to property rental.

2. We advertise on Facebook, Google to attract tenant. Right now we perform credit screening and background check when both landlord and tenant decided to do a deal. In Nov, we will move the credit screening process upfront, in hope to filter a poor scoring tenant before they get to you. @ken12345 asked this question too.

3. Yes, by default, all rental will flow through Speedrent before going to landlord. So that when a tenant doesn't pay rental on time, we know it and can act on it. Part of the insurance coverage also have lawyers to send demand letter to tenant when they are overdue.

And for the 1 month fee, as mentioned to @david77 - you don't pay for the fee when tenant run away because you only pay when the tenant successfully completed the term of stay.
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post Oct 10 2017, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(heavenly91 @ Oct 10 2017, 10:16 AM)
Interesting
Which means Speedrent will only collect the said commission at the end of the tenure.
Yup yup.

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Then who will be attending to the tenant?
It is Speedrent or the owner?
Owner.
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post Oct 10 2017, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(David_77 @ Oct 10 2017, 01:49 PM)
Thanks for the answers.

For the statement "save a penny but losing a pound", it's subjective. You are making it under the assumption that using Speedrent will ensure the unit is rented out faster as compare to agent. Not sure if you can claim that.

Anyway, I have better clarify on your business model. Does not work for me but all the best to you  thumbsup.gif
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Glad that you are clearer on our business model, and Speedrent is not for everyone. It's always a channel for landlords to try other options.

p/s: I've not claimed that Speedrent was faster to agent.
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post Feb 18 2018, 07:34 AM

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So sorry for the late response, I've not received any email notification on all these questions. I've now set my calendar to check LYN on a weekly basis.

Few questions here, and I will address them all:

Q: How much & Where is the fee structure? Is it 1 month as stated in this forum, but it is not stated in the apps. Will i get an invoice so that i can deduct my tax.

A: The simple answer is 1 month, but I encourage you to read the details at: https://speedrent.com/web/happy-landlord-guidebook/

Q: Normally landlord pay 1 month rental to agent for a 2 years contract. If we have to pay Speedrent 1 month for 1 year contract, means i have to pay double. Can we deal direct with tenant after the 1 year?

A: Certainly!

Q: hello, is that possible to filter out tenants based on their nationality? not to be racist but based on the experience i would prefer to rent out to locals or professionals. 
is there any maximum or minimum on tenancy terms? will u prepare a standardize tenancy agreement on behalf? Thanks.

A: We do not have filter tenant based on nationality. Min 6 and max 12 months. And yes, it's a standardised tenancy agreement, you can DIY it easily, check out the tutorial at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJDfJRGuYS4

Q: Then again at the website it says tenant pays RM399 for the tenancy agreement. So now does the tenant only pay 10% of the rental or does he also have to pay one month rental to Speedrent for its services and RM399 for the tenancy agreement (tenant has to pay bcs the agreement actually protects the tenant)???

A: 10% is 2016 news. We have changed the model since March 2017, no 10% charge on tenant.

Q: I was discussed few times with speedrent guys. They're only think about tenants side and whole processes are favorite to tenants. I am not sure speedrent guys got landlord experiences or not. All i can sense they have ton of tenants experiences. 

A: You can read https://speedrent.com/web/happy-landlord-guidebook/ for full landlord experience and benefits.

This post has been edited by wheimeng: Feb 18 2018, 07:42 AM
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post Feb 18 2018, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(truelife @ Feb 12 2018, 11:17 AM)
I read this thread, from the first post until the end. It can be concluded that Speedrent was used to be attractive to owners, eg. Speedrent acted as collecting agent and deposited monthly rental directly to owners’ bank accounts on first day of the month regardless whether the tenants pay promptly to Speedrent or not. However, Speedrent now allows tenants to transfer money directly to owners’ accounts and Speedrent does not help to collect rental on behalf of owners. Therefore, a lot of cases like late payment or non-payment by tenants have been occurring. So, from owners’ perspective, it is a bad arrangement to owners. Moreover, owners cannot collect deposit upfront. Speedrent’s income is solely at owners’ expense.

Hope the staff of Speedrent can clarify this.
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Hi truelife,

Speedrent transfers the payment directly to landlord upon tenant pays the rental within 3 working days.

We send SMS, email and calls to tenant when they do not pay on time. Our SOP is to call tenant it becomes overdue.

Last year, many landlords called Speedrent to ask for because there wasn't any visibility to our course of action for late payment. For that, we have built a system for landlords to check for all activities we do on landlord's behalf for full transparency. You can read more at https://speedrent.com/web/checking-tenants-payment-status/

This post has been edited by wheimeng: Feb 18 2018, 07:39 AM
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post Feb 19 2018, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(zaFrOoNaLdO @ Feb 19 2018, 12:08 PM)
correct me if im wrong @wheiming,

if tenant dont pay after 14 days, thats the use of Allianz insurance. Landlord can claim from Allianz for the rent not paid and can evict the tenant out.
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That's the whole point of Allianz insurance. In fact, Speedrent will help to process the claim from Allianz when the tenant has ran away.

@truelife, you can read more at https://speedrent.com/web/speedrent-allianz...ental-coverage/



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