I would like to know the meaning of First honour actually. Is it the consider as a same level for anyone of them who get first honour in different course?

My friend told me that a person who get first honour in their studies,they will get better priority to get into better/good/famous Uni no matter these uni are linked to the college or not linked to college. Is it true?

Is it something like master or phd that we need to pursue it?

But not much of them can get it rite?

I'm asking so much cuz my college come a new lecturer who had her first honour in architecture n now she is waiting for her phd results while teaching us next week onwards.

Anyone please explain this to me.Thanks.

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This post has been edited by LaR_c: Jan 12 2007, 09:16 AM

carrielyn, when do something get HD...there a better position...

as far as i'm concerned, other than australian degrees, all architecture degrees that provides Part 2 qualification are honours degrees. (refer here for discussing various types of honours degrees).

what we go after is 1st class distinction, which a more proper word and less confusing than 1st honours. u get 1st class distinction by scoring atleast 3.70cgpa after finishing ur entire study. for architecture, 1st class is something extremely hard to get especially in schools using pre-1990 syllabus. other schools like sheffield and nottingham have implemented new syllabus that allows students to potentially score very well.

to apply for further studies, the school will always look at the top candidates. if by average applicants consist of 3.00pointers, then chances for a 1st class holder (3.70cgpa) is definitely higher lah. simple logic.

just remember, architectural degrees (other than australian) have already had honours embedded in them. it means when u graduate, u will get a Bachelor of Architecture (Hons), which is the equivalent of a professional degree.

hi,
my question may sound silly but i need to ask, after i finish my 3 years diploma n also degree at melb u, i'll b automatically awarded PAM part 2. does it mean i also automatically pass the PAM part 1 already? dont have to sit for the exam anymore?

secondly, i'll most probably be heading to melb u for my degree after completing diploma in taylors. it says that students from taylors will be granted 2 years advanced standing. does it mean i'm guaranteed a spot there or...?

This post has been edited by xsaintx: Jan 13 2007, 04:24 AM

Part 1 and Part 2 are usually awarded together. You wont hav to sit for the portfolio reviews if you completed 3 years fully abroad.

i think you're pretty much granted a spot in that uni unless of cos that uni has a limit on its international students and you dun make their cut. Usually for Australian architecture programs, its usually layout in this format, a 3 year Bachelor of Science in Architectural Technology/something to that extent. Then you will study another 2 years for the Bachelor of Architecture degree. So its a 3+2 program. 2 years advanced standing means you will be placed in their 3rd year of the total 5 year architecture program. Means you have completed 2 years and have another 3 more years to go. You will take one year to complete that first degree and another 2 more for the B Arch degree.

Hope this clear things up.

Cheers!

ohh i get a clearer picture now. thanks!

a little correction:

unless otherwise stated, a Part 2 accredfited degree only awards u a part 2, never both. for example, UTM's 5 year (single) degree awards the student for Part 1 and 2 at the end of study. a 2 segment programmes (3+2 years) usually awards Part 1 for 1st degree, and Part 2 after 2nd degree.

u must check the programme awarded to u, and countercheck with LAM. no point in getting a Part 2 degree only to come back to malaysia and sit for Part 1 again.

thnks,azamiry!!
u just cleared my head about it..
the parts in archi.
really a useful info..

This post has been edited by *TeDucK*: Jan 15 2007, 05:45 AM

hrmm..guys.
since all here are really into archi course,
can anyone tell me the job market for postgraduate in archi course?
(if not specifically..generally would also help)
i mean..is there high demand for architects or other related to art and design.
is better for us to know right?
as not to be unemployed in da future..ehehe
thnks!!

much like doctors (general practitioner vs specialist), architects without postgraduate degrees are considered general practitioners of the profession. they are able to do just about every other thing other architects could do. architects with masters are almost (but not quite) considered as specialist in the area where he has done his masters.

architects could specialize into diverse fields of specialty. common specializations in malaysia are:

i. housing
ii. conservation and preservation
iii. history & theory
iv. social architecture
v. construction/building technology
vi. architecture education
vii. IT and CAD
etc.



part 2 architects are quite in demand right now. i'm not saying that they're hot stuff or sought after, but atleast 60% of graduates will be able to secure a permanent job within 6 months. within a year, i can safely say 90% will get a permanent job in any sector in the design related field (not necessarily architecture).

oh, arigato!!
that help me a lot!

ermm...i'm still waiting for my SPM result. I have a sense that i like architecture and think i get a lot of information regarding what architecture is about after reading the forum above. So, i would like to know what are the entry requirements ?

entry requirements are different based on University.

generally,
for architecture..subjects that are important in this course is math, science (physics)

some Universities such as UTM requires u to be able to draw.
Drawing skills is an advantage for u but not to be worried so much because we will basically learn drawing during the course. (will be using computer too)

hope i answered ur question, khsoch.

hope u make the right choice!!

Do check the Ministry of Higher Education website which will provide the basic requirements and also the individual requirement for each course for each university.

Guide posted up on main page here: http://www.lowyat.net/v2/jobs-and-career/b...-architect.html

If there are any changes you'd like, the author can PM me

well, after looking trough all the Uni offering architecture, i realize there arent much Uni that offers this course. is this by any chance effects ur opportunity in getting urself in archi course. well, think of competing with others to get u a spot in the Uni of ur course.

this what i realize..mayB i could be cleared about it by someone that knows more..
thnks!!

as justin and teduck have replied, the requirement are pretty basic and very much similar to other courses. although math and physics is NOT required, having scored on these subjects will definitely boost ur chances. remember, architecture is not only for science based students. we've found that taking only one breed of student does not encourage varieties.

if i were to generalize, science students tend to be all "logical and rational" while art students tend to be more "radical and pushing the envelope". architecture DEMANDS variety, and that applies to background, race, religion and virtually everything. when u sit for the interview, establish urself as an individual. dont go "i'm just another guy with nothing special" coz that's definitely NOT getting u in!

yes. schools of architecture in Malaysia is quite limited. in addition to that, each school only takes about 100 students per year (except UiTM who takes about 150 a year in 2 intakes). private colleges are increasing their sizes, but risk stretching the tutor:student ratio. as i may have already explained, the typical ratio of tutor:student in architecture education is 1:15. so if u want a bigger intake, malaysia has to produce a helluvalot of lecturers. and the profession DO pay more than teaching.

to answer ur question:

yes, the number significantly affects ur chances of getting in. currently average intake ratio is about 1:10. that's 1 student out of 10 candidates. however, private schools offer better chances than public schools.




btw: thanks admin. ur support is greatly appreciated!

Thank you for your point of view. I agree with you that architecture demands variety. I like maths, science, art, geography, and many more...and they are equally good and same for me. Thus, i hope architecture can be my good choice.

Hey there!

got a question..

for the architecture, we will be using computer as a tool to do designs, right?

well, what i was informed were photoshop and autocad.

any other softwares used for architecture?

yes, u will be using computers quite a lot, but not without basics though. softwares commonly used by students are:

vector graphics for drafting
i. autocad
ii. vectorworx
iii. archicad

vector editing for graphic design/composition
i. freehand
ii. illustrator
iii. coreldraw

3d modelling for visualization
i. autocad 3d
ii. sketchup
iii. 3dsmax

raster manipulation for image editing
i. photoshop
ii. photopaint
iii. painter

not many schools will teach these softwares. u have to take special subjects (additional to ur collection of credits) to learn about these softwares. overseas universities are even more unlikely to offer them. however, softwares like photoshop and sketchup arent that hard to learn by urself, especially when u learn to know, not learn for exams